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***2019-2020 NBA REGULAR SEASON THREAD***

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Originally posted by 49erWill:
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[ Edited by TheSixthRing on Dec 10, 2019 at 9:48 PM ]
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol NBA ratings are at an all time low!?? Damn. How about we clean up the traveling mess then we can get back to the basics of this game? Idk the talent sure has dropped off IMO. Too many youngsters coming into the league that are far from ready.

Man imagine the NBA in say 5 years?? Wow probably will be a full on s**tshow

They never learned how to play the game. Just watching the best scorer in the game (Harden) dribble and eat the clock while the other 4 guys are standing still is what the young guys see and aspire to. No wonder ratings are down. I can't see the game going back to a team game only one on one and score to get the MAX.

Agreed, this game is trending in the wrong direction and fast. Nobody can fkn shoot the ball anymore, there's no team concept either. Sad.
I think one reason ratings are way down is that having 2 superstars get in cahoots to meet up in a coastal town, is just not that interesting for the league as a whole.
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol NBA ratings are at an all time low!?? Damn. How about we clean up the traveling mess then we can get back to the basics of this game? Idk the talent sure has dropped off IMO. Too many youngsters coming into the league that are far from ready.

Man imagine the NBA in say 5 years?? Wow probably will be a full on s**tshow

They never learned how to play the game. Just watching the best scorer in the game (Harden) dribble and eat the clock while the other 4 guys are standing still is what the young guys see and aspire to. No wonder ratings are down. I can't see the game going back to a team game only one on one and score to get the MAX.

Agreed, this game is trending in the wrong direction and fast. Nobody can fkn shoot the ball anymore, there's no team concept either. Sad.

100% this plus the NBA are missing the Warriors super team. Hate it all you want but that super team is exciting every time they visit an arena it's always sold out.

It would had been great if the Warriors and KD stayed together versus Lebron and the Lakers that will always be a must see TV. Let's be real Lakers number one rivals are the Clippers and their superstar Kawhi is boring asf.
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol NBA ratings are at an all time low!?? Damn. How about we clean up the traveling mess then we can get back to the basics of this game? Idk the talent sure has dropped off IMO. Too many youngsters coming into the league that are far from ready.

Man imagine the NBA in say 5 years?? Wow probably will be a full on s**tshow

They never learned how to play the game. Just watching the best scorer in the game (Harden) dribble and eat the clock while the other 4 guys are standing still is what the young guys see and aspire to. No wonder ratings are down. I can't see the game going back to a team game only one on one and score to get the MAX.

Agreed, this game is trending in the wrong direction and fast. Nobody can fkn shoot the ball anymore, there's no team concept either. Sad.

What are you talking about lol. Everybody in the NBA can shoot now, even Cs are shooting. This made no sense.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol NBA ratings are at an all time low!?? Damn. How about we clean up the traveling mess then we can get back to the basics of this game? Idk the talent sure has dropped off IMO. Too many youngsters coming into the league that are far from ready.

Man imagine the NBA in say 5 years?? Wow probably will be a full on s**tshow

They never learned how to play the game. Just watching the best scorer in the game (Harden) dribble and eat the clock while the other 4 guys are standing still is what the young guys see and aspire to. No wonder ratings are down. I can't see the game going back to a team game only one on one and score to get the MAX.

Agreed, this game is trending in the wrong direction and fast. Nobody can fkn shoot the ball anymore, there's no team concept either. Sad.

What are you talking about lol. Everybody in the NBA can shoot now, even Cs are shooting. This made no sense.

Ya wth is going on in here. Just because Harden is the worst watch in maybe the history of stars doesnt mean the NBA is lacking in talent. Talent has never been higher....The warriors dynasty had the most fluid and fundamentally dialed in offense we have seen. Position 1-5 can shoot and score many ways on most teams. Just because 1 team who haven't made the finals even with insane amounts of talent don't play the right way doesnt mean the NBA is lacking wow
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol NBA ratings are at an all time low!?? Damn. How about we clean up the traveling mess then we can get back to the basics of this game? Idk the talent sure has dropped off IMO. Too many youngsters coming into the league that are far from ready.

Man imagine the NBA in say 5 years?? Wow probably will be a full on s**tshow

They never learned how to play the game. Just watching the best scorer in the game (Harden) dribble and eat the clock while the other 4 guys are standing still is what the young guys see and aspire to. No wonder ratings are down. I can't see the game going back to a team game only one on one and score to get the MAX.

Agreed, this game is trending in the wrong direction and fast. Nobody can fkn shoot the ball anymore, there's no team concept either. Sad.

What are you talking about lol. Everybody in the NBA can shoot now, even Cs are shooting. This made no sense.

