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Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by Viperboy:
A Goalie huh, didn't see that coming.
not completely sold on Askirov

I don't think ravenburger will be NHL ready next year, while Askarov will be.

if you think back to when we started this run, we had Nabokov and Kippersuff, then Toskala. We traded them. This is some insurance if Askarov doesn't work out or prices himself out of our range, especially if we have to pay our skaters.

not a bad player or fit, but with defensive players on board, you'd expect one of them first.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/san-jose-sharks/latest-news/san-jose-sharks-select-joshua-ravensbergen-with-the-30th-pick-in-the-2025-nhl-draft
The Sharks aren't good enough yet to do anything but go best player available. From what I read, most expected the kid to have been selected before 30 and he was the top ranked guy remaining. Seems like Grier is off to a great draft again.

He wasn't necessarily the top remaining guy but he was the top rated goalie overall and the Sharks did need another goalie to develop and he has the potential to be incredible on what right now is a very offense driven team. Also the Sharks prospect pool is VERY offense laden too and their goalies are very weak. There is really very little to criticize in the pick.

I wouldn't be surprised if Grier traded some of that high end offensive talent for some defense. But I'd still like the next pick to be a defenseman. Dickinson and Mukhamadullin are easily their top two defensive prospects and both are lefties, so maybe they'll for for a righty here? And that said Dickinson is a very offensive defenseman. There are a lot of defenders in the program but only 2 that are good enough to have clear NHL futures right now.

Fiddler is a defense first righty so he might be the pick though I slightly prefer Simon Wang's game (he's a lefty).

Good call on Wang.
Going to be interesting to see which route Misa takes. One year of college or the jump straight to the NHL.
Originally posted by SFrush:
Going to be interesting to see which route Misa takes. One year of college or the jump straight to the NHL.

I expect him to not jump straight to the NHL, if for no other reason than the Sharks have a lot of depth up front and may be trying to increase value of prospects they want to trade away.
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33 Simon Wang LHD (called it) - Could be a very good defender, could be limited by puck handling
53 Cole McKinney C - NHL level player, probably peaks as a roster filler
95 Teddy Mutryn C - Probably will get a chance to become a solid wing and see if he has chemistry with someone to unlock his game
115 Ilyas Magomedsultanov LHD - NHL level player, probably peaks around 3rd line but a lot of athletic potential
124 Zachary Sharp LHD - Longshot
150 Max Heise C - Longshot
210 Richard Gallant LW - Short longshot :)

3 quality NHL players with a chance for a star or 3 is a good draft.
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Originally posted by Scoots:
33 Simon Wang LHD (called it) - Could be a very good defender, could be limited by puck handling
53 Cole McKinney C - NHL level player, probably peaks as a roster filler
95 Teddy Mutryn C - Probably will get a chance to become a solid wing and see if he has chemistry with someone to unlock his game
115 Ilyas Magomedsultanov LHD - NHL level player, probably peaks around 3rd line but a lot of athletic potential
124 Zachary Sharp LHD - Longshot
150 Max Heise C - Longshot
210 Richard Gallant LW - Short longshot :)

3 quality NHL players with a chance for a star or 3 is a good draft.

I thought they would go with Fiddler at 33. But I don't have a problem with them gambling on Wang. The kid can skate. The rest of his game will need to be polished up though.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by Scoots:
33 Simon Wang LHD (called it) - Could be a very good defender, could be limited by puck handling
53 Cole McKinney C - NHL level player, probably peaks as a roster filler
95 Teddy Mutryn C - Probably will get a chance to become a solid wing and see if he has chemistry with someone to unlock his game
115 Ilyas Magomedsultanov LHD - NHL level player, probably peaks around 3rd line but a lot of athletic potential
124 Zachary Sharp LHD - Longshot
150 Max Heise C - Longshot
210 Richard Gallant LW - Short longshot :)

3 quality NHL players with a chance for a star or 3 is a good draft.

I thought they would go with Fiddler at 33. But I don't have a problem with them gambling on Wang. The kid can skate. The rest of his game will need to be polished up though.

Fiddler needs polish too. Wang is bigger, a better skater, and sees the game better ... where he's worse than Fiddler is on offense, but this team doesn't really need another offensive defenseman ... they need a defensive defenseman.
Originally posted by Scoots:
Fiddler needs polish too. Wang is bigger, a better skater, and sees the game better ... where he's worse than Fiddler is on offense, but this team doesn't really need another offensive defenseman ... they need a defensive defenseman.

