Trade Deadline - Tues. Nov 4th

Based on Lynch's interview this morning, I am not sure now if they are going to do another trade unless the person fits into a two year plan, this and next. I think they really feel they need to keep their draft picks, develop young talent, get some players back from injury and IF they can get an end that is good and fits into the plan and do so at a minimum take (not a 1st or 2nd) then they may do something. I don't think they get Hendrickson because I don't think he fits into their long term plans. They are trying to stay competitive and at the same time retool. I do feel Lynch is working it though and we'll see in the next few days what happens. If we don't see something by tomorrow, then it will be Monday or Tuesday IF anything happens.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by okdkid:
There is no deal for Hendrickson that makes sense without an extension.

You think they were thinking that when they traded for Chase Young in 2023?

Hard say but completely different circumstances,that version of the 49ers was completely healthy and primed to make a run to bad the DC sucked.

If you believe some of the rumors from Russinni, Fowler and Graziano about the 9ers and Cowboys being interested in Hendrickson, then it's not hard to say.

Also think there's a difference between giving up a 2nd vs a comp 3rd. You're talking a top 64 pick vs a pick around 100. Also best case Young crushes it and they get a 3rd rd comp pick a yr later.

I agree with okdkid that an extension is likely tied to a trade, which probably lowers his trade value. Cinci can't honestly think they're going anywhere this yr and we all know they aren't resigning him.

Originally posted by okdkid:
There is no deal for Hendrickson that makes sense without an extension.

Unless it's for a 3rd or less. Because we would at least get a 2027 comp pick back.

But if it's for a 2nd or more (which is probably more in line with what the Bengals would want) then yes an extension is needed I agree. Punting a 2026 2nd into a late 2027 3rd for a rental is not a good idea.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by okdkid:
There is no deal for Hendrickson that makes sense without an extension.

You think they were thinking that when they traded for Chase Young in 2023?

Hard say but completely different circumstances,that version of the 49ers was completely healthy and primed to make a run to bad the DC sucked.

If you believe some of the rumors from Russinni, Fowler and Graziano about the 9ers and Cowboys being interested in Hendrickson, then it's not hard to say.

Also think there's a difference between giving up a 2nd vs a comp 3rd. You're talking a top 64 pick vs a pick around 100. Also best case Young crushes it and they get a 3rd rd comp pick a yr later.

I agree with okdkid that an extension is likely tied to a trade, which probably lowers his trade value. Cinci can't honestly think they're going anywhere this yr and we all know they aren't resigning him.

But some keep saying that we can't afford to extend him. That would be a whole lot of cap going to him and Bosa; we have enough cap space on the bench already lol

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Based on Lynch's interview this morning, I am not sure now if they are going to do another trade unless the person fits into a two year plan, this and next. I think they really feel they need to keep their draft picks, develop young talent, get some players back from injury and IF they can get an end that is good and fits into the plan and do so at a minimum take (not a 1st or 2nd) then they may do something. I don't think they get Hendrickson because I don't think he fits into their long term plans. They are trying to stay competitive and at the same time retool. I do feel Lynch is working it though and we'll see in the next few days what happens. If we don't see something by tomorrow, then it will be Monday or Tuesday IF anything happens.

Lynch pretty much just said basic common sense stuff.

You don't trade premium draft capital for a rental, unless that rental increases your odds of winning the Super Bowl by at least 15% (IMHO, Hendrickson moves us from a 3% chance of winning the Super Bowl to about 5%, which is so obviously not worth a 1st or 2nd).

To trade a 1st or 2nd for a player only signed for this season without any extension would be dumb and anyone with even a little bit of understanding of how things work agrees.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
But some keep saying that we can't afford to extend him. That would be a whole lot of cap going to him and Bosa; we have enough cap space on the bench already lol

I mean they can always move around cap space if they really want too

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Based on Lynch's interview this morning, I am not sure now if they are going to do another trade unless the person fits into a two year plan, this and next. I think they really feel they need to keep their draft picks, develop young talent, get some players back from injury and IF they can get an end that is good and fits into the plan and do so at a minimum take (not a 1st or 2nd) then they may do something. I don't think they get Hendrickson because I don't think he fits into their long term plans. They are trying to stay competitive and at the same time retool. I do feel Lynch is working it though and we'll see in the next few days what happens. If we don't see something by tomorrow, then it will be Monday or Tuesday IF anything happens.

Yeah, Huff and Hung close to returning, they seem very satisfied with the pass rush, especially with new additions White and Ferrell

If anything, it would be in the best interest to get some LB help because even if healthy, that position is barely above average (at best) and one major injury is all it will take to decimate the unit completely. Full safety is another major concern

It couldn't hurt to see what Lucas can do in practice or in a series of a real game, he's played safety before. Maybe get Nick Martin in those safety practices and watch film... they got Brown doing some hybrid stuff, but Martin is bigger and faster so, perhaps try him out in practice is all I'm saying. I hope they shuffle players around to find the best outcome and/or just sign a legit FS already

Article reiterates what we've all been saying in here already, the narrative / our needs shouldn't be ignored
https://clutchpoints.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/3-last-minute-trades-49ers-before-2025-nfl-trade-deadline

If we trade for AND extend Hendrickson, it's almost a guarantee we would have to trade away someone. Whether it's Bosa or Aiyuk IDK, but someone would have to be traded. You can't fit Hendrickson's $36M 2026 franchise tag in without doing a trade, let alone a whole brand new extension.

QW or Simmons' contracts you could get creative and fit the $20M 2026 salary in somehow. Hendrickson you can't.

The Hendrickson talk is just that…..talk. We all know that it isn't going to happen

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by okdkid:
There is no deal for Hendrickson that makes sense without an extension.

