2025 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by tl57:
The more I think about it, the more I love the idea of Vlad, Jr. 1 year, 14.5M. Toronto doesn't want to give him a new deal, give Toronto something that will interest them. Place Vlad at 1st base for the year, with hopefully provision for Eldrige taking over next year. Vlad blossoms, Giants get huge reward for a year and he gets paid. He doesn't, Giants are not attached to him beyond next year. Little risk, maybe high reward. Put Wade Jr. at DH, will spare his knees and keep him much fresher. With Wilmer backing both 1st and DH. Imagine the lineup of two table setters in Lee and Wade Jr. or Fitz and Adames, Vlad Jr, Chapman and Ramos batting 3-6. Fitz or Wade Jr. who doesn't bat 2nd, is 7th, Yaz 8th Bailey 9th. Not a bad lineup.

do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you want a single guy hitting bombs, we had that too. the all time home run leader. you may recall the strongest home run season of all time, it was our yard as the home yard. 37 at home and 36 away. so whether it's a single guy doing it or a team doing it, we've seen it folks. the yard is an excuse, but it's not the reason why we don't hit em. need good hitters.

That was good, you made me chuckle. You know there is a huge difference between A SINGLE GUY vs a single guy. It's like inserting Michael Jordan in his professional prime into NC college team and claim years later that a guy singlehandedly can cake walk into the NCAA basketball title because it had been done before.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

There is a rumor he is possibly available because Toronto doesn't want to pay him his going rate and they will lose him for nothing if they don't. Might as well try to entice them with something. Like I have said, if that would happen, put Wade Jr at DH. I believe JD Martinez may be washed now.

Originally posted by tl57:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
if you want a single guy hitting bombs, we had that too. the all time home run leader. you may recall the strongest home run season of all time, it was our yard as the home yard. 37 at home and 36 away. so whether it's a single guy doing it or a team doing it, we've seen it folks. the yard is an excuse, but it's not the reason why we don't hit em. need good hitters.

That was good, you made me chuckle. You know there is a huge difference between A SINGLE GUY vs a single guy. It's like inserting Michael Jordan in his professional prime into NC college team and claim years later that a guy singlehandedly can cake walk into the NCAA basketball title because it had been done before.

i just don't get the arguments. ppl acting like willy hit 30 hrs so now he's maybe get 20. yeah, don't think so. if he hits 20 it's cuz he's having a down year compared to last. not the park. MLB was played a long time, and it just so happens the all time best HR season was here, we also led the league in homers recently. that flies in the face of the park being a limiting factor. it isn't. that's more in the mind, than it is in reality.

Originally posted by tl57:
There is a rumor he is possibly available because Toronto doesn't want to pay him his going rate and they will lose him for nothing if they don't. Might as well try to entice them with something. Like I have said, if that would happen, put Wade Jr at DH. I believe JD Martinez may be washed now.

like billy beane would say, good, that means he's affordable.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tl57:
The more I think about it, the more I love the idea of Vlad, Jr. 1 year, 14.5M. Toronto doesn't want to give him a new deal, give Toronto something that will interest them. Place Vlad at 1st base for the year, with hopefully provision for Eldrige taking over next year. Vlad blossoms, Giants get huge reward for a year and he gets paid. He doesn't, Giants are not attached to him beyond next year. Little risk, maybe high reward. Put Wade Jr. at DH, will spare his knees and keep him much fresher. With Wilmer backing both 1st and DH. Imagine the lineup of two table setters in Lee and Wade Jr. or Fitz and Adames, Vlad Jr, Chapman and Ramos batting 3-6. Fitz or Wade Jr. who doesn't bat 2nd, is 7th, Yaz 8th Bailey 9th. Not a bad lineup.

do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

JD Martinez? Hell no.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tl57:
The more I think about it, the more I love the idea of Vlad, Jr. 1 year, 14.5M. Toronto doesn't want to give him a new deal, give Toronto something that will interest them. Place Vlad at 1st base for the year, with hopefully provision for Eldrige taking over next year. Vlad blossoms, Giants get huge reward for a year and he gets paid. He doesn't, Giants are not attached to him beyond next year. Little risk, maybe high reward. Put Wade Jr. at DH, will spare his knees and keep him much fresher. With Wilmer backing both 1st and DH. Imagine the lineup of two table setters in Lee and Wade Jr. or Fitz and Adames, Vlad Jr, Chapman and Ramos batting 3-6. Fitz or Wade Jr. who doesn't bat 2nd, is 7th, Yaz 8th Bailey 9th. Not a bad lineup.

do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

JD Martinez? Hell no.

if you guys are against it i like it. i was the only one in on chapman. he got mvp votes and buster signed him as our cornerstone

Originally posted by tl57:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

There is a rumor he is possibly available because Toronto doesn't want to pay him his going rate and they will lose him for nothing if they don't. Might as well try to entice them with something. Like I have said, if that would happen, put Wade Jr at DH. I believe JD Martinez may be washed now.

