Mayweather vs Ortiz September 17th

Originally posted by angelv05:

Originally posted by SportsFan:
The judges cards had Ortiz in the second. I didn't think he was winning the 4th but he wasn't getting his ass whooped. Ortiz may not have won but he was going to give that n****r a fight.

James?

lol If he had said Nyjer, then yes!

Originally posted by 602_JamestownAve:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Could never see a Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali end a fight like that, can't believe some of you think nothing is wrong what he did.

Nothing wrong with it at all. You're acting as if he kicked him in the groin while Joe Cortes wasn't looking and won the fight. Ortiz got knocked out for not paying attention to his opponent, his responsibility, no one elses. Seems like it's being made worse because of who did it. If MP did, I know Lampley and Merchant both would be slurping up MP's ball bag for taking advantage of his opponents not protecting himself because like Raymond, everybody loves MP. One guy is a cheapshot artist and the other is a tactician who seized the opportunity.

It's similar to how during Hurricane Katrina, Time magazine had pictures of black folks running out of a supermarket with food and the caption to the picture was "Residents of the 5th Ward seen stealing and looting food from a super market." 2 pages later, some "non blacks" are seen holding a loaf of bread, bottled water and some hot dogs. The caption? "Desperate for food, this couple is lucky to have FOUND some items to help sustain them until FEMA is there to help."

Sometimes its more of an issue with who's doing it than what was done and in this case, if it wasn't FM, some still would have a problem with it, but not as many as there are now with him winning that way.

MP, as in Manny Pacquaio?

Lol, you're not really bringing up the race card, are you? A black guy against a filipino? Really?

If Manny pulled this kind of s**t (which he won't), he'd get crucified in the court of fan opinion just as well.

There is no discrimination when it comes to class and sporting conduct.

Originally posted by 602_JamestownAve:

Originally posted by SportsFan:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Originally posted by 602_JamestownAve:

Easy work regardless of the "cheap shot". I'm not even a Mayweather fan and I know that once the ref says lets go and brings his hands together, action is live and if one guy wants to play nice after he did some dirty sht like Ortiz did, and the other guy starts firing on you, it's not the fault of the guy who keeps his focus on the action and knocks your azz out.

You may not like it, but if it was illegal, Ortiz would have won by DQ on FM. But it wasn't illegal and myself having fought for over 15 years know that's rule #1 in boxing and as a former fighter, it's more disgusting that Ortiz threw the headbutt and NO ONE seems to give 2 sht1s about that btchazz move. FM was whoopin this dude azz all night, beating him to the punch and its ALLLLL forgotten that the sht started because Ortiz went dirty with the head butt.

All Ortiz did was prolong the inevitable. He was taking an L regardless. Except now he didn't have to get his azz kicked for 12 and only 4 instead. FM won because he was focused on the fight, saw a chance to score and did it. Now go fight Pacquiao.

Since you boxed, would you be proud of doing something like that in one of your fights?

I love this talk he was whooping his ass. We were three rounds in and Ortiz clearly won the second round. Ya it was clearly over already. Please.

Ortiz was also winning the 4th round not until that stupid headbutt he threw.

Wrong. I have no clue what fight you saw but go look at the punch stats. FM was landing that lead straight like it was a jab and Ortiz had only 1 asnwer to it...the headbutt. You think a fighter who thought he was winning a fight would be frustrated enough to throw a headbutt? So I suppose Tyson bit Holyfield's ear because he was winning that fight too according to your guys analysis.

Oh, BTW I did the research for you: Mayweather landed 73 of 208 punches to just 26 of 148 for Ortiz.

Won the 2nd and was winning the 4th? C'mon guys.

Reach much?
Exactly! Floyd "may" have lost the second (debateable id say it was a eveb round) but to give the round to ortiz in the 4th for one flurry is silly...dude was eating right fist the entire fight...ortiz got frustrated and lashed out with a weak headbutt...then got knocked out in a,questionable manner but for one should be protcting himself and two was obviously out of his league fighting a far superior boxer in floyd

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Originally posted by 602_JamestownAve:

Originally posted by jimrat201:

Could never see a Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali end a fight like that, can't believe some of you think nothing is wrong what he did.

Nothing wrong with it at all. You're acting as if he kicked him in the groin while Joe Cortes wasn't looking and won the fight. Ortiz got knocked out for not paying attention to his opponent, his responsibility, no one elses. Seems like it's being made worse because of who did it. If MP did, I know Lampley and Merchant both would be slurping up MP's ball bag for taking advantage of his opponents not protecting himself because like Raymond, everybody loves MP. One guy is a cheapshot artist and the other is a tactician who seized the opportunity.

It's similar to how during Hurricane Katrina, Time magazine had pictures of black folks running out of a supermarket with food and the caption to the picture was "Residents of the 5th Ward seen stealing and looting food from a super market." 2 pages later, some "non blacks" are seen holding a loaf of bread, bottled water and some hot dogs. The caption? "Desperate for food, this couple is lucky to have FOUND some items to help sustain them until FEMA is there to help."

Sometimes its more of an issue with who's doing it than what was done and in this case, if it wasn't FM, some still would have a problem with it, but not as many as there are now with him winning that way.

MP, as in Manny Pacquaio?

Lol, you're not really bringing up the race card, are you? A black guy against a filipino? Really?

If Manny pulled this kind of s**t (which he won't), he'd get crucified in the court of fan opinion just as well.

There is no discrimination when it comes to class and sporting conduct.

No race card intended. I'm black.I dont need to be schooled on Filipinos and Blacks and race card issues and how the race card is overused in inappropriate situations. My point was that just how the perception of good and evil usually favors the guy who is more liked against the guy who is more hateable in a "benefit of the doubt" scenario.

