49ers @ Raiders Preseason Saturday August 16

Originally posted by GorefullBore:

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

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I cant identify the scrub OL who got bulldozed backwards and injured our 2nd best OL...

It looks like Isaac Alarcon.

... who is only on the team to make the NFL happy and was never going to make the team.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm hoping the 9ers trade for a DT or a decent one gets cut. They can't go into the season with what they have now.

I think they probably do go into the season with what they have now. West, Collins, Davis, Valdez. And the most likely to be replaced is Davis who is okay if he can stay healthy. No way they let West or Collins go, and Valdez won't make it to the PS.

The only positions where the coaches are not being expected to create performance from unknowns are QB and TE and maybe OL (Bartch?). WR, RB, DL, LB, CB, and S all are going to require significant contributions from rookie or 2nd year players.

Yup. Honestly in starting to wonder if the 49ers went into a deep defensive line draft and somehow managed to come out of that with no starters. Collins looks terrible, West looks mediocre at best, and nobody knows what Williams will do because he's always injured. It looks bad so far.

Did I miss something? They're rookies for one so it's not like they're gonna look like Aaron Donald yet. West has looked very good before he got injured and Collins showed, I think, a lot of improvement yesterday. Mykel has looked quite good too. What am I missing?

I with you man. Some people...no patience.

Sometimes I think some fans have never watched pre season football before. Pre season games have never been a barometer of how good the regular season will go. Now with only 3 games and starters barely playing they're even less of a factor.

I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm hoping the 9ers trade for a DT or a decent one gets cut. They can't go into the season with what they have now.

I think they probably do go into the season with what they have now. West, Collins, Davis, Valdez. And the most likely to be replaced is Davis who is okay if he can stay healthy. No way they let West or Collins go, and Valdez won't make it to the PS.

The only positions where the coaches are not being expected to create performance from unknowns are QB and TE and maybe OL (Bartch?). WR, RB, DL, LB, CB, and S all are going to require significant contributions from rookie or 2nd year players.

Yup. Honestly in starting to wonder if the 49ers went into a deep defensive line draft and somehow managed to come out of that with no starters. Collins looks terrible, West looks mediocre at best, and nobody knows what Williams will do because he's always injured. It looks bad so far.

Did I miss something? They're rookies for one so it's not like they're gonna look like Aaron Donald yet. West has looked very good before he got injured and Collins showed, I think, a lot of improvement yesterday. Mykel has looked quite good too. What am I missing?

I with you man. Some people...no patience.

Sometimes I think some fans have never watched pre season football before. Pre season games have never been a barometer of how good the regular season will go. Now with only 3 games and starters barely playing they're even less of a factor.

I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

Originally posted by Scoots:
I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

I'm calling bullcrap to this post. I had season tickets from BW's first season. I sat in the stands and I can verify that DeBerg was not liked by the fans. Just good enough to lose. I don't know where you got the "Joe was a wasted pick" thing from but I was there and never, not once heard that.

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm hoping the 9ers trade for a DT or a decent one gets cut. They can't go into the season with what they have now.

I think they probably do go into the season with what they have now. West, Collins, Davis, Valdez. And the most likely to be replaced is Davis who is okay if he can stay healthy. No way they let West or Collins go, and Valdez won't make it to the PS.

The only positions where the coaches are not being expected to create performance from unknowns are QB and TE and maybe OL (Bartch?). WR, RB, DL, LB, CB, and S all are going to require significant contributions from rookie or 2nd year players.

Yup. Honestly in starting to wonder if the 49ers went into a deep defensive line draft and somehow managed to come out of that with no starters. Collins looks terrible, West looks mediocre at best, and nobody knows what Williams will do because he's always injured. It looks bad so far.

Did I miss something? They're rookies for one so it's not like they're gonna look like Aaron Donald yet. West has looked very good before he got injured and Collins showed, I think, a lot of improvement yesterday. Mykel has looked quite good too. What am I missing?

I with you man. Some people...no patience.

Sometimes I think some fans have never watched pre season football before. Pre season games have never been a barometer of how good the regular season will go. Now with only 3 games and starters barely playing they're even less of a factor.

I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

Originally posted by Scoots:
I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

I'm calling bullcrap to this post. I had season tickets from BW's first season. I sat in the stands and I can verify that DeBerg was not liked by the fans. Just good enough to lose. I don't know where you got the "Joe was a wasted pick" thing from but I was there and never, not once heard that.

