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Dec 13, 2009 at 11:29 PM
- phiLthyphiL
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When he KO'd Diaz (which was a hell of a fight that Diaz was actually dominating) I believe that fight was at lightweight. I just hope Marquez has proper time to adjust to 140.
Dec 14, 2009 at 9:35 PM
- HaiGuise
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Had to steal this graphic from someone's sig in boxingscene
Dec 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM
- phiLthyphiL
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Supposedly Marquez and Hatton have agreed to a fight. Throw that sucker on the Pac/Mayweather undercard.
Dec 14, 2009 at 11:35 PM
- MoistButtCheeks
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Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
Supposedly Marquez and Hatton have agreed to a fight. Throw that sucker on the Pac/Mayweather undercard.
Thats Weak. Marquez is on his last leg and Hatton has nothing to offer IMO. I'd rather see him fight one of the younger lightweights.
Dec 15, 2009 at 1:12 AM
- silkyjohnson
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Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
Supposedly Marquez and Hatton have agreed to a fight. Throw that sucker on the Pac/Mayweather undercard.
Thats Weak. Marquez is on his last leg and Hatton has nothing to offer IMO. I'd rather see him fight one of the younger lightweights.
No way that goes in the undercard. Only reason they both agreed to this fight is for the paycheck.
This has England written all over it.
[ Edited by silkyjohnson on Dec 15, 2009 at 07:15:39 ]
Dec 15, 2009 at 7:39 AM
- TonyStarks
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Originally posted by silkyjohnson:Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
Supposedly Marquez and Hatton have agreed to a fight. Throw that sucker on the Pac/Mayweather undercard.
Thats Weak. Marquez is on his last leg and Hatton has nothing to offer IMO. I'd rather see him fight one of the younger lightweights.
No way that goes in the undercard. Only reason they both agreed to this fight is for the paycheck.
This has England written all over it.
I sawr Ricky Fatton on WWE Raw.
He must've ballooned up to 200 lbs!
Dec 15, 2009 at 7:53 AM
- HaiGuise
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:Originally posted by silkyjohnson:Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
Supposedly Marquez and Hatton have agreed to a fight. Throw that sucker on the Pac/Mayweather undercard.
Thats Weak. Marquez is on his last leg and Hatton has nothing to offer IMO. I'd rather see him fight one of the younger lightweights.
No way that goes in the undercard. Only reason they both agreed to this fight is for the paycheck.
This has England written all over it.
I sawr Ricky Fatton on WWE Raw.
He must've ballooned up to 200 lbs!
Slightly over 140 lbs? lol
Dec 15, 2009 at 7:59 AM
- TonyStarks
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Originally posted by HaiGuise:Originally posted by TonyStarks:Originally posted by silkyjohnson:Originally posted by MoistButtCheeks:Originally posted by phiLthyphiL:
Supposedly Marquez and Hatton have agreed to a fight. Throw that sucker on the Pac/Mayweather undercard.
Thats Weak. Marquez is on his last leg and Hatton has nothing to offer IMO. I'd rather see him fight one of the younger lightweights.
No way that goes in the undercard. Only reason they both agreed to this fight is for the paycheck.
This has England written all over it.
I sawr Ricky Fatton on WWE Raw.
He must've ballooned up to 200 lbs!
Slightly over 140 lbs? lol
He's got cankles now.
wtf?
Dec 17, 2009 at 4:24 AM
- silkyjohnson
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Wow! Never seen this commercial before... pretty cool I think.
Dec 22, 2009 at 6:25 PM
- 9erfanAUS
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From ESPN.com:
Testing fuss jeopardizes Pacquiao-Mayweather fight
The Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather welterweight title megafight, tentatively scheduled for March 13 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, is in jeopardy.
According to Golden Boy Promotions, which is representing Mayweather, Pacquiao refused Tuesday to agree to the Olympic-style drug testing procedures the sides had been negotiating.
Mayweather requested that the drug testing for the fight be in compliance with the United States Anti Doping Agency, which handles drug testing for Olympians, "to ensure fair play and sportsmanship by both fighters."
Olympic style testing is more rigorous than the drug testing performed by the Nevada State Athletic Commission and other state commissions. It would involve random blood and urine testing before and after the fight. Nevada commission testing only tests urine for banned substances, once just before the fight and once immediately following the fight.