That's an understatement. 5 Assists in 50 OHL(Including playoffs) games is really bad. You can almost luck your way into more secondary assists than that.
Originally posted by SFrush:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Fiddler needs polish too. Wang is bigger, a better skater, and sees the game better ... where he's worse than Fiddler is on offense, but this team doesn't really need another offensive defenseman ... they need a defensive defenseman.

That's an understatement. 5 Assists in 50 OHL(Including playoffs) games is really bad. You can almost luck your way into more secondary assists than that.

Yep. But the Sharks do have Dickinson :)

I think Wang's ceiling is higher than Fiddler's, but no question he's got some work to do.
True. Dickinson and Cagnoni as well can create offense.
Some good discussion here on Fiddler vs. Wang. Thought for sure they were going with Fiddler as the best defenseman available to start the 2nd Rd. (or maybe he wasn't?). Also, Fiddler is right-handed and they could use a RHD. Maybe they'll get one in FA or via trade?

Wang has the size, which you can't teach, and supposedly he skates well. Hoping he develops into a solid D-man these next couple of years where he'll be a steady part of the D pairings.
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Some good discussion here on Fiddler vs. Wang. Thought for sure they were going with Fiddler as the best defenseman available to start the 2nd Rd. (or maybe he wasn't?). Also, Fiddler is right-handed and they could use a RHD. Maybe they'll get one in FA or via trade?

Wang has the size, which you can't teach, and supposedly he skates well. Hoping he develops into a solid D-man these next couple of years where he'll be a steady part of the D pairings.

Yeah, Lefty defensemen have higher value so it makes some sense to go for a lefty over a righty if their value is considered similar.

If the prospects on the team mostly work out offense isn't going to be an issue :)

I think the team needs to start trying to win now for the psychology of the kids so I wonder who they will bring in to optimize their chances.
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Some good discussion here on Fiddler vs. Wang. Thought for sure they were going with Fiddler as the best defenseman available to start the 2nd Rd. (or maybe he wasn't?). Also, Fiddler is right-handed and they could use a RHD. Maybe they'll get one in FA or via trade?

Wang has the size, which you can't teach, and supposedly he skates well. Hoping he develops into a solid D-man these next couple of years where he'll be a steady part of the D pairings.

Yeah, Lefty defensemen have higher value so it makes some sense to go for a lefty over a righty if their value is considered similar.

If the prospects on the team mostly work out offense isn't going to be an issue :)

I think the team needs to start trying to win now for the psychology of the kids so I wonder who they will bring in to optimize their chances.

Good post, and excellent point (in bold).
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Some good discussion here on Fiddler vs. Wang. Thought for sure they were going with Fiddler as the best defenseman available to start the 2nd Rd. (or maybe he wasn't?). Also, Fiddler is right-handed and they could use a RHD. Maybe they'll get one in FA or via trade?

Wang has the size, which you can't teach, and supposedly he skates well. Hoping he develops into a solid D-man these next couple of years where he'll be a steady part of the D pairings.

Yeah, Lefty defensemen have higher value so it makes some sense to go for a lefty over a righty if their value is considered similar.

If the prospects on the team mostly work out offense isn't going to be an issue :)

I think the team needs to start trying to win now for the psychology of the kids so I wonder who they will bring in to optimize their chances.

Good post, and excellent point (in bold).

IIRC they'll have some money to spend to just reach the salary floor after resigning guys/depth.

This past season proved they have the talent to compete, but not enough poise to win or keep a lead.
[ Edited by ads_2006 on Jun 30, 2025 at 9:48 AM ]
Originally posted by ads_2006:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Some good discussion here on Fiddler vs. Wang. Thought for sure they were going with Fiddler as the best defenseman available to start the 2nd Rd. (or maybe he wasn't?). Also, Fiddler is right-handed and they could use a RHD. Maybe they'll get one in FA or via trade?

Wang has the size, which you can't teach, and supposedly he skates well. Hoping he develops into a solid D-man these next couple of years where he'll be a steady part of the D pairings.

Yeah, Lefty defensemen have higher value so it makes some sense to go for a lefty over a righty if their value is considered similar.

If the prospects on the team mostly work out offense isn't going to be an issue :)

I think the team needs to start trying to win now for the psychology of the kids so I wonder who they will bring in to optimize their chances.

Good post, and excellent point (in bold).

IIRC they'll have some money to spend to just reach the salary floor after resigning guys/depth.

This past season proved they have the talent to compete, but not enough poise to win or keep a lead.

Yep ... the question is who do they go for?

Aaron Ekblad would be interesting ... he's not too old and he's unrestricted ... there is the drug issue, but maybe he wants a fresh start?
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