What is your SF 2025 draft grade?

The O line class sucked. Banks went at #9 and he's no more a NFL left tackle than I am. He's going to get destroyed if he plays left tackle in the NFL. Go watch the film. He's a guard in my opinion.

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Originally posted by genus49:
I personally stop caring about draft grades cuz of so many instances where teams get A+ grades and the class ends up being junk and vice versa.

I have my favorites and like most fans I'm influenced by the so called "consensus" draft boards so when we take players we're constantly seeing drafted rounds later it will impact the view on the draft class.

I feel like we definitely did that again this year, especially in the 3rd. However I really love the mentality and versatility of most of the guys we drafted and while some of them aren't who I would've liked and I 100% wanted us to invest in OL a lot earlier than we did. I also have a hard time disliking this class. We clearly needed to infuse talent on defense and we definitely did that.

And I think similar to how last year I wasn't a huge fan of Pearsall in the first but once we got visibility on the whole draft it was great overall. I think it's like that this year.

Adding the big bodies in Mykel, Collins and West up front will make things much easier for the smaller guys we'll have behind them which was my concern for Martin, Stout and Sigle.

Adding beef that can still make plays up front with speed who can make plays behind them is a good way to get the defense back to helping us seal games vs helping us blow them.

Excited to see the competitions at camp. Just praying we stay healthy this season…

This is my biggest frustration, let's look at the 3rd pick #75 Nick Martin. At #77 NE traded the pick to the Panthers for #85 & # 146. Does anyone really think Nick would not have made it 12 more picks ? We could have made that trade, which I I'm sure Carolina would do because they would have gained 2 extra spots. We could still draft Nick and gained #146. Which by the way was used on Bradyn Swinson, a player a lot of guys here liked.

↑↑↑ This.... Drives me insane just how dismissive this regime is with their picks. Okay, I get it. They have their own board which doesn't align with the "experts". But my god, trade down! Get extra picks and guess what?? Those reaches will still be there!! It's almost irresponsible. * I know, I know, how can I be sure those guys will still be there? Well I guess is it really that big a loss if once in a blue moon the 4th round reach actually gets snagged by another team in return for the pile of extra picks they would acquire with the trade downs?

When you say "a player a lot of guys here liked." A lot of guys is referring to us fans which let's be honest we know almost nothing about scouting talent if we did we'd be doing that for a living. Whether their right or wrong, NFL scouting departments know much more than us. It goes deeper than what we see on film. That said, a true grade won't be known for a couple years.

You're right they may not have wanted that player, but it doesn't negate the fact that they did not maximize that draft spot.
They could've used that pic to trade up or trade back or flip it for an extra pic next year. I'm just trying to point out that the trade New England made was not hypothetical, It actually happened and there are opportunities out there to maximize your pics.

The massive assumption you're making is that other teams weren't also high on these guys. You can't use mock consensus to assume that's the information other teams are basing their decisions on. It's an exercise of futility to call any player a reach when you can't get inside every team's war room.

I have no grade on this draft since I haven't seen them play on this team in the NFL. Eveeryone seems eager to say it was grerat or a bust when we just don't know yet. The feeling is you can't really evaluate a draft until year 2 or 3. Yet we see all these supposed experts handing out their grades instread of waiting to see hiw they do. About all you cn say at this point is did the team try to address weaknesses. I say they did but even then we need to see if the players turn out to be what they expect.

In my view our drafting has taken a very significant step upwards last year and this year. Not sure if the scouting has changed or the draft management has improved, or what. Much better, though.

I have no expertise to know when players should have been drafted. I didn't talk to the players, didn't get paid to scout these players, etc. What I've heard is that generally this is a great year for defensive tackle prospects. If that is true, then if you look at roster building as a multi-year process then maybe it makes sense to come out of this draft getting your pick of the great defensive tackle pool. Perhaps next year will have better offensive line prospects. If this draft is a success this year then the 49ers are going to stop the run, something they couldn't do last year.

Originally posted by WildBill:

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by m_brockalexander:
C+. Whole draft was driven by need to fix defense against the run and special teams. Did not draft best player available anywhere in the draft, period. Drafted guys who fit their system regardless of value. Lots of prospects with potential but no slam dunk stars that I can see. Ignored the needs at OT and C again.

