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2013 NBA Finals thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

2013 NBA Finals thread: San Antonio Spurs vs. Miami Heat

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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Really good effort on defense this time by Miami. They always seem to find a way to get behind in a series and then they play. When woken up and focused this is a pretty good team. Lebron did it all today. Defense, passing, getting points for his guys. Chalmers always seems to step up.

It's hard to win 3 in a row in the 2/3/2 format. And it's very hard to win 3 in a row vs. Miami anywhere. So I suspect this will come back to Miami.

Defense was great. They stepped into passing lanes in anticipation of passes, they got their hands on a lot of the passes, they won the loose ball plays often, and they play physical on the picks that really bothered Parker. Of course they missed a few shots...it's usually a combination of missing shots and other team playin' great D.

It is hard to win 3 straight at home, but Miami did it last year. I can never under-estimate the Spurs.
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Really good effort on defense this time by Miami. They always seem to find a way to get behind in a series and then they play. When woken up and focused this is a pretty good team. Lebron did it all today. Defense, passing, getting points for his guys. Chalmers always seems to step up.

It's hard to win 3 in a row in the 2/3/2 format. And it's very hard to win 3 in a row vs. Miami anywhere. So I suspect this will come back to Miami.

Defense was great. They stepped into passing lanes in anticipation of passes, they got their hands on a lot of the passes, they won the loose ball plays often, and they play physical on the picks that really bothered Parker. Of course they missed a few shots...it's usually a combination of missing shots and other team playin' great D.

It is hard to win 3 straight at home, but Miami did it last year. I can never under-estimate the Spurs.

The Spurs are really capable. But I doubt they close it out in San Antonio. 3 in a row vs. Miami is super tough. How many teams can beat Miami 3 in a row anywhere? How many times does Miami lose 3 in a row anywhere? I think Miami is really capable of bringing it back home. But it won't be easy. I guessed 6 - 7 games. I still see the same. They both seem capable. Miami when they are on their A game seem the best to me. Unfortuately they bring their B game a lot. Plus there is a lot of times they look like a Big 1 instead of Big 3. Too many times the help has abandoned Lebron this year in the playoffs. As much as people rag on Lebron he's the only guy on Miami who plays dominant night in and night out througout the playoffs.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The Spurs are really capable. But I doubt they close it out in San Antonio. 3 in a row vs. Miami is super tough. How many teams can beat Miami 3 in a row anywhere? How many times does Miami lose 3 in a row anywhere? I think Miami is really capable of bringing it back home. But it won't be easy. I guessed 6 - 7 games. I still see the same. They both seem capable. Miami when they are on their A game seem the best to me. Unfortuately they bring their B game a lot. Plus there is a lot of times they look like a Big 1 instead of Big 3. Too many times the help has abandoned Lebron this year in the playoffs. As much as people rag on Lebron he's the only guy on Miami who plays dominant night in and night out througout the playoffs.

It's funny, ppl keep saying Miami has the big 3 and Lebron has so much help, as a way to knock him down. But, they also knock him down for passing the ball to a wide open Chris Bosh late in the close game. What good is this big 3 if they can't be relied upon to hit wide open shots?

Miami doesn't have the big 3 anymore. Hell, they are not even big 2 for 40 minutes a game due to injuries to Wade. That run in game 2 came with Bosh and Wade on the bench. A healthy Wade is a different story, but he hasn't been healthy in the playoffs for 2 straight years now. At least last year he'd go on a tear for a half from time to time. He can't do that either this year.
Well that was an ass whoppin last night. LeBron was great, really got the whole team involved. Miller and Allen were clutch last night. Battier has played his way out of the lineup. Not sure if the spurs just had a bad shooting night, or if Miami D was just better. Spurs big three, especially Manu, were horrible.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Well that was an ass whoppin last night. LeBron was great, really got the whole team involved. Miller and Allen were clutch last night. Battier has played his way out of the lineup. Not sure if the spurs just had a bad shooting night, or if Miami D was just better. Spurs big three, especially Manu, were horrible.

Spurs have had 2 poor shooting nights but MIA poor play down the stretch in game 1 just covered things up. Spurs shot just 41% from the field in both contests. MIA when locked in is THE premier defense in this league. It is how they were able to defeat OKC last year but SAS couldn't. MIA wing defenders are vastly superior, they suffocate you with speed length and surprising strength and stamina. MIA is built on defense and as long as they are attacking and penetrating it will be a long series for Spurs because this is exactly why OKC beat them when they had Westbrook. He penetrated them!!
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Well that was an ass whoppin last night. LeBron was great, really got the whole team involved. Miller and Allen were clutch last night. Battier has played his way out of the lineup. Not sure if the spurs just had a bad shooting night, or if Miami D was just better. Spurs big three, especially Manu, were horrible.

Manu is killing the Spurs with his ball handling. He is the one player on our team that is looking very old and slow. Dude needs to commit one direction and finish the drive or step back.

