Oakland Athletics thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
Well now Nevada law makers wonder if 500 million dollars of public money is worth it

Pump the breaks lol

it is..

consider,

Another benefit to hosting the Super Bowl that politicians tout is the local tax revenue, an estimated gain between $12 and $22 million for Los Angeles with millions more going to the state of California in 2022.

granted.. that is the SB.. but that's approx $16m in tax revenue, just city revenue..

for one game.

A's will bring a lot of games, the per game will be drastically less of course, but imagine 81 games a year for 30+ years, with some playoffs and ALCS or World Series in there and try doing the math.. this is also just local business impact, which is a fraction of the benefit to the community, there are many others.. the tip of the iceberg, if you will

Can't help thinking that if Fisher keeps putting out minor league baseball, people are not going to pay his prices. And if I was involved I wouldn't be betting that he will keep the franchise there for 30 plus years.

Originally posted by ads_2006:
Damn now Mark Davis s**tting on A's ownership

gonna make some Nevada politicians think twice lol

S**tting on A's ownership, or speaking objective facts?

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
Well now Nevada law makers wonder if 500 million dollars of public money is worth it

Pump the breaks lol

it is..

consider,

Another benefit to hosting the Super Bowl that politicians tout is the local tax revenue, an estimated gain between $12 and $22 million for Los Angeles with millions more going to the state of California in 2022.

granted.. that is the SB.. but that's approx $16m in tax revenue, just city revenue..

for one game.

A's will bring a lot of games, the per game will be drastically less of course, but imagine 81 games a year for 30+ years, with some playoffs and ALCS or World Series in there and try doing the math.. this is also just local business impact, which is a fraction of the benefit to the community, there are many others.. the tip of the iceberg, if you will

Can't help thinking that if Fisher keeps putting out minor league baseball, people are not going to pay his prices. And if I was involved I wouldn't be betting that he will keep the franchise there for 30 plus years.

It's a stadium issue, you aren't gonna be competitive or big money or market, in that stadium, it's a clown stadium and an old NFL stadium. SFG also nearly moved, back when their stadium was an old NFL stadium.

Why wouldn't they last a few decades once they relocate to Vegas? Do any teams relocate 2x in 30 years? They've been in Oakland for like 55 years.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's a stadium issue, you aren't gonna be competitive or big money or market, in that stadium, it's a clown stadium and an old NFL stadium. SFG also nearly moved, back when their stadium was an old NFL stadium.

Why wouldn't they last a few decades once they relocate to Vegas? Do any teams relocate 2x in 30 years? They've been in Oakland for like 55 years.

Not sure I follow. The Giants DID move. I must have missed your point. But they are going to walk into the new place with a minor league roster and a reputation for being cheapskates.

"Rooted in Oakland."

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by ads_2006:
Damn now Mark Davis s**tting on A's ownership

gonna make some Nevada politicians think twice lol

S**tting on A's ownership, or speaking objective facts?

lol.. this guy

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It's a stadium issue, you aren't gonna be competitive or big money or market, in that stadium, it's a clown stadium and an old NFL stadium. SFG also nearly moved, back when their stadium was an old NFL stadium.

Why wouldn't they last a few decades once they relocate to Vegas? Do any teams relocate 2x in 30 years? They've been in Oakland for like 55 years.

Not sure I follow. The Giants DID move. I must have missed your point. But they are going to walk into the new place with a minor league roster and a reputation for being cheapskates.

"Rooted in Oakland."

the Giants didn't move.. we are talking relocation. SF didn't relocate. They are still SF. They nearly did relocate, this is well documented, if you know the club or mlb, in the 90s.

you said: I wouldn't be betting that he will keep the franchise there for 30 plus years.

you don't relocate an entire franchise, build a brand new yard, then pick up and leave in short order.. the yard has a certain lifespan, certainly a couple decades plus.. you can't even do that, as public money and MLB is involved they won't let you relocate 2x in short order

no one in Vegas cares about the state of the roster, they want MLB in Vegas, and they look to be getting it, what do you think happens when they get a state of the art yard, a new market, and new TV deal, etc. Manfred came out and said it, they have a much better shot to be competitive in Vegas.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the Giants didn't move.. we are talking relocation. SF didn't relocate. They are still SF. They nearly did relocate, this is well documented, if you know the club or mlb, in the 90s.

you said: I wouldn't be betting that he will keep the franchise there for 30 plus years.

you don't relocate an entire franchise, build a brand new yard, then pick up and leave in short order.. the yard has a certain lifespan, certainly a couple decades plus.. you can't even do that, as public money and MLB is involved they won't let you relocate 2x in short order

no one in Vegas cares about the state of the roster, they want MLB in Vegas, and they look to be getting it, what do you think happens when they get a state of the art yard, a new market, and new TV deal, etc. Manfred came out and said it, they have a much better shot to be competitive in Vegas.