That's weird, at the top you complain that there was no BPA (which I agree with) as we reached for needs, but then at the end you complain they didn't go for their needs at OT and C! Pick a lane!

BPA according to who? Many of them have never run a run office.

Also, BPA according to what? If you base on NFL. COM, Mykel was the best edge. Were there better pass rushers? Yes, but one had an issue and ended up dropping then there are others who look good in college, but don't pan out and the opposite holds true, low numbers but become great pros.

I especially find it laughable when people say it's about the value. I don't care about that, if they turn out to be an above average to great pro, it's mute pt.

What does "run a run office" mean? And, it will be a "moot" point if these guys become great pros.

Mykel Williams was the best run defender at edge last year, but only had 5 sacks. How does that make him the "best edge" overall?

According to the Dane Brugler's ratings, Nick Martin was ranked 199th and he was drafted at pick 75. Upton Stout was ranked 204th and he was drafted at pick 100. Jordan Watkins was ranked 233rd and he was drafted at pick 138. No matter how you slice it, these three players could have been had long after the Niners picked them.

Originally posted by English:
In my view our drafting has taken a very significant step upwards last year and this year. Not sure if the scouting has changed or the draft management has improved, or what. Much better, though.

Adam Peters left.

the Peter fanboys will be coming for me

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Originally posted by bzborow1:
I have no expertise to know when players should have been drafted. I didn't talk to the players, didn't get paid to scout these players, etc. What I've heard is that generally this is a great year for defensive tackle prospects. If that is true, then if you look at roster building as a multi-year process then maybe it makes sense to come out of this draft getting your pick of the great defensive tackle pool. Perhaps next year will have better offensive line prospects. If this draft is a success this year then the 49ers are going to stop the run, something they couldn't do last year.

You know we should all step back and think about this. The only thing we have and the draft experts we read/listen to have is the tape. None of us have access to the medicals. None of us sat in during the interviews. There's a lot of off field issues that we just don't know about. The NFL teams know all of that and that is why you see players fall or get picked early. We are missing a big part of the puzzle.

D - we failed to address the kicker

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Originally posted by bzborow1:
I have no expertise to know when players should have been drafted. I didn't talk to the players, didn't get paid to scout these players, etc. What I've heard is that generally this is a great year for defensive tackle prospects. If that is true, then if you look at roster building as a multi-year process then maybe it makes sense to come out of this draft getting your pick of the great defensive tackle pool. Perhaps next year will have better offensive line prospects. If this draft is a success this year then the 49ers are going to stop the run, something they couldn't do last year.

You know we should all step back and think about this. The only thing we have and the draft experts we read/listen to have is the tape. None of us have access to the medicals. None of us sat in during the interviews. There's a lot of off field issues that we just don't know about. The NFL teams know all of that and that is why you see players fall or get picked early. We are missing a big part of the puzzle.

Most of the grades come from expectations comparing the actual draft position against mocks and big boards generated by people working outside of the NFL who do not have access to a substantial amount of information. I think Guy Haberman reported that the 49ers only had a little over 200 prospects listed as draftable. Medicals, character, and scheme fit result in excluding many players from their board. We can't know if these players end up working out, but they stuck and drafted 11 players, did not trade up for Shanny's offensive crush, took some guys who seem to fit their scheme, and addressed their biggest glaring need - their inability to stop the run.

Originally posted by ninersporvida:
D - we failed to address the kicker

We did.

A, in terms of filling the biggest needs with the best scheme and team fit player available. We won't know how these players will turn out but will get a good idea who rises to the top during camp. The d-line won't be flashy, but should be solid against the run. I suspect we'll have to simulate pressure to get to the QB because Bosa will be the only player on the d-line who can generate consistent pressure. I'll be happy if we rank in low teens against the run.

I see early starters in Williams, Collins, Martin and West. Watkins, Colby and Sigle and Stout should see some playing time. Watkins will be a project as Kyle can be tough on young recievers. Bergen has a chance to be our only true return man since Gin and Rourke was just a thrown away pick IMHO.
A- or B+
I loved this Dlineman class and would have been ok with drafting 4 but we got 3 studs.

F+. Just like every other year. At least they tried.

A

my only critique is they shoulda taken 1-2 more dlinemen