Okay. I did. Some people loved DeBerg.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm hoping the 9ers trade for a DT or a decent one gets cut. They can't go into the season with what they have now.

I think they probably do go into the season with what they have now. West, Collins, Davis, Valdez. And the most likely to be replaced is Davis who is okay if he can stay healthy. No way they let West or Collins go, and Valdez won't make it to the PS.

The only positions where the coaches are not being expected to create performance from unknowns are QB and TE and maybe OL (Bartch?). WR, RB, DL, LB, CB, and S all are going to require significant contributions from rookie or 2nd year players.

Yup. Honestly in starting to wonder if the 49ers went into a deep defensive line draft and somehow managed to come out of that with no starters. Collins looks terrible, West looks mediocre at best, and nobody knows what Williams will do because he's always injured. It looks bad so far.

Did I miss something? They're rookies for one so it's not like they're gonna look like Aaron Donald yet. West has looked very good before he got injured and Collins showed, I think, a lot of improvement yesterday. Mykel has looked quite good too. What am I missing?

I with you man. Some people...no patience.

Sometimes I think some fans have never watched pre season football before. Pre season games have never been a barometer of how good the regular season will go. Now with only 3 games and starters barely playing they're even less of a factor.

I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

Originally posted by Scoots:
I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

I'm calling bullcrap to this post. I had season tickets from BW's first season. I sat in the stands and I can verify that DeBerg was not liked by the fans. Just good enough to lose. I don't know where you got the "Joe was a wasted pick" thing from but I was there and never, not once heard that.

Okay. I did. Some people loved DeBerg.

I remember folks being cautiously optimistic about the pick after the bowl game he won with Norte dame. DeBerg was not liked so we wanted change.

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm hoping the 9ers trade for a DT or a decent one gets cut. They can't go into the season with what they have now.

I think they probably do go into the season with what they have now. West, Collins, Davis, Valdez. And the most likely to be replaced is Davis who is okay if he can stay healthy. No way they let West or Collins go, and Valdez won't make it to the PS.

The only positions where the coaches are not being expected to create performance from unknowns are QB and TE and maybe OL (Bartch?). WR, RB, DL, LB, CB, and S all are going to require significant contributions from rookie or 2nd year players.

Yup. Honestly in starting to wonder if the 49ers went into a deep defensive line draft and somehow managed to come out of that with no starters. Collins looks terrible, West looks mediocre at best, and nobody knows what Williams will do because he's always injured. It looks bad so far.

Did I miss something? They're rookies for one so it's not like they're gonna look like Aaron Donald yet. West has looked very good before he got injured and Collins showed, I think, a lot of improvement yesterday. Mykel has looked quite good too. What am I missing?

I with you man. Some people...no patience.

Sometimes I think some fans have never watched pre season football before. Pre season games have never been a barometer of how good the regular season will go. Now with only 3 games and starters barely playing they're even less of a factor.

I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

Originally posted by Scoots:
I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

I'm calling bullcrap to this post. I had season tickets from BW's first season. I sat in the stands and I can verify that DeBerg was not liked by the fans. Just good enough to lose. I don't know where you got the "Joe was a wasted pick" thing from but I was there and never, not once heard that.

Okay. I did. Some people loved DeBerg.

I remember folks being cautiously optimistic about the pick after the bowl game he won with Norte dame. DeBerg was not liked so we wanted change.

Yeah, I was hopeful for sure. I think people these days don't realize back then rookie QBs almost never started. That said Joe struggled on a terrible team even coming off the bench. I still marvel that 1981 team won a ring.

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:

Originally posted by raywm3:

Originally posted by bzborow1:

Originally posted by Scoots:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I'm hoping the 9ers trade for a DT or a decent one gets cut. They can't go into the season with what they have now.

I think they probably do go into the season with what they have now. West, Collins, Davis, Valdez. And the most likely to be replaced is Davis who is okay if he can stay healthy. No way they let West or Collins go, and Valdez won't make it to the PS.

The only positions where the coaches are not being expected to create performance from unknowns are QB and TE and maybe OL (Bartch?). WR, RB, DL, LB, CB, and S all are going to require significant contributions from rookie or 2nd year players.

Yup. Honestly in starting to wonder if the 49ers went into a deep defensive line draft and somehow managed to come out of that with no starters. Collins looks terrible, West looks mediocre at best, and nobody knows what Williams will do because he's always injured. It looks bad so far.

