2025 San Francisco Giants Season Thread

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still have hopes for Luciano at some point but he has trouble staying healthy. He can't get ny extended playing time .

I think he's a bust.

LOL. He's 22.

Exactly. Calling a kid a bust at his age is just dumb. Now if he gets to 25 and still cant improve then maybe.

crazy that bart is 27 now

Originally posted by Zachary:
crazy that bart is 27 now

Not really, he was college player. I'm more interested in what they'll get for him, isn't he out of options?

Originally posted by FaTaL:

Originally posted by Zachary:
crazy that bart is 27 now

Not really, he was college player. I'm more interested in what they'll get for him, isn't he out of options?

its crazy to me man.

Jefferies having a good start today with three scoreless innings. Also, there's this for the starting rotation:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Jefferies having a good start today with three scoreless innings. Also, there's this for the starting rotation:

Alex Cobb threw 27 pitches (18 strikes) in a minor league game today and struck out five in two hitless innings. At this rate, the guy might be ready for the opening day roster 👀

— Alex Pavlovic (@PavlovicNBCS) March 16, 2024

They dont need to rush. I'm tired of seeing half a starting rotation because of injuries.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Jefferies having a good start today with three scoreless innings. Also, there's this for the starting rotation:

Alex Cobb threw 27 pitches (18 strikes) in a minor league game today and struck out five in two hitless innings. At this rate, the guy might be ready for the opening day roster 👀

— Alex Pavlovic (@PavlovicNBCS) March 16, 2024

They dont need to rush. I'm tired of seeing half a starting rotation because of injuries.

I wonder when MLB is going to realize that babying pitchers and not letting them extend their innings isn't saving them from injury. There was a time when most of the starters would throw one full game by the end of spring training. They gradually built arm strength and it worked. It was common to go 7,8 or 9 innings every time out. Now they train them to go 5. It was seven, then six and now five. I heard Logan Webb talking about building arm strength like it was some revolutionary idea.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder when MLB is going to realize that babying pitchers and not letting them extend their innings isn't saving them from injury. There was a time when most of the starters would throw one full game by the end of spring training. They gradually built arm strength and it worked. It was common to go 7,8 or 9 innings every time out. Now they train them to go 5. It was seven, then six and now five. I heard Logan Webb talking about building arm strength like it was some revolutionary idea.

I think a big difference was decades ago baseball was just another sport for athletes growing up. You played football, basketball, baseball, or maybe even boring ass soccer. Kids hit high school, then college and the minors and became workhorses that would throw 100+ pitches each time out.

but kids now a days pretty much play baseball all year long between teams, all star and traveling teams. And this starts at around 10-13 years old. In high school my kid played 130 games in one season between high school, the high school winter team, and travel ball. They are putting way too much strain on kids arms throwing that many innings for all those years. Then they hit the bigs and have arm issues.

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder when MLB is going to realize that babying pitchers and not letting them extend their innings isn't saving them from injury. There was a time when most of the starters would throw one full game by the end of spring training. They gradually built arm strength and it worked. It was common to go 7,8 or 9 innings every time out. Now they train them to go 5. It was seven, then six and now five. I heard Logan Webb talking about building arm strength like it was some revolutionary idea.

I think a big difference was decades ago baseball was just another sport for athletes growing up. You played football, basketball, baseball, or maybe even boring ass soccer. Kids hit high school, then college and the minors and became workhorses that would throw 100+ pitches each time out.

but kids now a days pretty much play baseball all year long between teams, all star and traveling teams. And this starts at around 10-13 years old. In high school my kid played 130 games in one season between high school, the high school winter team, and travel ball. They are putting way too much strain on kids arms throwing that many innings for all those years. Then they hit the bigs and have arm issues.

Nowadays kids are also being bred for throwing hard. It used to be good enough to throw 92 mph, but now unless you know how to work the zone 92 isn't fooling anyone. Its just not as sustainable to be hitting high 90's over the long run. Most guys need to reduce innings to maintain that velocity.

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Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by Rubberneck36:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I wonder when MLB is going to realize that babying pitchers and not letting them extend their innings isn't saving them from injury. There was a time when most of the starters would throw one full game by the end of spring training. They gradually built arm strength and it worked. It was common to go 7,8 or 9 innings every time out. Now they train them to go 5. It was seven, then six and now five. I heard Logan Webb talking about building arm strength like it was some revolutionary idea.

I think a big difference was decades ago baseball was just another sport for athletes growing up. You played football, basketball, baseball, or maybe even boring ass soccer. Kids hit high school, then college and the minors and became workhorses that would throw 100+ pitches each time out.

but kids now a days pretty much play baseball all year long between teams, all star and traveling teams. And this starts at around 10-13 years old. In high school my kid played 130 games in one season between high school, the high school winter team, and travel ball. They are putting way too much strain on kids arms throwing that many innings for all those years. Then they hit the bigs and have arm issues.

Nowadays kids are also being bred for throwing hard. It used to be good enough to throw 92 mph, but now unless you know how to work the zone 92 isn't fooling anyone. Its just not as sustainable to be hitting high 90's over the long run. Most guys need to reduce innings to maintain that velocity.

Whatever the reasons it isn't working. Pitchers seem to have far more arm issues than they used to. Is it good to goout and throw as hard as you can for 3 innings? It produces more strikeouts but that's not necessarily good for the game. Strikeouts and walks don't provide much action for the fans.

Pitchers often over use the slider and that takes a toll on the arm more than throwing hard. The speed is over exaggerated because it gets attention. The fact is pitchers aren't throwing that much faster. They use a different way to measure speed that adds 3-4 MPH to the speed reading. I agree that they're throwing their max more often since they aren't being asked to go 7 innings or more very often.

Renel Brooks-Moon will no longer be the PA announcer. I don't know if they have named a new one yet. No big deal if you don't go to games but fans get used to the voice at the ballpark.

Giants officially parting ways with Renel Brooks-Moon as PA announcer. Apparently they couldn't agree on a new contract, and she preferred to retire.

Originally posted by Niners99:
Giants officially parting ways with Renel Brooks-Moon as PA announcer. Apparently they couldn't agree on a new contract, and she preferred to retire.

They should replace her with J B Smoove. For those that don't know him he's the guy that shares the home with Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm. That would add some entertainment to the games.

thats crazy. She had a good run and saw some championships

Originally posted by Zachary:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Garce:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I still have hopes for Luciano at some point but he has trouble staying healthy. He can't get ny extended playing time .

I think he's a bust.

LOL. He's 22.

Exactly. Calling a kid a bust at his age is just dumb. Now if he gets to 25 and still cant improve then maybe.

crazy that bart is 27 now

Show me the signs that he's going to be good besides his age.