2013 NBA Finals thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.

That's exactly what I was gonna post but decided not to. Artest hit a scramble shot off of an offensive rebound to win that game. Kobe was a horrid 6-24 offensively. He also is one of the WORST clutch shooters statistically. He just takes so many wild jumpers that the ones he makes are memorable. He's a volume shooter in the clutch.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Triple double doe.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because of the amount of touches he gets. Dude was an Allen scramble three off of Bosh's rebound of his hellacious brick away from a verrrrrrrry long offseason for him considering the two turnovers he made right before that. But to his credit, he did a tremendous job of leading his team back in the earlier parts of the 4th quarter.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because...he's the best player in the league.

Sure. But his way of being the best player in the league diminishes the opportunities of those around him unless they're spot up shooters or drive & dish bigs. There are others who have been the best player in the league while having a malleable enough skill set to allow other players to do what they do well.

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.

That's exactly what I was gonna post but decided not to. Artest hit a scramble shot off of an offensive rebound to win that game. Kobe was a horrid 6-24 offensively. He also is one of the WORST clutch shooters statistically. He just takes so many wild jumpers that the ones he makes are memorable. He's a volume shooter in the clutch.

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Not down the stretch he didn't. That should have Ray Allen's face on it, lol.

The 3 to cut down to 2 was pretty huge too. That put the pressure on Kwahi to make two FTs and he missed one. Of course, Ray Allen gets huge credit for the 3 and the two FTs in OT....but Lebron was plenty clutch in this game.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Triple double doe.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because of the amount of touches he gets. Dude was an Allen scramble three off of Bosh's rebound of his hellacious brick away from a verrrrrrrry long offseason for him considering the two turnovers he made right before that. But to his credit, he did a tremendous job of leading his team back in the earlier parts of the 4th quarter.

He's gonna put up huge stats more often than not because...he's the best player in the league.

Sure. But his way of being the best player in the league diminishes the opportunities of those around him unless they're spot up shooters or drive & dish bigs. There are others who have been the best player in the league while having a malleable enough skill set to allow other players to do what they do well.

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Lebron is exactly that. Lebron has always made players around him better...much better. Wade was dropping 40 pts in last years Conference Finals playing alongside Lebron. I don't get this argument at all.

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
The 3 to cut down to 2 was pretty huge too. That put the pressure on Kwahi to make two FTs and he missed one. Of course, Ray Allen gets huge credit for the 3 and the two FTs in OT....but Lebron was plenty clutch in this game.

Originally posted by Leathaface:
he'd probably fumble too much

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Not down the stretch he didn't. That should have Ray Allen's face on it, lol.

The 3 to cut down to 2 was pretty huge too. That put the pressure on Kwahi to make two FTs and he missed one. Of course, Ray Allen gets huge credit for the 3 and the two FTs in OT....but Lebron was plenty clutch in this game.

It was. But there were at least 4 other atrocious possessions by him during that time.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Kobe won game 7 vs Celtics because artest locked down Paul Pierce down the stretch. Kobe shot 6 of 24. He did pull down 15 RB. Nobody accused him of choking. The Lakers won. Arrest locked down Pierce and hit clutch shots.

That's exactly what I was gonna post but decided not to. Artest hit a scramble shot off of an offensive rebound to win that game. Kobe was a horrid 6-24 offensively. He also is one of the WORST clutch shooters statistically. He just takes so many wild jumpers that the ones he makes are memorable. He's a volume shooter in the clutch.

No, he didn't.

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
Lol wut. The 3 that he hit at the end of regulation was made possible because he bricked his attempt so hard off the glass that it literally ricocheted without hitting the rim and bounced off the Spurs who had inside position on that play.

His final 3 minutes of regulation went like this:

Missed jumper.
Turnover off a charge.
Turnover stolen by Leonard.
Airball/turnover stolen by Manu.
Missed 3 pointer that doesn't draw iron.
Made 3.
Missed 3 pointer for the tie.

He was a total disaster at money time until Ray hit that shot.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Nah, looks like he got pretty good ball security.

Originally posted by TheBlueHell:
You guys do realize that the fourth quarter is a full 12 minutes, right?

Originally posted by Leathaface:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Nah, looks like he got pretty good ball security.

LOL he really does look like he's running through a seam in the D there, haha.