Did I miss something? They're rookies for one so it's not like they're gonna look like Aaron Donald yet. West has looked very good before he got injured and Collins showed, I think, a lot of improvement yesterday. Mykel has looked quite good too. What am I missing?

I with you man. Some people...no patience.

Sometimes I think some fans have never watched pre season football before. Pre season games have never been a barometer of how good the regular season will go. Now with only 3 games and starters barely playing they're even less of a factor.

I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

Originally posted by Scoots:
I remember calls for that punk Joe to stop getting snaps because he was clearly a wasted pick and should be left on the bench for Steve DeBerg.

I'm calling bullcrap to this post. I had season tickets from BW's first season. I sat in the stands and I can verify that DeBerg was not liked by the fans. Just good enough to lose. I don't know where you got the "Joe was a wasted pick" thing from but I was there and never, not once heard that.

Okay. I did. Some people loved DeBerg.

I remember folks being cautiously optimistic about the pick after the bowl game he won with Norte dame. DeBerg was not liked so we wanted change.

Yeah, I was hopeful for sure. I think people these days don't realize back then rookie QBs almost never started. That said Joe struggled on a terrible team even coming off the bench. I still marvel that 1981 team won a ring.

The 28-pt comeback against the Saints in the previous season was a precursor......then the '81 draft and Bill Walsh willing to go with a talented but extremely young secondary really paid off......along with some unsung key players on the DL/OL. The regular season game against Dallas when they just absolutely obliterated the Cowboys was music to the ears of many '49er faithful fans......then topped off with the NFCCG and Super Bowl XVI. Montana was the quintessential fit for what Walsh wanted from the West Coast offense. And he had that intangible that few QB's had.....showed it several times in his last two years @ Notre Dame as some have stated......despite not having what some experts think from a physical/metrics standpoint. His toughness sometimes gets overlooked.....and he got beat up a lot (like many QB's ) those days.......has back surgery and is back playing in something like eight weeks???? Yep.

Niner fans better find a hobby this fall and winter because this roster has more holes then swiss cheese. Its embarrassing.

Originally posted by 49erBrodie70:
The 28-pt comeback against the Saints in the previous season was a precursor......then the '81 draft and Bill Walsh willing to go with a talented but extremely young secondary really paid off......along with some unsung key players on the DL/OL. The regular season game against Dallas when they just absolutely obliterated the Cowboys was music to the ears of many '49er faithful fans......then topped off with the NFCCG and Super Bowl XVI. Montana was the quintessential fit for what Walsh wanted from the West Coast offense. And he had that intangible that few QB's had.....showed it several times in his last two years @ Notre Dame as some have stated......despite not having what some experts think from a physical/metrics standpoint. His toughness sometimes gets overlooked.....and he got beat up a lot (like many QB's ) those days.......has back surgery and is back playing in something like eight weeks???? Yep.

3 rookies and a guy who was a clerk at a health food store as the starting defensive backfield. Keena Turner, and Jim Stuckey in their 2nd year. Jack Reynolds to teach them how to care about the game, and Fred Dean added for the 6th game of the season and got 12 sacks in 11 games.

There were 2 all time players on that team who were not all timers yet, a bunch of good kids who didn't know how good they could be, and a bunch of just plain guys. But they won it all because they didn't know any better.

Dan Audick was the starting LT. That was the only season in his career where he started the season as a starter, the only season he was a left tackle, and he started every game and won a super bowl ... as a 6'3" 250lb left tackle.

That team won because Bill Walsh and Joe Montana fooled the entire NFL.

Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Niner fans better find a hobby this fall and winter because this roster has more holes then swiss cheese. Its embarrassing.

have fun. Meanwhile, Vegas still gives 49ers best odds to win the division

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/event/nfl-2025-26---nfc-west/348a5c85-e470-4611-a934-08dd5bf74192

Originally posted by BP13:
have fun. Meanwhile, Vegas still gives 49ers best odds to win the division

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/event/nfl-2025-26---nfc-west/348a5c85-e470-4611-a934-08dd5bf74192

Horrendous value. If only there was a reason…

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Horrendous value. If only there was a reason…

I still take the Niners top end talent over any team in the league. Plus I have serious doubts about Stafford making it through the season. Or even halfway through the season.

Originally posted by JTB1974:
I still take the Niners top end talent over any team in the league. Plus I have serious doubts about Stafford making it through the season. Or even halfway through the season.

I'm not sure what you mean honestly. We have 4-5 players that are arguably at or near the top of their positions… if that's your point I wouldn't disagree.