I think SA should have posted Tim more when it appeared MIA's defense was getting us out of our spots.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
It's funny, ppl keep saying Miami has the big 3 and Lebron has so much help, as a way to knock him down. But, they also knock him down for passing the ball to a wide open Chris Bosh late in the close game. What good is this big 3 if they can't be relied upon to hit wide open shots?

Miami doesn't have the big 3 anymore. Hell, they are not even big 2 for 40 minutes a game due to injuries to Wade. That run in game 2 came with Bosh and Wade on the bench. A healthy Wade is a different story, but he hasn't been healthy in the playoffs for 2 straight years now. At least last year he'd go on a tear for a half from time to time. He can't do that either this year.

What good is Chris Bosh if he can't knock down spot up 3's with the game on the line? That question should answer itself. Before Miami, he was arguably the best offensive big man in the league. When LeBron's on the team, LeBron is the system, and the opportunities key players are diminished, especially in a playoff setting. Someone like Bosh isn't getting consistent opportunities to do what he's best at, and the idea that he should be chastised for missing an open 3 is absurd.

This team is challenging for a repeat because they are tremendous on the defensive end when they want to be, but offensively, LeBron's game diminishes the offensive games of teammates unless they're a spot up shooter or a dish & dunk big. And then it becomes, "these two all-stars who are at an age where it would be really weird for them to have a severe decline are having a severe decline." Wade & Bosh are still tremendous players offensively, they're just marginalized.
Chris Bosh for Kevin Love

Lets do it Miami
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
It's funny, ppl keep saying Miami has the big 3 and Lebron has so much help, as a way to knock him down. But, they also knock him down for passing the ball to a wide open Chris Bosh late in the close game. What good is this big 3 if they can't be relied upon to hit wide open shots?

Miami doesn't have the big 3 anymore. Hell, they are not even big 2 for 40 minutes a game due to injuries to Wade. That run in game 2 came with Bosh and Wade on the bench. A healthy Wade is a different story, but he hasn't been healthy in the playoffs for 2 straight years now. At least last year he'd go on a tear for a half from time to time. He can't do that either this year.

What good is Chris Bosh if he can't knock down spot up 3's with the game on the line? That question should answer itself. Before Miami, he was arguably the best offensive big man in the league. When LeBron's on the team, LeBron is the system, and the opportunities key players are diminished, especially in a playoff setting. Someone like Bosh isn't getting consistent opportunities to do what he's best at, and the idea that he should be chastised for missing an open 3 is absurd.

This team is challenging for a repeat because they are tremendous on the defensive end when they want to be, but offensively, LeBron's game diminishes the offensive games of teammates unless they're a spot up shooter or a dish & dunk big. And then it becomes, "these two all-stars who are at an age where it would be really weird for them to have a severe decline are having a severe decline." Wade & Bosh are still tremendous players offensively, they're just marginalized.

He could have been inside the 3pt line easily. He chose that spot. They were leaving him wide-open. I don't remember defenses purposely leaving Ray Allen or Garnett or Pierce wide open all game.

Also, I'm not saying Wade is declining. Wade is injured and I know he's still a top 5 player when he's healthy. But, he hasn't been healthy for the last 2 playoffs. Wade has averaged 21 ppg during the regular season and shot career high from the field...so I don't think playing alongside Lebron has diminished him whatsoever. If anything, he has been a better player. He's just having tough time staying healthy.

Bosh averaged 10+ boards in Toronto while playing next to Bargnani. Playing next to Lebron shouldn't have stopped him from rebounding. He averged 6.8 rpg in 2012-2013. In his rookie year, Bosh averaged 7.4


In game 1, Lebron shot 16 shots, so did Bosh and Wade had 15 shots...so it's not like when they are given opportunities - they're playing at a high level. Lebron has become a more efficient player too. He may be scoring 30 ppg in Cleveland, no question he is a much better scorer and player today.

Anyway, my point is...how can ppl criticize Lebron for passing the ball to a wide open Bosh or Wade? If they are truly big 3, he should be passing the ball to them when they are open. If he shoots 16 shots in a game, he is called passive. If this is truly a big 3, Lebron shouldn't have to win the games by himself. He has to do it because Wade is not healthy and Bosh can't handle the pressure and doesn't give 100% effort. Him struggling has little to do with Lebron...Bosh was great during the regular season.
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Chris Bosh for Kevin Love

Lets do it Miami

Bosh may get traded in the off-season. Already hearing rumors about it. Bobcats want to trade their 4th overall pick for Bosh...lol

If Kevin Love played solid D, I'd do that trade in a heart-beat.
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Ethan J. Skolnick: Spoelstra says Chalmers' confidence drives him crazy in December and January, "but you like it now."
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Chalmers has had a couple of really good games in the post-season. Have to credit him for his post-season play. But, Spols said what I've been saying for years now. He drives you crazy with this over-the-top confidence.
Chalmers is my dude
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Originally posted by valrod33:
Chalmers is my dude

Chalmers for Rubio...

Do it!
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Chalmers is my dude

Chalmers for Rubio...

Do it!
I dont like him that much
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