49ers select Alfred Collins-DT-Texas with the 43rd pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Chargers third-round selection Jamaree Caldwell led all rookie IDL (min. 25 RDEF snaps) this preseason in both run defense grade and run stop rate. pic.twitter.com/fDC4FNQ597

— Tyler Schoon (@tylerjschoon) August 24, 2025

Ugh

To be fair if we drafted Caldwell in the 2nd round people would throw a fit and rightfully so.

As opposed to drafting a player who can't get the proper pad level or has no motor.

Do you do anything on here but stir up crap or complain and prematurely call players busts?

Caldwell was a player most liked but doubt anyone here including NY or you would've been happy seeing him drafted 43rd overall.

So what's the point of bringing him up when talking about Collins? Who once again…isn't a finished product.out

Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

Str up s**t? As opposed to your rosy approach.

You can develop a motor? Good luck with that at 350 lbs.
To be honest just stuff the run and consume blocks for Bosa and Huff.
The point here isn't about development, its about a false perception of draft value. It will not matter in 3 years if its a reach or not if the players pan's out.

The guy literally just started getting into football shape just a few weeks ago. Let's see how he looks halfway through the season before making assumptions about his motor.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Chargers third-round selection Jamaree Caldwell led all rookie IDL (min. 25 RDEF snaps) this preseason in both run defense grade and run stop rate. pic.twitter.com/fDC4FNQ597

— Tyler Schoon (@tylerjschoon) August 24, 2025

Ugh

To be fair if we drafted Caldwell in the 2nd round people would throw a fit and rightfully so.

As opposed to drafting a player who can't get the proper pad level or has no motor.

Do you do anything on here but stir up crap or complain and prematurely call players busts?

Caldwell was a player most liked but doubt anyone here including NY or you would've been happy seeing him drafted 43rd overall.

So what's the point of bringing him up when talking about Collins? Who once again…isn't a finished product.out

Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

Str up s**t? As opposed to your rosy approach.

You can develop a motor? Good luck with that at 350 lbs.
To be honest just stuff the run and consume blocks for Bosa and Huff.
The point here isn't about development, its about a false perception of draft value. It will not matter in 3 years if its a reach or not if the players pan's out.

The guy literally just started getting into football shape just a few weeks ago. Let's see how he looks halfway through the season before making assumptions about his motor.

It's actually in his college scouting report and is showing up in camp an preseason

Originally posted by genus49:
Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

A large part of the backlash is we don't have time to let him develop we need a run stuffing DT now. That's the one thing we need/drafted him to do is just hold down the middle and he's getting blown up he's a straight liability right now.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:
The guy literally just started getting into football shape just a few weeks ago. Let's see how he looks halfway through the season before making assumptions about his motor.

Dude shows effort he doesn't give up on plays, he'll chase down a RB running to the sideline but his stamina doesn't look good right now

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:
The guy literally just started getting into football shape just a few weeks ago. Let's see how he looks halfway through the season before making assumptions about his motor.

Dude shows effort he doesn't give up on plays, he'll chase down a RB running to the sideline but his stamina doesn't look good right now

Oops

Originally posted by genus49:
Do you do anything on here but stir up crap or complain and prematurely call players busts?

Caldwell was a player most liked but doubt anyone here including NY or you would've been happy seeing him drafted 43rd overall.

So what's the point of bringing him up when talking about Collins? Who once again…isn't a finished product.

Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

The point is they could have taken him a rd later and still got a damn good run stopper.

I'm not calling Collins a bust, I'm saying if it's about stopping the run get a Caldwell or West LATER in the draft.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by genus49:
Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

A large part of the backlash is we don't have time to let him develop we need a run stuffing DT now. That's the one thing we need/drafted him to do is just hold down the middle and he's getting blown up he's a straight liability right now.

IMO he looks slow and plays high… Feel like he needs to lose some weight and figure out how to play with better pad level.

They could have taken his teammate Broughton or Caldwell later imo.

Sometimes when you're that tall and big it's a bad combo as a DL.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
IMO he looks slow and plays high… Feel like he needs to lose some weight and figure out how to play with better pad level.

They could have taken his teammate Broughton or Caldwell later imo.

Sometimes when you're that tall and big it's a bad combo as a DL.

Yep, there are concerns with Collins. The problem is the 49ers, when they were on the clock at 43, didn't KNOW who was going to be available after the 44th pick let alone the 150 picks after that. They took the highest rated guy on their board who was actually dominant in college and has a ton of potential, but they knew would take a lot of work.

Originally posted by Scoots:
Yep, there are concerns with Collins. The problem is the 49ers, when they were on the clock at 43, didn't KNOW who was going to be available after the 44th pick let alone the 150 picks after that. They took the highest rated guy on their board who was actually dominant in college and has a ton of potential, but they knew would take a lot of work.

He was dominant in a different scheme and not as a pass rusher. Will it take time for him to adapt to this scheme, sure. When you have nothing as a proven vet in front of him to allow him time, that's an issue. Overall he hasn't look great and I expect someone who's "dominant" vs the run to have that show up in preseason vs backup caliber talent. Regardless of scheme.

people act like they have zero clue when players are going and imo that's kinda BS. Like I mentioned before they had a 3rd on Kittle, but knew they could get him in the 5th. They have a ton of people whose job is to dissect the draft and where guys are projected to go...they talk to all the agents (who talk to all the teams). There's rough round about grades. SF overall has poo pooped that and reached consistently. Overall those players haven't panned out, hopefully some guys like Collins/martin etc can change that trend.

in a draft flush with DT talent, they dropped the ball a little imo. Hopefully he can at least do what he did in college and imo if that's his impact…it's still not with a top 43 pick.

