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Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Pete, Stoney, who ever else feels that way..

Please explain tome how Iverson is "overrated"


He already did in post 394

Gotcha. To each their own, but I just don't see Iverson as being overrated. Thats just me though. If he can get passed this Memphis garbage theres not much holding him back from being in the HOF IMO.

He is the NBA version of TO. Talented like a mofo, but just a POS that doesn't get it. He's a one trick pony that has never done anything to put his team over the top. Never once has he said "Ya' know, I could start b!tching and complaining because I don't get the ball as much as I want to, but instead I'm going to put my trust in the coach/team and so what's best for everybody." Me, me, me!!! I, I, I!!!



Talented? Yes. HoF? Probably. A guy I would never want on MY team? Definately, 100%.
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Terrell Owens is the second greatest receiver of all time. I'd take him on my team any day. The Niners have won nothing since he left.
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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Pete, Stoney, who ever else feels that way..

Please explain tome how Iverson is "overrated"


He already did in post 394

Gotcha. To each their own, but I just don't see Iverson as being overrated. Thats just me though. If he can get passed this Memphis garbage theres not much holding him back from being in the HOF IMO.

I'm with you. Iverson is a 150% lock for the Hall of Fame. He is the greatest player in NBA history under 6 feet.

Which is a very big reason I can't understand seeing him being called underrated. Name someone who could do the stuff that guy did in Philadelphia basically by HIMSELF..you probably can't..and the dudes right at or around 6 feet tall.
Originally posted by crzy:
Terrell Owens is the second greatest receiver of all time. I'd take him on my team any day. The Niners have won nothing since he left.

How are the Bills doing? The Eagles won in the playoffs without him, so that's moot, and the Cowboys won nothing with him. Soooooo, I see your point, totally.
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Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by crzy:
Terrell Owens is the second greatest receiver of all time. I'd take him on my team any day. The Niners have won nothing since he left.

How are the Bills doing? The Eagles won in the playoffs without him, so that's moot, and the Cowboys won nothing with him. Soooooo, I see your point, totally.

Bills have horrible quaterback play. Cowboys have one of the biggest choke artists I've seen in Romo. His record in December is ridiculous.


EDIT: I don't know if I'd call him the second best of all time, but he is absolutely top 5 IMO.

[ Edited by Dino on Nov 7, 2009 at 22:57:44 ]
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Pete, Stoney, who ever else feels that way..

Please explain tome how Iverson is "overrated"


He already did in post 394

Gotcha. To each their own, but I just don't see Iverson as being overrated. Thats just me though. If he can get passed this Memphis garbage theres not much holding him back from being in the HOF IMO.

I'm with you. Iverson is a 150% lock for the Hall of Fame. He is the greatest player in NBA history under 6 feet.

He'll definitely make the Hall of Fame. Is it deserved? I don't think so, and it has nothing to do with Memphis. He was an individual scorer who did almost nothing else, and his scoring didn't open up opportunities for others, which is why they did well when he left. I view AI as a rich man's Zach Randolph in the "hollow numbers" sense.

As for guys his size, I'll take Chris Paul every day of the week before I take AI. And I don't really think how tall someone is matters. It's a qualifier that has no value, IMO.

[ Edited by LA9erFan on Nov 7, 2009 at 23:19:26 ]
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by jrg:
Pete, Stoney, who ever else feels that way..

Please explain tome how Iverson is "overrated"


He already did in post 394

Gotcha. To each their own, but I just don't see Iverson as being overrated. Thats just me though. If he can get passed this Memphis garbage theres not much holding him back from being in the HOF IMO.

He is the NBA version of TO. Talented like a mofo, but just a POS that doesn't get it. He's a one trick pony that has never done anything to put his team over the top. Never once has he said "Ya' know, I could start b!tching and complaining because I don't get the ball as much as I want to, but instead I'm going to put my trust in the coach/team and so what's best for everybody." Me, me, me!!! I, I, I!!!



Talented? Yes. HoF? Probably. A guy I would never want on MY team? Definately, 100%.

I agree completely.
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by crzy:
Terrell Owens is the second greatest receiver of all time. I'd take him on my team any day. The Niners have won nothing since he left.

How are the Bills doing? The Eagles won in the playoffs without him, so that's moot, and the Cowboys won nothing with him. Soooooo, I see your point, totally.


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Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by crzy:
Terrell Owens is the second greatest receiver of all time. I'd take him on my team any day. The Niners have won nothing since he left.

How are the Bills doing? The Eagles won in the playoffs without him, so that's moot, and the Cowboys won nothing with him. Soooooo, I see your point, totally.

Your argument

Terrell Owens is almost 40 years old. He's clearly not the same player he was in his prime.
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by crzy:
Terrell Owens is the second greatest receiver of all time. I'd take him on my team any day. The Niners have won nothing since he left.

How are the Bills doing? The Eagles won in the playoffs without him, so that's moot, and the Cowboys won nothing with him. Soooooo, I see your point, totally.

Your argument

Terrell Owens is almost 40 years old. He's clearly not the same player he was in his prime.

My argument is that he's not a winner. He's a great player, but teams do fine without him. Don't blame the Niner's losses on not having TO, when it was clearly bad management.

Second greatest receive all time? Not at all.
Are we changing this to the NFL General Discussion thread?
Jonny Flynn

Originally posted by valrod33:
Jonny Flynn


That's a neat trick, but does he realize they're only allowed to use one of those? If they used both, then the Wolves would just lose by twice as much.
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Jonny Flynn


That's a neat trick, but does he realize they're only allowed to use one of those? If they used both, then the Wolves would just lose by twice as much.

oh yeah well Manu is going bald and has rabies

[ Edited by valrod33 on Nov 9, 2009 at 10:06:21 ]
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Jonny Flynn


That's a neat trick, but does he realize they're only allowed to use one of those? If they used both, then the Wolves would just lose by twice as much.

oh yeah well Manu is going bald and has rabies

He had his shots! And I fixed your post.

I guess your wolves need to spare all the L's you can, huh? Gonna need 'em!
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