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49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

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Originally posted by scooterhd:
People wanted Harmon and he did fall in the 20s. Look, this is a draft void of alot of blue chippers. There was no trading back in the middle of the round. 0 trades from 5 to 25. Teams stayed put and largely selected from a big tier of guys starting at about pick 7.

I bet most teams had Mykel, Stewart, Walker, Pearce, Nolen, Grant, Harmon closely rated. Between 11 and 17 you have 5 DL or edge players taken. Your'e picking your favorite of the bunch based on need, defensive philosophy etc. Bengals want a DE with weight because they have Mr Henry twice a year. Falcons were 31st in sacks last year and were looking for production. They have their reasons. But theres no doubt Mykel was worthy of being selected in the 8-20 range IMO.

That is what makes this draft so interesting, and rather unique from past years. Good if you are not a QB.
It's a bummer Kelvin Banks was injured for the SEC championship. He did his job though and beat up on the back up like a top prospect should.
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
He's a solid pick. Williams fills a huge area of need at a premium position. His measurables are comparable to the best ends in the game. His work ethic is top notch and he's considered a leader in the locker room. He's great against the run which is key when you're facing Philadelphia and Washington. Questions about the injury and whether the lack of production was about the injury or the play. Ultimately, he's a powerful, high motor guy with what you're looking for in a prospect. I like him more than I like Shemar Stewart.

The lack of production was a little about the injury but mostly about Georgia being stacked on the Dline so they had a rotation which limited his snaps. I like the pick!

This is what drinking the Kool-aid looks like. That's one explanation, another is that he's just not that good at rushing the passer. We shall see, but I for one have stopped just assuming that they're right.

You call it drinking Kool-aid, other people call it rational thought...

It's a nicer place to be, but I'm done doing it, Kinlaw was one I did it for, even though I wanted to keep Buck, I drank the Kool-aid. No longer.

Could Mykel become Aldon Smith? I highly doubt it, could Jalon Walker become Parsons? I doubt that either, but I know which I think is more likely and won't be swayed just because it's what the regime thinks. We'll see what happens on the field.

This is not about Kool-aid. If you look at the guys that were mentioned being picked at 11, Stewart, Graham, Nolen they all had low production when you simply look at numbers. I'm looking at how their game translates to the NFL and Williams game looks good. You have to be able to stop the run first and he's excellent at that.

I don't care at all about numbers, I watched a player on his own team who I think is a better player and a better pass rusher. I don't care that he wouldn't have been able to set the edge on base downs as a full time end. I'd have found other work for him.

They might be right, I've just stopped automatically assuming that they are.
Love this pick.

All the mock draft simulations I did and going EDGE at #11 (and usually with Williams) the draft turned out much better than DT at #11.
The more I see the more I really like him, looking forward to seeing him gorw and I think he could be an All-Pro in time.
Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
Love this pick.

All the mock draft simulations I did and going EDGE at #11 (and usually with Williams) the draft turned out much better than DT at #11.

yessir. that's the logic. DT is deep, and you can find DT day 2 and day 3. good luck getting a edge with off the charts potential later in the draft.
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
He's a solid pick. Williams fills a huge area of need at a premium position. His measurables are comparable to the best ends in the game. His work ethic is top notch and he's considered a leader in the locker room. He's great against the run which is key when you're facing Philadelphia and Washington. Questions about the injury and whether the lack of production was about the injury or the play. Ultimately, he's a powerful, high motor guy with what you're looking for in a prospect. I like him more than I like Shemar Stewart.

The lack of production was a little about the injury but mostly about Georgia being stacked on the Dline so they had a rotation which limited his snaps. I like the pick!

This is what drinking the Kool-aid looks like. That's one explanation, another is that he's just not that good at rushing the passer. We shall see, but I for one have stopped just assuming that they're right.

You call it drinking Kool-aid, other people call it rational thought...

It's a nicer place to be, but I'm done doing it, Kinlaw was one I did it for, even though I wanted to keep Buck, I drank the Kool-aid. No longer.

Could Mykel become Aldon Smith? I highly doubt it, could Jalon Walker become Parsons? I doubt that either, but I know which I think is more likely and won't be swayed just because it's what the regime thinks. We'll see what happens on the field.

This is not about Kool-aid. If you look at the guys that were mentioned being picked at 11, Stewart, Graham, Nolen they all had low production when you simply look at numbers. I'm looking at how their game translates to the NFL and Williams game looks good. You have to be able to stop the run first and he's excellent at that.