Floyd Mayweather Sr., the fighter's father, has repeatedly accused Pacquiao of taking illegal substances, even though Pacquiao denies it and he has never failed a drug test.
According to Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, who is negotiating the deal with Top Rank president Todd duBoef, Pacquiao refuses to have his blood drawn within 30 days of the bout based on his superstition of testing so close to a fight.
"Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn't want to do it so close to the fight," Schaefer said. "He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight."
Two weeks ago, Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, told ESPN.com that their side had no problem with Olympic style testing.
"I have no problem with the testing whatsoever," Roach said then. "They can do whatever kind of drug testing they want. They're scared of Manny and scared of his power. He'll pass any test in the world."
Schaefer said he hoped it was simply a "miscommunication" on the Pacquiao side.
"I do hope it is some sort of miscommunication and that Pacquiao is not even aware of what is going on and he will clear this up and say what is good enough for these great Olympic athletes is good enough for him and Floyd, and he agrees to do these drug tests.
"Team Mayweather is very surprised that an elite athlete like Manny Pacquiao would refuse drug testing procedures which Floyd has already agreed to and have been agreed to by many other top athletes. Why would Pacquiao refuse to have the same kind of testing that Lance Armstrong, Michael Phelps, LeBron James and Kobe Bryant have had?"
Told of Pacquiao's reluctance to be tested, Mayweather said he should explain himself.
"I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken because, frankly, I don't know anyone who really does," Mayweather said in a statement. "But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same. It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night.
"I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA."
Said Leonard Ellerbe, a Mayweather adviser, in a statement, "We hope that Manny will do the right thing and agree to the testing as it is an egregious act to deny the testing and hence, deny the millions of fans the right to see this amazing fight. We just want to make sure there is a level playing field in a sport that is a man-to-man contest that relies on strength and ability.
"I still hope this decision is coming from someone in Pacquiao's camp and not Manny himself as it would be a shame that an athlete of his stature and who represents his whole country would not be able to show the public or his fellow athletes that he agrees to the highest standards in sports competition."
Top Rank spokesman Lee Samuels said the company declined to comment.
Schaefer said he and duBoef had "worked out all other issues related to the fight," disclosing to ESPN.com that the fight would be at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, if they can work out the drug testing issue.
"We have agreed on all terms, including the site," Schaefer said.
The MGM Grand beat out several other interested venues, including Dallas Cowboys Stadium. Team owner Jerry Jones had offered a $25 million site fee, the largest in boxing history, but the promoters took an offer from the MGM Grand, whose terms have not been disclosed.
In addition, Schaefer told ESPN.com that the sides had agreed on an unprecedented penalty if either fighter weighed in heavier than the contract limit of 147 pounds.
"We agreed to $10 million per pound, or fraction thereof," Schaefer said. "That's what the Pacquiao side wanted and we said OK to that. That's unheard of. We have agreed on everything except for this drug testing issue. I have to think Pacquiao is unaware of this. The drug testing had been part of the contract for a while and then they suddenly said no. I was informed of that [Tuesday] morning. Suddenly they changed course and I don't know why."
Pacquiao wanted a huge monetary penalty if Mayweather was overweight because he ignored the contract limit of 144 pounds for his September fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, coming in at 146 pounds and paying a $600,000 penalty for the extra advantage.
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Testing fuss jeopardizes Pacquiao-Mayweather fight
The Manny Pacquiao-Floyd Mayweather welterweight title megafight, tentatively scheduled for March 13 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, is in jeopardy.
According to Golden Boy Promotions, which is representing Mayweather, Pacquiao refused Tuesday to agree to the Olympic-style drug testing procedures the sides had been negotiating.
Mayweather requested that the drug testing for the fight be in compliance with the United States Anti Doping Agency, which handles drug testing for Olympians, "to ensure fair play and sportsmanship by both fighters."
Olympic style testing is more rigorous than the drug testing performed by the Nevada State Athletic Commission and other state commissions. It would involve random blood and urine testing before and after the fight. Nevada commission testing only tests urine for banned substances, once just before the fight and once immediately following the fight.
Floyd Mayweather Sr., the fighter's father, has repeatedly accused Pacquiao of taking illegal substances, even though Pacquiao denies it and he has never failed a drug test.
According to Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer, who is negotiating the deal with Top Rank president Todd duBoef, Pacquiao refuses to have his blood drawn within 30 days of the bout based on his superstition of testing so close to a fight.
"Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn't want to do it so close to the fight," Schaefer said. "He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight."
Two weeks ago, Pacquiao's trainer, Freddie Roach, told ESPN.com that their side had no problem with Olympic style testing.
"I have no problem with the testing whatsoever," Roach said then. "They can do whatever kind of drug testing they want. They're scared of Manny and scared of his power. He'll pass any test in the world."
Schaefer said he hoped it was simply a "miscommunication" on the Pacquiao side.
"I do hope it is some sort of miscommunication and that Pacquiao is not even aware of what is going on and he will clear this up and say what is good enough for these great Olympic athletes is good enough for him and Floyd, and he agrees to do these drug tests.
"Team Mayweather is very surprised that an elite athlete like Manny Pacquiao would refuse drug testing procedures which Floyd has already agreed to and have been agreed to by many other top athletes. Why would Pacquiao refuse to have the same kind of testing that Lance Armstrong, Michael Phelps, LeBron James and Kobe Bryant have had?"
Told of Pacquiao's reluctance to be tested, Mayweather said he should explain himself.
"I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken because, frankly, I don't know anyone who really does," Mayweather said in a statement. "But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same. It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night.
"I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA."
Said Leonard Ellerbe, a Mayweather adviser, in a statement, "We hope that Manny will do the right thing and agree to the testing as it is an egregious act to deny the testing and hence, deny the millions of fans the right to see this amazing fight. We just want to make sure there is a level playing field in a sport that is a man-to-man contest that relies on strength and ability.
"I still hope this decision is coming from someone in Pacquiao's camp and not Manny himself as it would be a shame that an athlete of his stature and who represents his whole country would not be able to show the public or his fellow athletes that he agrees to the highest standards in sports competition."
Top Rank spokesman Lee Samuels said the company declined to comment.
Schaefer said he and duBoef had "worked out all other issues related to the fight," disclosing to ESPN.com that the fight would be at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, if they can work out the drug testing issue.
"We have agreed on all terms, including the site," Schaefer said.
The MGM Grand beat out several other interested venues, including Dallas Cowboys Stadium. Team owner Jerry Jones had offered a $25 million site fee, the largest in boxing history, but the promoters took an offer from the MGM Grand, whose terms have not been disclosed.
In addition, Schaefer told ESPN.com that the sides had agreed on an unprecedented penalty if either fighter weighed in heavier than the contract limit of 147 pounds.
"We agreed to $10 million per pound, or fraction thereof," Schaefer said. "That's what the Pacquiao side wanted and we said OK to that. That's unheard of. We have agreed on everything except for this drug testing issue. I have to think Pacquiao is unaware of this. The drug testing had been part of the contract for a while and then they suddenly said no. I was informed of that [Tuesday] morning. Suddenly they changed course and I don't know why."
Pacquiao wanted a huge monetary penalty if Mayweather was overweight because he ignored the contract limit of 144 pounds for his September fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, coming in at 146 pounds and paying a $600,000 penalty for the extra advantage.
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Jan 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM
- HaiGuise
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Miguel Cotto's father passes away
RIP Don Miguel. I feel for the Cotto family. They've gone through so much the last couple of years.
RIP Don Miguel. I feel for the Cotto family. They've gone through so much the last couple of years.
Jan 3, 2010 at 1:08 PM
- TonyStarks
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Originally posted by HaiGuise:
Miguel Cotto's father passes away
RIP Don Miguel. I feel for the Cotto family. They've gone through so much the last couple of years.
Aw damn
he was on 24/7
RIP
Jan 3, 2010 at 1:37 PM
- HaiGuise
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:Originally posted by HaiGuise:
Miguel Cotto's father passes away
RIP Don Miguel. I feel for the Cotto family. They've gone through so much the last couple of years.
Aw damn
he was on 24/7
RIP
Yeah that's crazy s**t. I wonder if this somehow unites the Cotto family and brings Evangelista back into Miguel's corner. It's too bad there was bad blood between the brothers and that tney weren't able to patch things up.
Jan 3, 2010 at 2:17 PM
- silkyjohnson
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Damn! RIP Mr Cotto
Jan 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM
- phiLthyphiL
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Wladimir Klitschko is supposedly hittin Hayden Panettiere's guts.
You think they swordfight?
You think they swordfight?