Id be really curious what you would offer Toronto for a 1 year rental of Vlad before he tests free agency. It better be a lot because Toronto would have a lot of teams making offers if they made it known he was on the block

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tl57:
The more I think about it, the more I love the idea of Vlad, Jr. 1 year, 14.5M. Toronto doesn't want to give him a new deal, give Toronto something that will interest them. Place Vlad at 1st base for the year, with hopefully provision for Eldrige taking over next year. Vlad blossoms, Giants get huge reward for a year and he gets paid. He doesn't, Giants are not attached to him beyond next year. Little risk, maybe high reward. Put Wade Jr. at DH, will spare his knees and keep him much fresher. With Wilmer backing both 1st and DH. Imagine the lineup of two table setters in Lee and Wade Jr. or Fitz and Adames, Vlad Jr, Chapman and Ramos batting 3-6. Fitz or Wade Jr. who doesn't bat 2nd, is 7th, Yaz 8th Bailey 9th. Not a bad lineup.

do we think he's getting traded? my wishlist would be pitching and we need to answer the DH question. JD Martinez comes to mind

JD Martinez? Hell no.

if you guys are against it i like it. i was the only one in on chapman. he got mvp votes and buster signed him as our cornerstone

Lol. If you actually watched JD hit last year you would know he isnt worth signing. Stop living in the past and think about JD in 2025. There was little interest in him last year before the Mets signed him. There will be even less interest this year

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i just don't get the arguments. ppl acting like willy hit 30 hrs so now he's maybe get 20. yeah, don't think so. if he hits 20 it's cuz he's having a down year compared to last. not the park. MLB was played a long time, and it just so happens the all time best HR season was here, we also led the league in homers recently. that flies in the face of the park being a limiting factor. it isn't. that's more in the mind, than it is in reality.

I am not saying you can't hit homeruns at AT&T. Yes, there are several circumstances going into that argument beyond just the park and one can have an unusually exceptional year. However, historically and as the norm, that is the perception and mostly reality. Whole bunch of players said that over many years, so are the whole bunch of executives and so on. Do you think all of that is bull, imagined or mind twisting? The park was speciously built with the premium on attendance in mind to help pay for it, and as the coincidental result, the premium on pitching and D. Having one player who could not have been bothered with its dimensions had only help in having advantage over sluggers playing in the yards where everything gone out. How many homeruns had Bonds and other Giants players lost themselves here. Why would announcers constantly say in games this shot would have been out in any other park? As a matter of fact, if the Giants ownership group were not "worrying" about paying 20M loan interest on the park and put a few decent players around Kent, Bonds and Burks row, and a bit better pitching staff, the Giants would have won several more titles before 2010. Remember, since Bonds hung them up, the Giants had decreased the park dimensions already for their own good.

Some good news for Lee.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Lol. If you actually watched JD hit last year you would know he isnt worth signing. Stop living in the past and think about JD in 2025. There was little interest in him last year before the Mets signed him. There will be even less interest this year

good, less interest means the cost goes down. he just needs 120 games or so as DH and he can impact the game heart of the order. i'm not hung up on him, it can be another DH also. in a world where the contracts are insane you look for value where you can find it. for example soler was our last get, he's pretty one dimensional and we paid him a lot and flipped him. didn't really work out. i'd try again with a new DH.

Originally posted by tl57:
I am not saying you can't hit homeruns at AT&T. Yes, there are several circumstances going into that argument beyond just the park and one can have an unusually exceptional year. However, historically and as the norm, that is the perception and mostly reality. Whole bunch of players said that over many years, so are the whole bunch of executives and so on. Do you think all of that is bull, imagined or mind twisting? The park was speciously built with the premium on attendance in mind to help pay for it, and as the coincidental result, the premium on pitching and D. Having one player who could not have been bothered with its dimensions had only help in having advantage over sluggers playing in the yards where everything gone out. How many homeruns had Bonds and other Giants players lost themselves here. Why would announcers constantly say in games this shot would have been out in any other park? As a matter of fact, if the Giants ownership group were not "worrying" about paying 20M loan interest on the park and put a few decent players around Kent, Bonds and Burks row, and a bit better pitching staff, the Giants would have won several more titles before 2010. Remember, since Bonds hung them up, the Giants had decreased the park dimensions already for their own good.

i think it's the best park out there. i hope they make it a forever park like fenway or wrigley or what have you. i think i made my point on it. it's a pitchers park but i think it's overblown on here. when they say out in all other parks, that's usually a ball hit to triples alley. i think triples alley is very cool. it's a unique dimension which brings triples back into the game. they are pretty rare. i like how all the parks can play differently. ours is certainly unique and not for the sake of being unique, it's just a cool park, complete with splash hit homers. beautiful sight lines all over.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
What was the highest homer count by a player? It was under 30.

having a bunch of people capable of hitting 15-20 isn't the same as a guy hitting 30-40.

silly take given the proven numbers lol

if you want a single guy hitting bombs, we had that too. the all time home run leader. you may recall the strongest home run season of all time, it was our yard as the home yard. 37 at home and 36 away. so whether it's a single guy doing it or a team doing it, we've seen it folks. the yard is an excuse, but it's not the reason why we don't hit em. need good hitters.

Lmao that's the point. It's been been 20 years since. Every club has done it twice. If you can't look at the data and see it's a factor you're crazy. You think 20 years since the last guy is an accident? Lmao.

Barry in 2005. He's also one of the top 5 players of all time.

use your head lmao

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Lmao that's the point. It's been been 20 years since. Every club has done it twice. If you can't look at the data and see it's a factor you're crazy. You think 20 years since the last guy is an accident? Lmao.

Barry in 2005. He's also one of the top 5 players of all time.

use your head lmao

i made my point on it. we led the league recently with a group of jokers. so i don't view it as some impossible park to hit it out, nor do i chop guys numbers in half as a expectation due to park.