Originally posted by TD49ers:
Str up s**t? As opposed to your rosy approach.

You can develop a motor? Good luck with that at 350 lbs.
To be honest just stuff the run and consume blocks for Bosa and Huff.
The point here isn't about development, its about a false perception of draft value. It will not matter in 3 years if its a reach or not if the players pan's out.

Rosy approach of not calling rookies busts before they even play in a real game? Sure.

There were also several plays where Collins was hustling down the field as best as he could at least.

In 3 years you'd have a case. Now you're just stirring things up...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:
Do you do anything on here but stir up crap or complain and prematurely call players busts?

Caldwell was a player most liked but doubt anyone here including NY or you would've been happy seeing him drafted 43rd overall.

So what's the point of bringing him up when talking about Collins? Who once again…isn't a finished product.

Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

The point is they could have taken him a rd later and still got a damn good run stopper.

I'm not calling Collins a bust, I'm saying if it's about stopping the run get a Caldwell or West LATER in the draft.

That's fair but I was simply pointing out that he went where he went for a reason. Obviously the 49ers see more from Collins. Can he get there is another question all together. Personally I was hoping TJ Sanders would drop to us...damn Bills.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Chargers third-round selection Jamaree Caldwell led all rookie IDL (min. 25 RDEF snaps) this preseason in both run defense grade and run stop rate. pic.twitter.com/fDC4FNQ597

— Tyler Schoon (@tylerjschoon) August 24, 2025

Ugh

To be fair if we drafted Caldwell in the 2nd round people would throw a fit and rightfully so.

As opposed to drafting a player who can't get the proper pad level or has no motor.

Do you do anything on here but stir up crap or complain and prematurely call players busts?

Caldwell was a player most liked but doubt anyone here including NY or you would've been happy seeing him drafted 43rd overall.

So what's the point of bringing him up when talking about Collins? Who once again…isn't a finished product.out

Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

Str up s**t? As opposed to your rosy approach.

You can develop a motor? Good luck with that at 350 lbs.
To be honest just stuff the run and consume blocks for Bosa and Huff.
The point here isn't about development, its about a false perception of draft value. It will not matter in 3 years if its a reach or not if the players pan's out.

The guy literally just started getting into football shape just a few weeks ago. Let's see how he looks halfway through the season before making assumptions about his motor.

It's actually in his college scouting report and is showing up in camp an preseason

What reports? This is from NFL.com

First sentence in the summary - Collins isn't going to stand out in one particular area, but he plays hard and has outstanding physical traits to blend right into an NFL defensive rotation

Originally posted by Since07:
Idk if by "nothing" you mean he did nothing dude got blown up again against the raiders getting pushed back 5 yards opening giant holes up the middle

I watched the Raiders OL destroy the Cards DL. Just straight up mushed them. They look to be legit.

Would be low key hilarious if Pete finally put together a proper OL after leaving Seattle.

Originally posted by swoosh6996:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Chargers third-round selection Jamaree Caldwell led all rookie IDL (min. 25 RDEF snaps) this preseason in both run defense grade and run stop rate. pic.twitter.com/fDC4FNQ597

— Tyler Schoon (@tylerjschoon) August 24, 2025

Ugh

To be fair if we drafted Caldwell in the 2nd round people would throw a fit and rightfully so.

As opposed to drafting a player who can't get the proper pad level or has no motor.

Do you do anything on here but stir up crap or complain and prematurely call players busts?

Caldwell was a player most liked but doubt anyone here including NY or you would've been happy seeing him drafted 43rd overall.

So what's the point of bringing him up when talking about Collins? Who once again…isn't a finished product.out

Collins wasn't my preferred pick at 43 but how about we wait and see what happens first? Oh wait guys aren't allowed to develop.

Str up s**t? As opposed to your rosy approach.

You can develop a motor? Good luck with that at 350 lbs.
To be honest just stuff the run and consume blocks for Bosa and Huff.
The point here isn't about development, its about a false perception of draft value. It will not matter in 3 years if its a reach or not if the players pan's out.

The guy literally just started getting into football shape just a few weeks ago. Let's see how he looks halfway through the season before making assumptions about his motor.

Yes, this isn't the first time that a highly rated college player arrives in the pros without a pro level of fitness. To make matters worse, he lost a lot of time due to injury. We may not see 2nd round talent from him until next year, based on what appears to be his fitness level now. In the meantime, he will be in the rotation and give fans lots to talk about.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
He was dominant in a different scheme and not as a pass rusher. Will it take time for him to adapt to this scheme, sure. When you have nothing as a proven vet in front of him to allow him time, that's an issue. Overall he hasn't look great and I expect someone who's "dominant" vs the run to have that show up in preseason vs backup caliber talent. Regardless of scheme.

people act like they have zero clue when players are going and imo that's kinda BS. Like I mentioned before they had a 3rd on Kittle, but knew they could get him in the 5th. They have a ton of people whose job is to dissect the draft and where guys are projected to go...they talk to all the agents (who talk to all the teams). There's rough round about grades. SF overall has poo pooped that and reached consistently. Overall those players haven't panned out, hopefully some guys like Collins/martin etc can change that trend.

in a draft flush with DT talent, they dropped the ball a little imo. Hopefully he can at least do what he did in college and imo if that's his impact…it's still not with a top 43 pick.

Agree with everything.

And people might get mad at me for saying this; especially DL guys (sorry Hero) but all this scheme stuff is getting overblown IMO. Such a freaking cop out man. Beat the man in front of you. That applies to any DLinemen in any scheme; and Collins is struggling with that in 1 V 1, forget even talking double teams.