And when their team is 4-18 I am sure Vegas will stream through the turnstiles.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the Giants didn't move.. we are talking relocation. SF didn't relocate. They are still SF. They nearly did relocate, this is well documented, if you know the club or mlb, in the 90s.

you said: I wouldn't be betting that he will keep the franchise there for 30 plus years.

you don't relocate an entire franchise, build a brand new yard, then pick up and leave in short order.. the yard has a certain lifespan, certainly a couple decades plus.. you can't even do that, as public money and MLB is involved they won't let you relocate 2x in short order

no one in Vegas cares about the state of the roster, they want MLB in Vegas, and they look to be getting it, what do you think happens when they get a state of the art yard, a new market, and new TV deal, etc. Manfred came out and said it, they have a much better shot to be competitive in Vegas.

And when their team is 4-18 I am sure Vegas will stream through the turnstiles.

why pour money into winning over Bay Area fans at this point? now when the fans are Vegas fans and he's cheap as can be, it will be a convo, but we aren't there yet

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the Giants didn't move.. we are talking relocation. SF didn't relocate. They are still SF. They nearly did relocate, this is well documented, if you know the club or mlb, in the 90s.

you said: I wouldn't be betting that he will keep the franchise there for 30 plus years.

you don't relocate an entire franchise, build a brand new yard, then pick up and leave in short order.. the yard has a certain lifespan, certainly a couple decades plus.. you can't even do that, as public money and MLB is involved they won't let you relocate 2x in short order

no one in Vegas cares about the state of the roster, they want MLB in Vegas, and they look to be getting it, what do you think happens when they get a state of the art yard, a new market, and new TV deal, etc. Manfred came out and said it, they have a much better shot to be competitive in Vegas.

And when their team is 4-18 I am sure Vegas will stream through the turnstiles.

The Detroit Lions sell out. I bet they will for awhile. I shot triple a baseball in fresno. a Vegas station used to send a very nice remote truck so they could show away games. No one else did that. Some communities are much more thirsty for sports than others.

Also the As have had success in Oakland and have never really felt the same love and respect the Giants have. I'm sad they're leaving but what reason do they have to stay?

Originally posted by HomestarRunner:

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
the Giants didn't move.. we are talking relocation. SF didn't relocate. They are still SF. They nearly did relocate, this is well documented, if you know the club or mlb, in the 90s.

you said: I wouldn't be betting that he will keep the franchise there for 30 plus years.

you don't relocate an entire franchise, build a brand new yard, then pick up and leave in short order.. the yard has a certain lifespan, certainly a couple decades plus.. you can't even do that, as public money and MLB is involved they won't let you relocate 2x in short order

no one in Vegas cares about the state of the roster, they want MLB in Vegas, and they look to be getting it, what do you think happens when they get a state of the art yard, a new market, and new TV deal, etc. Manfred came out and said it, they have a much better shot to be competitive in Vegas.

And when their team is 4-18 I am sure Vegas will stream through the turnstiles.

The Detroit Lions sell out. I bet they will for awhile. I shot triple a baseball in fresno. a Vegas station used to send a very nice remote truck so they could show away games. No one else did that. Some communities are much more thirsty for sports than others.

Also the As have had success in Oakland and have never really felt the same love and respect the Giants have. I'm sad they're leaving but what reason do they have to stay?

that bold is a very good way to put it.. the cities that want pro sports, and offer concessions, will land the teams.. Oakland was a hostile place to run a pro sports franchise, NBA, NFL and now MLB all leaving.. maybe at that point, it's the city.

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As a Giants fan , idk how I feel about this. BYE FELICIA or feel sorry?

Originally posted by TonyStarks:
As a Giants fan , idk how I feel about this. BYE FELICIA or feel sorry?

You should feel grateful that the A's saved your team from being in Tampa for the last 30 years (but you won't).

Poor Kuiper about to get raked over the coals

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Poor Kuiper about to get raked over the coals