Tiger Woods Thread

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

That 3 putt was a choke. Not every time you 3 putt is it a choke, but that one was. Sink eagle to win, birdie to tie, par to lose out on a playoff for the US Open Championship. That's the definition of a choke job.

I disagree for the reasons I stated above. DJ missed putts all day long as did most of the field and he simply isnt a great putter. That putt was a nasty putt on a terrible surface. There were no gimmies on those horrible greens thats for sure.

The bigger choke really was Spieth's iron shot on 17 that almost gave the tourney away. All he has to do is hit his iron on the green there or somewhere close and its over. Or Grace hitting a shot on 16 that I would hit. LOL Huge choke there.

It's not a choke if everything isn't on the line. That's what choking means. When it's all on the line is what matters. It's not a choke job if you miss 2 free throws in the 2nd quarter of a basketball game. It's a choke when you miss 2 free throws with .7 seconds left on the clock and your team is down one. I don't think you understand this. Johnson had the title on the line and could have won outright or tied for a playoff. He 3 putted and took 2nd. That's a choke. When it really matters.

LOL at not understanding. I have played enough competitive sports to know what choking means.

I'm sorry but it ISNT a choke everytime you fail even if it is at the end of the game. You dont seem to understand this. On a putting green there are factors that come into play. Like a horrible green. I think people are always so quick to label someone as a choker when they dont succeed.

Everyone is all over Jordan's nuts today (and the guy is amazing) but his swing on 17 could have and maybe should have cost him the tourney. IMO, that was just as big of a choke job as DJs putt. But it will be forgotton because he was able to 2 putt on 18 and DJ wasnt.

But you don't understand. That's what's funny. You think every swing on the course can be a choke. That's not what choking means. It's when it's all on the line. Dustin choked. I wouldn't label him a choker, but he choked on the 3 putt. You can't say Jordan choked on 17 because he won it on 18. It's not a choke if he still has a chance to win it. Dustin choked. I completely understand that you don't feel this way, but in the sports world, you are wrong. There is no need to continue this debate.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
That 3 putt was a choke. Not every time you 3 putt is it a choke, but that one was. Sink eagle to win, birdie to tie, par to lose out on a playoff for the US Open Championship. That's the definition of a choke job.

I disagree for the reasons I stated above. DJ missed putts all day long as did most of the field and he simply isnt a great putter. That putt was a nasty putt on a terrible surface. There were no gimmies on those horrible greens thats for sure.

The bigger choke really was Spieth's iron shot on 17 that almost gave the tourney away. All he has to do is hit his iron on the green there or somewhere close and its over. Or Grace hitting a shot on 16 that I would hit. LOL Huge choke there.

It's not a choke if everything isn't on the line. That's what choking means. When it's all on the line is what matters. It's not a choke job if you miss 2 free throws in the 2nd quarter of a basketball game. It's a choke when you miss 2 free throws with .7 seconds left on the clock and your team is down one. I don't think you understand this. Johnson had the title on the line and could have won outright or tied for a playoff. He 3 putted and took 2nd. That's a choke. When it really matters.

LOL at not understanding. I have played enough competitive sports to know what choking means.

I'm sorry but it ISNT a choke everytime you fail even if it is at the end of the game. You dont seem to understand this. On a putting green there are factors that come into play. Like a horrible green. I think people are always so quick to label someone as a choker when they dont succeed.

Everyone is all over Jordan's nuts today (and the guy is amazing) but his swing on 17 could have and maybe should have cost him the tourney. IMO, that was just as big of a choke job as DJs putt. But it will be forgotton because he was able to 2 putt on 18 and DJ wasnt.

I don't care what the conditions were, if you have a 12 foot putt to win the U.S. Open on 18, you are the last group, every single golfer on tour would tell you that if you 3 putt that to not at the VERY least 2 putt to force a playoff, that is a choke. I mean, a monster choke too. How is this even a debate? The circumstances mean everything in golf. IT WAS 12 FEET, and he got a read from Day to boot. That's a botch, choke, whatever you want to call it but thats not a 45 foot 3 putt, thats a 12 foot 3 putt. When he hadn't done that for like what 3 years, and the first time it happens is on hole 72 U.S. Open, its a choke.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
That 3 putt was a choke. Not every time you 3 putt is it a choke, but that one was. Sink eagle to win, birdie to tie, par to lose out on a playoff for the US Open Championship. That's the definition of a choke job.

I disagree for the reasons I stated above. DJ missed putts all day long as did most of the field and he simply isnt a great putter. That putt was a nasty putt on a terrible surface. There were no gimmies on those horrible greens thats for sure.

The bigger choke really was Spieth's iron shot on 17 that almost gave the tourney away. All he has to do is hit his iron on the green there or somewhere close and its over. Or Grace hitting a shot on 16 that I would hit. LOL Huge choke there.

It's not a choke if everything isn't on the line. That's what choking means. When it's all on the line is what matters. It's not a choke job if you miss 2 free throws in the 2nd quarter of a basketball game. It's a choke when you miss 2 free throws with .7 seconds left on the clock and your team is down one. I don't think you understand this. Johnson had the title on the line and could have won outright or tied for a playoff. He 3 putted and took 2nd. That's a choke. When it really matters.