The Time Magazine comparison I used is a classic case of how 2 things can happen, both equal, but be seen differently by who is doing it. MP has the world by the nuts so if in the same opportunity, would seize the chance because thats boxing but i think he'd get the benefit of the doubt quicker than FM because he's more likable. You may hate to hear that, but it's true. It's bloodsport. And if given the option, its gonna be your blood and not mine EVERY TIME I'm in the ring. This "a real man would 'wait for your opponent to get ready" business is some clown sht. EVERY FIGHTER in history knows this. If I wait, I'm late and I lose.

Just like how Pacquiao gets credit for beating old beaten fighters, some of which FM fought and beat up before him when they were closer to their prime, but its overlooked because he smiles and is a nice guy but it's FM who hand picks his fighters for easy wins. As I've said, I am not a FM fan. I love the sport of boxing and know double standards when I see them. You don't have to like it, but its true my man. It's true.

Originally posted by SanFranMan:

Originally posted by Bay_Area_Fan:

Originally posted by Bryant4everYoung:

Originally posted by TonyStarks:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

I thought Roger was going to come out and fight for him.
BTW Cortez actually phu*ked up.

That fight was all WWE quality lol

BTOW Canelo is a beast.

Can't wait for Canelo to fight Chavez jr

this!

Thought the Alvarez vs Gomez fight was stopped early, other then that good win for Alvarez

I think this whole deal will work out for the best for Boxing. When people are pissed off at something, they'll pay good money to see it some more.

Originally posted by SportsFan:
The judges cards had Ortiz in the second. I didn't think he was winning the 4th but he wasn't getting his ass whooped. Ortiz may not have won but he was going to give that n****r a fight.

Is this a joke? Ban this clown.

Originally posted by DarthNiner:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by DarthNiner:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Floyd shoulda dropped that old man too. all the mexicans i know are hella mad their boy lost lol. if ortiz didnt headbutt him like a little b***h he wouldntve got dropped. its not floyds fault that douchebag didnt protect himself. bring on manny pacquiao

Boxing would make gazillions of dollars off of Floyd KO'ing Larry Merchant. It needs to be entertaining again.

if manny stops doping and takes the test then boxing will be exciting.

WTF? That's slander. There's no truth to that.

You want truth? Mayweather is a sucker puncher. You want proof. Watch tonight's replay.

sorry, Manny is God!!! i should know better than to talk bad about manny pacquiao!!! how do you know theres no truth to that? why would floyd be willing to show how clean he is but manny wont? if he has nothing to hide then do the test. sucker punch? the ref said fight, floyd fought, ortiz dropped.

All I'm saying is your basing your point on heresay with not definitive proof... and that's the foundation of slander. Manny is on drugs because Mayweather's camp said so? Please....

I'm not even talking about Pacquiao anymore. If you say that a co-worker is has a criminal past but don't have proof, then you have nothing to stand on.

not basing it on floyds camp. i dont even care what either of them say. the facts are that he doesnt want to test a few days before the fight and right after the fight. if hes clean he would test. he hasnt been proven to take roids or blood doping like lance armstrong but its kinda fishy that hes so against the testing when both fighters would have to take the same tests. its not like floyd is saying only manny will be tested. they need to shut up and fight and quit the b******t.

Originally posted by LB49ers:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
sorry, Manny is God!!! i should know better than to talk bad about manny pacquiao!!! how do you know theres no truth to that? why would floyd be willing to show how clean he is but manny wont? if he has nothing to hide then do the test. sucker punch? the ref said fight, floyd fought, ortiz dropped.

Doesn't boxing already have drug test that you have to submit to for a fight. And doesn't Pacquiao already submit to them. I personally think that this fight will never happen because Floyd feels he doesn't need to fight Manny. I have also heard from boxing experts that Floyd hates that Manny gets so much love and that he won't give him the satisfaction of giving him the fight. I guess it is a lot like Bonds and his contempt for Sosa and Mcguire seeing them as inferior and not understanding why they are loved so much

does anyone actually love mcguire and sosa? and Bonds was better than both of them in every way lol. during negotiations for every fight they set the rules of the fight. weight of the gloves, rules for various things. i dont blame floyd for being a little suspicious. the man has a 42-0 record now so hes still undefeated. if you were undefeated and had a record like that going wouldnt you want to know the dude your gonna fight, whos moved up a ton of weight classes, isnt cheating? its pretty logical to be skeptical of Manny if you ask me. also kind of fishy that blood testing is the only thing stopping this super fight (probably trilogy) from happening. if your clean take the tests. its not like theyre only gonna test one side, both will go through the same exact tests. both of these guys need to know that the only fight left that anyone gives a damn about is Manny vs Floyd. Get it on!!!

LOL is that the only way Mayweather can KO his opponents.

Did somebody give Mayweather a discount, cause that was cheap.

You guys talking about Mayweather like you know him..... WEAK

However you slice that pie it was totally Ortiz's fault. He got all emotional because he CLEARLY cheated, got soft and went beddy bye bye for trying to be nice.

Originally posted by TheGoldStandard:

Originally posted by SportsFan:
The judges cards had Ortiz in the second. I didn't think he was winning the 4th but he wasn't getting his ass whooped. Ortiz may not have won but he was going to give that n****r a fight.

Is this a joke? Ban this clown.

No s**t I don't want to be part of a site the that allows this. Not a good look mods....

if Mayweather had been hurt or KO'd by that headbutt, everyone would've been calling him a p***y. What mayweather did was perfectly legal. Put up your dukes son!!!


and larry merchant IS a b***h!

"the guy who wouldn't fight Pac" might have won fair but is now the biggest official douche of boxing after he called out Larry after a unimpressive KO. It took him 2 sucker punches to knock someone down?