Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by skeetskeet:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Crazy49er1313:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by jrg:
Jon Garland to Dodgers
Dodgers might be the surprise team next year as much as I hate to say it. Kershaw, Billingsley, Kuroda, Lilly, and Garland is a nice starting 5 and they have a terrific backend duo of Kuo and Broxton. If they get 1 more hitter look out.
I think Lilly and Kershaw are a tad overrated, though Kuroda, Billingsly, and Broxton are a pretty solid core to build around. As much as adding Garland sounds good, it would've sounded better 2-3 years ago...not as worried about him, though if they do add another bat, they probably will have the best batting lineup in the NL West
You must not watch the Dodgers that much. Kershaw is NOT overrated. In fact, outside of David Price he is probably the best young LH pitcher in the game. He is their ace.. not Kuroda or Billingsley. The Dodgers will be in the race next year. I would look for a bounce back year from Kemp and Broxton who both had off years in 2010.
cant be an ACE until u can consistently last in games. Kershaw has GREAT stuff but he throws too many pitches and gets pulled early and often.
Id say right now, Billingsley is their Ace. He has flashes of brilliance left and right but had a bad second half two seasons ago and average year last year.
Meh ur right. he is their ace. he will be their opening day starter.
Just the way Billingsley pitches against the giants...
Kershaw has 2.79 and 2.91 era last 2 years. He also just struck out 212 guys in 204 innings. He was 4th in the league in hits per 9 innings, 4th in the league in K's per 9 innings, 9th in the league in WAR for pitchers, 8th in the league in shutouts.. Oh.. he is 22 years old.
As far as how he pitched against the Giants... well I'd say pretty damn well. The Giants hit .176 off him. Their slugging average was.. and this is unreal.. .284. His whip against the World Champions was 0.996 Just amazing stats
The only pitcher on the Giants I wouldnt trade for Kershaw is Linceum. I would deal Cain for him I know that. He is that good now and could be a monster in a year or 2. Anyone who thinks he isnt their ace or thinks he is overrated just doesnt see him pitch much.
Kershaw is a great young pitcher, but he has alot of the same issues Jonathan Sanchez does. when hes on, hes REALLY hard to hit, but when his control issues are acting up, he struggles to go 6 innings. a big difference is Sanchez is 27, and Kershaw is 22, so he has more time to straighten things out.
Kershaw was top 10 in all the important stats in the NL. He is a #1 pitcher on most teams in baseball. Sanchez is a #3-4 starting pitcher. Yes they both have wildness issues but Kershaw is head and shoulders above Sanchez. It isnt even close.
Jonathan Sanchez had a pretty good year though John... 3.07 era with a 9.54 k/9 in almost 200 innings of work. Kershaws era was only 16 pts lower. Sanchez k'd about the same, and had the best Opp. Avg. in baseball.
their era's were in the same range, whip in the same range, k/9 same range, win/loss same range, opp avg same range, walks same range, etc. id rather have Kershaw obviously because of age, but its not really fair to say right now hes definitely a better pitcher than Sanchez and "its not even close".
Sanchez might have had one of the best seasons ever for someone who is so heavily criticized and supposedly "problem laden".
both are good, Kershaw has a brighter future. i agree there. in my fantasy league we can only keep 5 players, and my 5 happen to be Posey for 9 bucks, Josh Johnson for 17, McCutchen for 16, Ethier for 16, and Kershaw for 15.
[ Edited by Niners99 on Nov 28, 2010 at 02:53:05 ]
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