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2025 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Chapman has seen 55% of pitches in the strike zone. The highest rate. He's also in the top 10 worst hitters in baseball in pitches down the middle. And he has a low swing and miss rate.

Pitchers aren't scare of him, they challenge him, and based on the numbers, they usually win. But hey he plays a lot.
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Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Game on the line with a man on 3rd and of course Chapman fails. 0-4

I'm not about to start complaining about Chapman. He's 2nd on the team in RBI and HRs. He's played great defense after an early lapse. He's played in 93 of the Giants 96 games which is 11 more than the next highest. At least he's playing every day instead of needing a day off for some minor perceived injury. I know it's frustrating when a player leaves runners in scoring position but it's not like he's the only one that does it. Until recently Soler was making a career out of doing that.

Ok, you celebrate hitting .237 and I'll pass on that. You need to look up the % of balls he gets in the strike zone. Leads the majors because pitchers aren't scared of Chapman.

also. Soler had 298 ABs to Chapman's 354 and almost the same overall numbers. Also Chapman has 10 errors and he had 12 in all of 2023. Maybe you are seeing what you want to see.

Great but Chapman still has played more games and has been a very good defensive player. Being available in the era when every little ache and pain is cause for a day off is a big deal. I know he strikes out a lot but he's also hitting HRs and driving in runs. I'm not celebrating .237 but he's 10th in OPS among all 3rd basemen. 12th in HRs. 4th in walks. You're right that .237 isn't great but there are only 12 players in the majors hitting over .300. That's pathetic but that's the big leagues now. I can remember when you never saw players with BAs lower than .220 in the majors. Now we see it all the time. Chapman's career BA is .240 so he's right about where we would expect him to be. He was signed to solidify 3rd base and provide some power. He's done what was expected of him.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Chapman has seen 55% of pitches in the strike zone. The highest rate. He's also in the top 10 worst hitters in baseball in pitches down the middle. And he has a low swing and miss rate.

Pitchers aren't scare of him, they challenge him, and based on the numbers, they usually win. But hey he plays a lot.

Does anyone on the Giants scare pitchers? Maybe Ramos . This isn't a scary lineup.Who did you think the Giants were getting when they signed Chapman. He's doing about what he was expected to do at the plate and in the field.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Chapman has seen 55% of pitches in the strike zone. The highest rate. He's also in the top 10 worst hitters in baseball in pitches down the middle. And he has a low swing and miss rate.

Pitchers aren't scare of him, they challenge him, and based on the numbers, they usually win. But hey he plays a lot.

Does anyone on the Giants scare pitchers? Maybe Ramos . This isn't a scary lineup.Who did you think the Giants were getting when they signed Chapman. He's doing about what he was expected to do at the plate and in the field.

That is the whole league. Not the giants. And your stats above (12th in this and that) are middle of the pack.

chapman is who we thought he was in the offseason. A very average hitting player who plays good defense. But he's also made a lot of errors. He strikes out way too much. And he's doing that while seeing the most strikes.

I like his defense and how he runs the bases, but you thinking hes above complaining is laughable.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Chapman has seen 55% of pitches in the strike zone. The highest rate. He's also in the top 10 worst hitters in baseball in pitches down the middle. And he has a low swing and miss rate.

Pitchers aren't scare of him, they challenge him, and based on the numbers, they usually win. But hey he plays a lot.

Does anyone on the Giants scare pitchers? Maybe Ramos . This isn't a scary lineup.Who did you think the Giants were getting when they signed Chapman. He's doing about what he was expected to do at the plate and in the field.

That is the whole league. Not the giants. And your stats above (12th in this and that) are middle of the pack.

chapman is who we thought he was in the offseason. A very average hitting player who plays good defense. But he's also made a lot of errors. He strikes out way too much. And he's doing that while seeing the most strikes.

I like his defense and how he runs the bases, but you thinking hes above complaining is laughable.

I'm more inclined to complain about the team than any individual player. This is a team that's built to play .500 ball and maybe luck into the wildcard. Not much else. Players with injury history. Players that are under achievers. If they had someone better at 3rd base they would be using him. Same at 1st, 2nd and SS. Ramos is having a good year but he's not a true center fielder. He's there because Lee got hurt. Only Bailey, Chapman, Conforto and Yaz are playing in their proper positions. Yaz has been struggling all year to stay healthy and hit consistently. Conforto has also been injured a lot.

This is a team that is average at best because it's built with average players. They seem incapable of going on a long winning streak. The front office has been operating on this idea that they can get some average players to have above average years like they did when they won 107 games.That was a freak year. Not likely to happen again.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Jul 14, 2024 at 9:53 AM ]
I'm not replying to this anymore. They didn't sign Chapman and pay him $18 million a year to be average. Outside Conforto, who is obviously not performing to his pay, you just compared Chapman to people who make 1/4 or what he makes. Doesn't even make sense.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
I'm not replying to this anymore. They didn't sign Chapman and pay him $18 million a year to be average. Outside Conforto, who is obviously not performing to his pay, you just compared Chapman to people who make 1/4 or what he makes. Doesn't even make sense.

I don't compare players based on their salary. That's as more a front office issue than anything. That reinforces what I said at the end of that comment. They sign players and overpay them and expect them to over perform. Chapman is doing what he always has. He's a career .240 hitter. Paying a player big money doesn't make him play better. It often works the opposite way. Did Farhan think Chapman was going to come into Oracle which is a hard place to hit HRs and suddenly hit 40 and bat .275? That's why I can't complain about Chapman or any of the players for that matter. Most of them are doing about what we can expect. Other than Flores who is way off his numbers from last season. 80 points under last year and 55 under his career average.That's a serious drop.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on Jul 14, 2024 at 2:01 PM ]
Yeah no way we get Soto this offseason.
MLB Draft today. Giants lost their 2nd rd picks because of the Snell and Chapman signings but have the 13th pick in rd 1. Hoping they get a college bat like Nick Hurtz, James Tibbs, or Christian Moore. Seems, however, that Cam Caminiti, high school pitcher out of Arizona, is the prospect they have been closely associated with.
Second start in a row he's looked good but Snell is tossing the best game a giants pitcher has had all year. A gem.
Also, Chapman and Soler 0-4 each. Don't criticize though. Chapman on the post game will probably say he's a .240 hitter what did you expect.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Second start in a row he's looked good but Snell is tossing the best game a giants pitcher has had all year. A gem.

And Doval just blew the save.
  • tl57
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I had a feeling that f Doval is going to blow the game. He'd been mediocre s**t this year. Has gotten fat too big and too fast and that is the result.
[ Edited by tl57 on Jul 14, 2024 at 3:20 PM ]
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Second start in a row he's looked good but Snell is tossing the best game a giants pitcher has had all year. A gem.

Snell good. Doval bad again.
Fans seem to be giving Doval lots of slack. When Casilla had a rough stretch they were merciless.
What's the issue with Dovals contract? I heard he wanted an extension early?
And Doval wants to get paid? Not if you keep blowing games like that.
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