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2014 Oakland Athletics Thread

Originally posted by captveg:
I actually like the Shark trade quite a bit. Could be some solid contributors down the road.

I think Beane just did not like the bad vibes from the 2nd half last season. At all. Can't really blame him for that, honestly. I wanted this thing burned down and rebuilt, personally. I would have liked to keep Donaldson and Moss, but the former had become a bit of a hothead, and the latter, while being a top notch classy guy all around, has a major injury concern.

Hopefully the team can replace some of the power drained off the roster in the coming weeks, and gain some speed. 2015 as a semi-rebuild year (competitive but not playoff bound) is OK with me. He went for it all and it blew up in his face. Tough to keep a lot of that same team around when the funk got so bad.

If Beane didn't like the bad vibes in the 2nd half he's got one person to blame for that. And great, maybe solid contributors down the road...for a season or two until they're arbitration-eligible and then "Billy Boy" ships them out.

On the one hand I know that under Beane the A's have been competitive more years than not, and he does make some shrewd moves...but on the other, just as they get a nucleus they can build around he busts it up under the guise of "can't afford it", which is total BS. No I don't expect the A's to spend like the Dodgers, BoSox, Yankees, etc. but they could rather easily afford to lock up a couple guys here and there. IMO it's just a huge conflict of interest that Beane, with an ownership stake, has a vested financial interest in constantly crying poor and rarely keeping some of the younger guys as they enter their prime.
Norris traded to the Padres. Only Billy Beane would be allowed to screw up the A's "best team in baseball" chemistry mid season, and then blow it all up and start over in the offseason.
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Norris traded to the Padres. Only Billy Beane would be allowed to screw up the A's "best team in baseball" chemistry mid season, and then blow it all up and start over in the offseason.

A's have made some dumb trades in the last 5 months but this is not one of them. They raped the Padres in this trade for Norris.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Norris traded to the Padres. Only Billy Beane would be allowed to screw up the A's "best team in baseball" chemistry mid season, and then blow it all up and start over in the offseason.

A's have made some dumb trades in the last 5 months but this is not one of them. They raped the Padres in this trade for Norris.

Yeah I don't mind this trade at all...Norris had the hot start with the bat last year then oscillated between decent stretches and very, very bad ones...and he's below-avg defensively. For whatever reason was never a guy I liked a whole lot.

A's got Jesse Hahn, saw him a couple times last year and looks to be a good young SP...and RJ Alvarez who is even younger, throws hard and potential setup or even closer down the road, Padres liked him enough to get him as part of the Houston Street trade with Angels.
I wish the A's would get a new stadium, even if they have to move. The loyal A's fans deserve better than this nonsense.
Originally posted by 4ML:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Norris traded to the Padres. Only Billy Beane would be allowed to screw up the A's "best team in baseball" chemistry mid season, and then blow it all up and start over in the offseason.

A's have made some dumb trades in the last 5 months but this is not one of them. They raped the Padres in this trade for Norris.

I agree
My favorite trade the offseason by far.
Hahn can be Jarrod Paker-like (pre TJ). And Alvarez has closer potential.

I didn't like Norris my self. His defense is pure garbage and he's the lesser half of a platoon.
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I think Hahn is a good young pitcher and will be very good. Not an ace, but a solid #3 or borderline #2.
Am I wrong, or did the A's give up a lot for two "eh, whatever" guys in their early-30's who are decent but nothing great?

They gave up their #1 and #11 prospects, both of whom have some power, to get Zobrist and Escobar. And oh yeah, plus A's included John Jaso. I know Zobrist is versatile, decent OB, and if he can get back to where he was offensively a few years ago then that's great...and guess it gets Sogard out of the starting lineup. But is it worth the cost of a good young SS with some pop?

Not saying I hate it, but I guess just underwhelmed...someone convince me it's a great deal for the A's.
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Am I wrong, or did the A's give up a lot for two "eh, whatever" guys in their early-30's who are decent but nothing great?

They gave up their #1 and #11 prospects, both of whom have some power, to get Zobrist and Escobar. And oh yeah, plus A's included John Jaso. I know Zobrist is versatile, decent OB, and if he can get back to where he was offensively a few years ago then that's great...and guess it gets Sogard out of the starting lineup. But is it worth the cost of a good young SS with some pop?

Not saying I hate it, but I guess just underwhelmed...someone convince me it's a great deal for the A's.

We're projected to win a wild card spot by fangraphs if it makes you feel any better lol.

I know it sounds weird but I think Beane sold high on Robertson. He's as valuable now as he has ever been, maybe he doesn't think he'll keep up what he achieved last year.

But anyways, I would've loooovveeeddd this deal last year. Even without Escobar. If we added Zobrist and kept Cespedes our team would've been freaking awesome

Zobrist is a free agent next year. Theyll give him a qualifying offer and take the draft pick. Unless we're sub .500 by the all star break, then we probably trade him to a contender.

This is from AN:
Slusser points out that it is now possible for the A's to field all-RH and all-LH lineups, meaning great things for all you fans of platoons out there. It looks like Semien will be moved from the starting SS role to a super-utility role -- bad news for Eric Sogard and Andy Parrino.
Next step: offer Scherzer 1 year $35 mill and win the World Series
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Clippard for Escobar, great trade for you guys.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Clippard for Escobar, great trade for you guys.

I agree, love it
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