LOL at not understanding. I have played enough competitive sports to know what choking means.

I'm sorry but it ISNT a choke everytime you fail even if it is at the end of the game. You dont seem to understand this. On a putting green there are factors that come into play. Like a horrible green. I think people are always so quick to label someone as a choker when they dont succeed.

Everyone is all over Jordan's nuts today (and the guy is amazing) but his swing on 17 could have and maybe should have cost him the tourney. IMO, that was just as big of a choke job as DJs putt. But it will be forgotton because he was able to 2 putt on 18 and DJ wasnt.

But you don't understand. That's what's funny. You think every swing on the course can be a choke. That's not what choking means. It's when it's all on the line. Dustin choked. I wouldn't label him a choker, but he choked on the 3 putt. You can't say Jordan choked on 17 because he won it on 18. It's not a choke if he still has a chance to win it. Dustin choked. I completely understand that you don't feel this way, but in the sports world, you are wrong. There is no need to continue this debate.

Lets play golf for $500 to resolve this debate. We will see who chokes then.

By the way, no I dont think every swing on a course can be a choke but good try putting things in my mouth. I am the one who doesnt think its an automatic choke just because someone fails. But in terms of yesterday.. yes I believe that Jordan's swing on 17 was just as big of a "choke" as DJs and maybe more. There were no bumps in the air and no wind. Just a swing that he would never make if the pressure wasnt on. He got saved because of Johsnon's putts.

Will Tiger ever regain Major Championship form, or is it over? At the moment it appears to be the latter.

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Will Tiger ever regain Major Championship form, or is it over? At the moment it appears to be the latter.

No he will never again be the Tiger of old but I wouldnt put it past him to regain some form and contend again. Doesnt seem likely right now but he is still young enough and talented enough to do it. But, I would bet against him winning another major if I had to make that call.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Lets play golf for $500 to resolve this debate. We will see who chokes then.

How about I just show up to the course we're gonna play at and take your $500 from you? lol

Yeah, it was a choke but look at the bright side, he has Paulina by his side.

SMDH..

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Will Tiger ever regain Major Championship form, or is it over? At the moment it appears to be the latter.

No he will never again be the Tiger of old but I wouldnt put it past him to regain some form and contend again. Doesnt seem likely right now but he is still young enough and talented enough to do it. But, I would bet against him winning another major if I had to make that call.

he needs to slim down again, he looks like a LB now. golf is about finesse and flexibility, not how much you can bench press.

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Will Tiger ever regain Major Championship form, or is it over? At the moment it appears to be the latter.

No he will never again be the Tiger of old but I wouldnt put it past him to regain some form and contend again. Doesnt seem likely right now but he is still young enough and talented enough to do it. But, I would bet against him winning another major if I had to make that call.

he needs to slim down again, he looks like a LB now. golf is about finesse and flexibility, not how much you can bench press.

His size isnt resulting in his putting and overall short game going from the best ever to mediocre. I think its mental. He hits the ball great on the range and then falls apart when he gets on the course.

I think he needs to stop doing Majors for a year or so and just concentrate on smaller tournaments where he can build up his confidence and won't have as much media attention.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Will Tiger ever regain Major Championship form, or is it over? At the moment it appears to be the latter.

No he will never again be the Tiger of old but I wouldnt put it past him to regain some form and contend again. Doesnt seem likely right now but he is still young enough and talented enough to do it. But, I would bet against him winning another major if I had to make that call.

he needs to slim down again, he looks like a LB now. golf is about finesse and flexibility, not how much you can bench press.

His size isnt resulting in his putting and overall short game going from the best ever to mediocre. I think its mental. He hits the ball great on the range and then falls apart when he gets on the course.

so you don't think his extra bulk has anything to do with his performance? i think there's a reason to why 99% of golf players don't bulk up that way.

I think he's off the roids (or whatever) and that's why his body can't hold up now.

Who knew banging pornstars would cause you to lose your confidence.

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by TheHYDE49er:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
Will Tiger ever regain Major Championship form, or is it over? At the moment it appears to be the latter.

No he will never again be the Tiger of old but I wouldnt put it past him to regain some form and contend again. Doesnt seem likely right now but he is still young enough and talented enough to do it. But, I would bet against him winning another major if I had to make that call.

he needs to slim down again, he looks like a LB now. golf is about finesse and flexibility, not how much you can bench press.

His size isnt resulting in his putting and overall short game going from the best ever to mediocre. I think its mental. He hits the ball great on the range and then falls apart when he gets on the course.

so you don't think his extra bulk has anything to do with his performance? i think there's a reason to why 99% of golf players don't bulk up that way.

I really dont. I think its 2 things. One, his confidence is shot. He used to intimidate everyone and he knew he would win. That is completely gone. Secondly, he has changed his swing way too many times and this has completely f**ked him up. Its hard enough to change once let alone 3 times. Tiger still has the flexibility. He just cant repeat his swing and take it from the range to the course. He also cant make clutch putts anymore which is all about his lack of confidence.