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Raheem Morris, Defensive Coordinator, SF 49ers

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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
if raheem gets another hc offer, i really doubt it will happen next offseason. i think he's safe here for awhile

We need him for at least two seasons, but I hope he stays for a lot longer than that.
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best thing to happen to us in a long time. Dude is a keeper
I hope he continues to do well for us the rest of the season.
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He was asked at today's press conference if he wanted to be a head coach again, he basically - in a sense - said yes (in a roundabout way). So i hope nobody gives him one - i dont want to lose this guy. Kyle apparently feels the same way.
Originally posted by Giedi:
He was asked at today's press conference if he wanted to be a head coach again, he basically - in a sense - said yes (in a roundabout way). So i hope nobody gives him one - i dont want to lose this guy. Kyle apparently feels the same way.

It's much harder to keep a good OC or DC now because the new type of owners are impatient and have so much money they don't mind firing a HC that still has 3 or 4 years left on their contract. To these guys it's play money. Every year there are at least a half dozen HC openings.
Brock about dc:

"For the most part, man, he made me have to play aggressive, and I appreciated that. I actually think that's translated into the season for me to throw with that," Purdy said. "So it's a big credit to Raheem."
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Brock about dc:

"For the most part, man, he made me have to play aggressive, and I appreciated that. I actually think that's translated into the season for me to throw with that," Purdy said. "So it's a big credit to Raheem."

Tellin ya, better than saleh, just wait till bosa comes back
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Tellin ya, better than saleh, just wait till bosa comes back

Yeah best one since Dco
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It's much harder to keep a good OC or DC now because the new type of owners are impatient and have so much money they don't mind firing a HC that still has 3 or 4 years left on their contract. To these guys it's play money. Every year there are at least a half dozen HC openings.

It's not just that, it's also the fact that you are weakening another team doing so. It's kind of like a team signing a player they don't really need but doing so he isn't going to play for a competitor.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Giedi:
He was asked at today's press conference if he wanted to be a head coach again, he basically - in a sense - said yes (in a roundabout way). So i hope nobody gives him one - i dont want to lose this guy. Kyle apparently feels the same way.

It's much harder to keep a good OC or DC now because the new type of owners are impatient and have so much money they don't mind firing a HC that still has 3 or 4 years left on their contract. To these guys it's play money. Every year there are at least a half dozen HC openings.

Well my hope is the Spagnuolo situation. Spag's has won a ton of Superbowls with Fat Andy, but he's still a DC. I hope it's the same with Raheem.

Raheem's been a bit better HC than Spagnuolo, but not by much. I hope that locks Raheem with Kyle for a long time. Hope hope!
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Giedi:
He was asked at today's press conference if he wanted to be a head coach again, he basically - in a sense - said yes (in a roundabout way). So i hope nobody gives him one - i dont want to lose this guy. Kyle apparently feels the same way.

It's much harder to keep a good OC or DC now because the new type of owners are impatient and have so much money they don't mind firing a HC that still has 3 or 4 years left on their contract. To these guys it's play money. Every year there are at least a half dozen HC openings.

Well my hope is the Spagnuolo situation. Spag's has won a ton of Superbowls with Fat Andy, but he's still a DC. I hope it's the same with Raheem.

Raheem's been a bit better HC than Spagnuolo, but not by much. I hope that locks Raheem with Kyle for a long time. Hope hope!

Spags is 66 and no longer a viable HC candidate. Morris at 50 isn't a kid but he's still young enough for another HC job.
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
I will always love Saleh, but Raheem has been incredible imo. Way better.

Agree 💯 % and I've always hated the Wide 9 as a base defense. I think Raheem is much more balanced and has more coverage and front 7 alignment variety than Saleh. Eberflus helping Raheem draft Linebackers, we'll finally have a complete defense at every level, Dline, LB's, and DB's. With Raheem, we potentially can have a defense that can confuse an elite QB like Patrick the Kermit.

Like everything on defense, there are pros and cons to every scheme. With the league using more 2 high safety looks, interior gap scheme runs are back. Wide9 doesn't handle interior runs well unless you have two stud DTs, not easy to acquire. Moving away from being exclusively wide9 had to happen to adjust to current run schemes.

So far, Morris seems to run a scheme defense as opposed to an execution defense. Meaning he will adjust his scheme to best counter this week's opposing offense. As opposed to, 'this is the one thing we do, we do it at a high level, we do it every week'.

Agree, Morris is more of a scheme defense versus a execution defense. I think it mirrors Kyle's offense. The OLinemen in Kyle's offense can gap or zone block. In Raheem's defense the varied front enables him to stop the run or cover the pass. The five man front goes into a 4-3 zone if Duggar or Height drop into coverage. At the same time, a four man line becomes five man box if Dugger or Height line up on the LOS in run defense. Now all the run gaps are covered, in a sense. He likes to hide the coverages and move the fronts right after the protection calls and before the QB snaps the ball. I love that about this defense - the Fever backer is almost utilized like the old Seifert Elephant defender - moved around and used to screw up the pass coverages and OLine pass protections. What Raheem needs is that hybrid Safety/Linebacker - Stout is the perfect guy from a mentality and athletic standpoint, but he's just physically too small to line up on the LOS and take on Tight Ends and Guards as a run defender. John Lynch (in Monte Kiffen's Tampa Two) and to a certain extent Nick Emanwori does that in MacDonald's defense.

Morris isnt bound to one scheme is he? He seems to adjust as needed, which you both already hinted at. I do think run defense is suspect, but no team has really stubbornly tried to run it all game yet, perhaps because we often have a lead.

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Too early to tell

You're not wrong, but I am loving what I am seeing so far. But I can play devil's advocate - let's see how we do second round against the Rams and Seahawks after a half season plus of film etc. That's fair.

Yes sir! I think we are headed in the right direction.
I would not worry too much about some other team swooping in to steal RM. He's had two chances: Tampa Bay and Atlanta. Flopped at both. One winning season out of six. Plus, that one winning season did not result in a playoff berth. Otherwise, his teams have performed poorly, especially on the offensive side of the ball.

HC's that specialize in defense come with one big problem. They need an OC. A good OC. Once the good OC leaves, it's trouble. Look no further than the SheHaggots. The defense is still there, but the offense is lost. Darnold looks like he's playing for the Jets again. That team has zero run game. They have one great WR. But, take him away, and the SheHaggots are sunk.
Originally posted by All22:
I think a lot of teams are moving towards Offensive Head Coaches who call plays so teams don't hire away your OC and screw up your QB's development.

And if a team wanted to hire a defensive HC this year they'd go for Brian Flores (minus the nasty legal stuff happening now). That defense is on pace to be the best defense since 1993.

As a fan of football, I hate the offensive explosion that happened. It used to be a big deal to throw for 3500, 4000 yards. Hope Minnesota keeps it up ( except against us ).
I like what he is doing with the defense. I like the formations and keeping the o line guessing if it 4 or 5 man rush. I like how he moves Jaden Dugger rounds the line. How he moves the LB around to make a 4 and 5 man front. Is this a 5 or 4 man rush ?? His style of defense is more to my liking . I hope he can make adjustment as needed to keep defense playing well.
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