Ya wth is going on in here. Just because Harden is the worst watch in maybe the history of stars doesnt mean the NBA is lacking in talent. Talent has never been higher....The warriors dynasty had the most fluid and fundamentally dialed in offense we have seen. Position 1-5 can shoot and score many ways on most teams. Just because 1 team who haven't made the finals even with insane amounts of talent don't play the right way doesnt mean the NBA is lacking wow

Hmm so then why are the ratings at an all time low? NBA merchandise sales down? Most of the NBA fans outside of CA hate the dubs.
Seriously we were just talking about this at our coaches meeting. Shooting % has been going down all across the league.
Talent is out there sure but it is sloppy as hell and a lot of talented players are not getting developed when they jump after 1 yr. College was once used to develop players. Hell thats long dead and gone. There use to be a lot of talent In the NBA drafts. That's not so much the case anymore.

Sorry I disagree with your statement that talent has never been higher? No way is it higher now when say Kobe was a rook. Man now that was a talented league or even when James came into the mix. Talent was higher then than it is now.
[ Edited by wailers15 on Dec 11, 2019 at 12:24 PM ]
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol NBA ratings are at an all time low!?? Damn. How about we clean up the traveling mess then we can get back to the basics of this game? Idk the talent sure has dropped off IMO. Too many youngsters coming into the league that are far from ready.

Man imagine the NBA in say 5 years?? Wow probably will be a full on s**tshow

They never learned how to play the game. Just watching the best scorer in the game (Harden) dribble and eat the clock while the other 4 guys are standing still is what the young guys see and aspire to. No wonder ratings are down. I can't see the game going back to a team game only one on one and score to get the MAX.

Agreed, this game is trending in the wrong direction and fast. Nobody can fkn shoot the ball anymore, there's no team concept either. Sad.

What are you talking about lol. Everybody in the NBA can shoot now, even Cs are shooting. This made no sense.

Ya wth is going on in here. Just because Harden is the worst watch in maybe the history of stars doesnt mean the NBA is lacking in talent. Talent has never been higher....The warriors dynasty had the most fluid and fundamentally dialed in offense we have seen. Position 1-5 can shoot and score many ways on most teams. Just because 1 team who haven't made the finals even with insane amounts of talent don't play the right way doesnt mean the NBA is lacking wow

Hmm so then why are the ratings at an all time low? NBA merchandise sales down? Most of the NBA fans outside of CA hate the dubs.
Seriously we were just talking about this at our coaches meeting. Shooting % has been going down all across the league.
Talent is out there sure but it is sloppy as hell and a lot of talented players are not getting developed when they jump after 1 yr. College was once used to develop players. Hell thats long dead and gone. There use to be a lot of talent In the NBA drafts. That's not so much the case anymore.

Sorry I disagree with your statement that talent has never been higher? No way is it higher now when say Kobe was a rook. Man now that was a talented league or even when James came into the mix. Talent was higher then than it is now.

First off, ratings are not an all time low, at least modern nba, that would be the 2000s, you had about 4 finlas that drew 5s and 6s. Compare that to the last 4 or 5 finals those numbers have doubled. And if you take into account how many people have ditched cable the past 4 or 5 years, those ratings are even higher.

As far as merch sales, im not sure how you can say that lol. China alone has brought in hundreds of extra millions. If the NBA was doing so bad financially and such bad ratings like you say, how are they able to pay players 40 mil a year and owners still make a lot of money?

And even if shooting % is down, which ill take your word for it, its bc everybody is also shooting 3s. Guys like KAT or Embiid would be shooting 60% if they weren't also taking 3s, but that doesnt mean players cant shoot lol, they are shooting better than ever before and theres no disputing that.

Lastly, you are right about undeveloped talent coming in from college. But once again, that doesnt mean the talent is worse. Yes it takes longer to develop a guy like Giannis or Siakim bc they dont play 4 years in college, but once they develop they are amazing players.

Im sorry, but besides Pippen, there were no 6ft 10 players who could defend 1 through 5, vision of a PG, shoot 3s, ball handling, etc. You have a bunch of guys who can do that now. 90s didnt have players like that, and 2000s had Odom and AK47 who kinda resembled guys like Durant, Bron, Giannis, Simmons, Siakim, etc. You have Cs like AD, Embiid, KAT, who can ball handle, pass, shoot, defend, who was doing that in the 90s or even 2000s? Plus, besides the Knicks and Magic every team has either a legit all star on their team or young players with a lot of upside like Luka, Trey, Ingram, Tatum, and many more.

If the talent was sooo much better in 90s, than 1 player wouldn't have dominated the league and won championships at will.
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Plus, besides the Knicks and Magic every team has either a legit all star on their team or young players with a lot of upside like Luka, Trey, Ingram, Tatum, and many more.

Shots fired. lol
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by DynastyChile:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Lol NBA ratings are at an all time low!?? Damn. How about we clean up the traveling mess then we can get back to the basics of this game? Idk the talent sure has dropped off IMO. Too many youngsters coming into the league that are far from ready.