You think they were thinking that when they traded for Chase Young in 2023?

Hard say but completely different circumstances,that version of the 49ers was completely healthy and primed to make a run to bad the DC sucked.

If you believe some of the rumors from Russinni, Fowler and Graziano about the 9ers and Cowboys being interested in Hendrickson, then it's not hard to say.

Also think there's a difference between giving up a 2nd vs a comp 3rd. You're talking a top 64 pick vs a pick around 100. Also best case Young crushes it and they get a 3rd rd comp pick a yr later.

I agree with okdkid that an extension is likely tied to a trade, which probably lowers his trade value. Cinci can't honestly think they're going anywhere this yr and we all know they aren't resigning him.

When it's all said and done I really don't think Cincy will get a 2nd for him. Maybe two 3rd round picks but I doubt a 2nd.

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Based on Lynch's interview this morning, I am not sure now if they are going to do another trade unless the person fits into a two year plan, this and next. I think they really feel they need to keep their draft picks, develop young talent, get some players back from injury and IF they can get an end that is good and fits into the plan and do so at a minimum take (not a 1st or 2nd) then they may do something. I don't think they get Hendrickson because I don't think he fits into their long term plans. They are trying to stay competitive and at the same time retool. I do feel Lynch is working it though and we'll see in the next few days what happens. If we don't see something by tomorrow, then it will be Monday or Tuesday IF anything happens.

Yeah, Huff and Hung close to returning, they seem very satisfied with the pass rush, especially with new additions White and Ferrell

If anything, it would be in the best interest to get some LB help because even if healthy, that position is barely above average (at best) and one major injury is all it will take to decimate the unit completely. Full safety is another major concern

It couldn't hurt to see what Lucas can do in practice or in a series of a real game, he's played safety before. Maybe get Nick Martin in those safety practices and watch film... they got Brown doing some hybrid stuff, but Martin is bigger and faster so, perhaps try him out in practice is all I'm saying. I hope they shuffle players around to find the best outcome and/or just sign a legit FS already

Article reiterates what we've all been saying in here already, the narrative / our needs shouldn't be ignored
https://clutchpoints.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/3-last-minute-trades-49ers-before-2025-nfl-trade-deadline

Been hearing that the Giants may be willing to trade Evan Neil. In my happy little dream land we trade for him.

Originally posted by 49ers808:
The Hendrickson talk is just that…..talk. We all know that it isn't going to happen

I'm glad it's all talk (too expensive / complicated) adding him could handcuff us from making other (solid players, not just back ups) moves... we have at least 3 positions to fill in order to be real contenders in the playoff. Niners already helped themselves by getting solid depth on the D line (White and Ferrell).

They seriously need to consider LB (we/re one injury away from mediocrity) and a ball hawking safety (offenses aren't afraid of throwing into 49ers' coverage). Adding another O linemen to the PS would be nice and Evan Neal is a former first rounder (6'7 340) who played OT and Guard. Maybe the game in NY can also turn out to be a formal business meeting

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by okdkid:
There is no deal for Hendrickson that makes sense without an extension.

You think they were thinking that when they traded for Chase Young in 2023?

Not the same.

The 49ers can only trade their 1st, 2nd, 3rd picks in 2026. Their R4/R5 pick is tied up in the Bryce Huff trade due to it being either a R4 or R5 depending on performance.

Their other R4 picks are comp picks - can't trade those yet because they are not assigned.

The R6 pick is gone in the BRob trade. The other R6 pick is gone in the Keion White trade.

The R7 pick is gone in the Khalil Davis trade. The other R7 pick is conditional based on if White plays 7 games.

We have way less draft capital for 2026 than people think.

This is why I would say trade JJ now and get whatever you can. There won't be any interest to resign him, both sides know that.

Originally posted by Cosmo:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Originally posted by AJinUT:
Based on Lynch's interview this morning, I am not sure now if they are going to do another trade unless the person fits into a two year plan, this and next. I think they really feel they need to keep their draft picks, develop young talent, get some players back from injury and IF they can get an end that is good and fits into the plan and do so at a minimum take (not a 1st or 2nd) then they may do something. I don't think they get Hendrickson because I don't think he fits into their long term plans. They are trying to stay competitive and at the same time retool. I do feel Lynch is working it though and we'll see in the next few days what happens. If we don't see something by tomorrow, then it will be Monday or Tuesday IF anything happens.

Yeah, Huff and Hung close to returning, they seem very satisfied with the pass rush, especially with new additions White and Ferrell

If anything, it would be in the best interest to get some LB help because even if healthy, that position is barely above average (at best) and one major injury is all it will take to decimate the unit completely. Full safety is another major concern

It couldn't hurt to see what Lucas can do in practice or in a series of a real game, he's played safety before. Maybe get Nick Martin in those safety practices and watch film... they got Brown doing some hybrid stuff, but Martin is bigger and faster so, perhaps try him out in practice is all I'm saying. I hope they shuffle players around to find the best outcome and/or just sign a legit FS already

Article reiterates what we've all been saying in here already, the narrative / our needs shouldn't be ignored
https://clutchpoints.com/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/3-last-minute-trades-49ers-before-2025-nfl-trade-deadline

Been hearing that the Giants may be willing to trade Evan Neil. In my happy little dream land we trade for him.

NY turned him into a bust imo

I think he can be resurrected here. It won't be hard to compete with Barford, Pleasants, Colby and even Bartch for back up duty, he could be decent for us. The dude is a specimen (6'7 340). Perhaps Foerster and hanging with Trent could do him a solid.

They just got Andre Dillard (OT) back on the practice squad, he's another former 1st rounder with good size...