Man imagine the NBA in say 5 years?? Wow probably will be a full on s**tshow

They never learned how to play the game. Just watching the best scorer in the game (Harden) dribble and eat the clock while the other 4 guys are standing still is what the young guys see and aspire to. No wonder ratings are down. I can't see the game going back to a team game only one on one and score to get the MAX.

Agreed, this game is trending in the wrong direction and fast. Nobody can fkn shoot the ball anymore, there's no team concept either. Sad.

What are you talking about lol. Everybody in the NBA can shoot now, even Cs are shooting. This made no sense.

Ya wth is going on in here. Just because Harden is the worst watch in maybe the history of stars doesnt mean the NBA is lacking in talent. Talent has never been higher....The warriors dynasty had the most fluid and fundamentally dialed in offense we have seen. Position 1-5 can shoot and score many ways on most teams. Just because 1 team who haven't made the finals even with insane amounts of talent don't play the right way doesnt mean the NBA is lacking wow

Hmm so then why are the ratings at an all time low? NBA merchandise sales down? Most of the NBA fans outside of CA hate the dubs.
Seriously we were just talking about this at our coaches meeting. Shooting % has been going down all across the league.
Talent is out there sure but it is sloppy as hell and a lot of talented players are not getting developed when they jump after 1 yr. College was once used to develop players. Hell thats long dead and gone. There use to be a lot of talent In the NBA drafts. That's not so much the case anymore.

Sorry I disagree with your statement that talent has never been higher? No way is it higher now when say Kobe was a rook. Man now that was a talented league or even when James came into the mix. Talent was higher then than it is now.

First off, ratings are not an all time low, at least modern nba, that would be the 2000s, you had about 4 finlas that drew 5s and 6s. Compare that to the last 4 or 5 finals those numbers have doubled. And if you take into account how many people have ditched cable the past 4 or 5 years, those ratings are even higher.

As far as merch sales, im not sure how you can say that lol. China alone has brought in hundreds of extra millions. If the NBA was doing so bad financially and such bad ratings like you say, how are they able to pay players 40 mil a year and owners still make a lot of money?

And even if shooting % is down, which ill take your word for it, its bc everybody is also shooting 3s. Guys like KAT or Embiid would be shooting 60% if they weren't also taking 3s, but that doesnt mean players cant shoot lol, they are shooting better than ever before and theres no disputing that.

Lastly, you are right about undeveloped talent coming in from college. But once again, that doesnt mean the talent is worse. Yes it takes longer to develop a guy like Giannis or Siakim bc they dont play 4 years in college, but once they develop they are amazing players.

Im sorry, but besides Pippen, there were no 6ft 10 players who could defend 1 through 5, vision of a PG, shoot 3s, ball handling, etc. You have a bunch of guys who can do that now. 90s didnt have players like that, and 2000s had Odom and AK47 who kinda resembled guys like Durant, Bron, Giannis, Simmons, Siakim, etc. You have Cs like AD, Embiid, KAT, who can ball handle, pass, shoot, defend, who was doing that in the 90s or even 2000s? Plus, besides the Knicks and Magic every team has either a legit all star on their team or young players with a lot of upside like Luka, Trey, Ingram, Tatum, and many more.

If the talent was sooo much better in 90s, than 1 player wouldn't have dominated the league and won championships at will.

Facts are facts. ratings and sales Merch. are at an all time low year to date for the NBA. It's been in the news and Colin Cowherd and Rome were just talking on it.
Originally posted by wailers15:
Facts are facts. ratings and sales Merch. are at an all time low year to date for the NBA. It's been in the news and Colin Cowherd and Rome were just talking on it.

Merch sales are lower this year than the past 10 years bc of what happened with China, thats the fact. Im not sure how you can ignore that. Ratings its a mix of whos playing who, no more GS, and they always drew big ratings, and things such as less ppl keeping cable. Im sure part of it is less interest, but not as big as you make it.

Anyways, you said its all time low, im sure if you keep moving the goal posts you'll be right.
[ Edited by TheGore49er on Dec 11, 2019 at 3:16 PM ]
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Plus, besides the Knicks and Magic every team has either a legit all star on their team or young players with a lot of upside like Luka, Trey, Ingram, Tatum, and many more.

Shots fired. lol

Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Originally posted by wailers15:
Facts are facts. ratings and sales Merch. are at an all time low year to date for the NBA. It's been in the news and Colin Cowherd and Rome were just talking on it.

Merch sales are lower this year than the past 10 years bc of what happened with China, thats the fact. Im not sure how you can ignore that. Ratings its a mix of whos playing who, no more GS, and they always drew big ratings, and things such as less ppl keeping cable. Im sure part of it is less interest, but not as big as you make it.

Anyways, you said its all time low, im sure if you keep moving the goal posts you'll be right.

laces out Dan!
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by TheGore49er:
Plus, besides the Knicks and Magic every team has either a legit all star on their team or young players with a lot of upside like Luka, Trey, Ingram, Tatum, and many more.

Shots fired. lol


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