I don't care at all about numbers, I watched a player on his own team who I think is a better player and a better pass rusher. I don't care that he wouldn't have been able to set the edge on base downs as a full time end. I'd have found other work for him.

They might be right, I've just stopped automatically assuming that they are.

I disagree that Walker was a better player. Both are very very close, just depends on what your looking for. Pass rusher, Walker. Run stopper, Williams. Personally I would of taken either Nolen or Harmon, I think plugging up the middle is more valuable than setting the edge. I still like the pick though, he fills one of our many needs. Now we have to get a DT in the 3rd, I think they go OT in second.
[ Edited by Oscar8325 on Apr 25, 2025 at 11:43 AM ]
Good pick. Every pick has a chance to bust no matter who your picking. Theres a lot to like with this one, good player, great size, very young, good coaches... so all in all i think is def. enough to get this guy.
My biggest concern about having a bunch of rookies on the d line this upcoming season is that they wouldn't be able to stop the run - so it was a sigh of relief for me that Williams is very good at that. That was my biggest concern.

if we can have a couple rookies with pass rush potential but good run stoppers, coupled with Bosa, Yetur etc to help add pass rush potential, that's decent. You can only ask so much from a young inexperienced d line.

im eager to see who we take in the second and third today. It wouldn't surprise me if we trade up to secure a DT we want/love.

keep the run stoppers coming!
Originally posted by tankle104:
My biggest concern about having a bunch of rookies on the d line this upcoming season is that they wouldn't be able to stop the run - so it was a sigh of relief for me that Williams is very good at that. That was my biggest concern.

if we can have a couple rookies with pass rush potential but good run stoppers, coupled with Bosa, Yetur etc to help add pass rush potential, that's decent. You can only ask so much from a young inexperienced d line.

im eager to see who we take in the second and third today. It wouldn't surprise me if we trade up to secure a DT we want/love.

keep the run stoppers coming!

i agree on the need for run stuff. our IDL is not good at all. i wouldn't bank on run stuff from rooks. at best these guys can rotate in and see the field and get snaps. i do see some additions as we go forward. we'll find some vet FAs. i remember we got gip in august and he was a multi year starter at DB. we need something like that at DT. teams eventually will have to pare down their rosters. also clubs kinda waited for the draft to make moves, post draft there will be some more moves.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
My biggest concern about having a bunch of rookies on the d line this upcoming season is that they wouldn't be able to stop the run - so it was a sigh of relief for me that Williams is very good at that. That was my biggest concern.

if we can have a couple rookies with pass rush potential but good run stoppers, coupled with Bosa, Yetur etc to help add pass rush potential, that's decent. You can only ask so much from a young inexperienced d line.

im eager to see who we take in the second and third today. It wouldn't surprise me if we trade up to secure a DT we want/love.

keep the run stoppers coming!

i agree on the need for run stuff. our IDL is not good at all. i wouldn't bank on run stuff from rooks. at best these guys can rotate in and see the field and get snaps. i do see some additions as we go forward. we'll find some vet FAs. i remember we got gip in august and he was a multi year starter at DB. we need something like that at DT. teams eventually will have to pare down their rosters. also clubs kinda waited for the draft to make moves, post draft there will be some more moves.

I'd rather keep him outside but lynch said one of the things he like was they think he can play inside or outside.
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
It's a bummer Kelvin Banks was injured for the SEC championship. He did his job though and beat up on the back up like a top prospect should.

Good thing we saw Mykel play against Banks earlier in the season when Banks was perfectly healthy and Mykel was playing on a high ankle sprain.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
My biggest concern about having a bunch of rookies on the d line this upcoming season is that they wouldn't be able to stop the run - so it was a sigh of relief for me that Williams is very good at that. That was my biggest concern.

if we can have a couple rookies with pass rush potential but good run stoppers, coupled with Bosa, Yetur etc to help add pass rush potential, that's decent. You can only ask so much from a young inexperienced d line.

im eager to see who we take in the second and third today. It wouldn't surprise me if we trade up to secure a DT we want/love.

keep the run stoppers coming!

i agree on the need for run stuff. our IDL is not good at all. i wouldn't bank on run stuff from rooks. at best these guys can rotate in and see the field and get snaps. i do see some additions as we go forward. we'll find some vet FAs. i remember we got gip in august and he was a multi year starter at DB. we need something like that at DT. teams eventually will have to pare down their rosters. also clubs kinda waited for the draft to make moves, post draft there will be some more moves.

Yeah I'm hoping that some vets are released or traded here post draft or/and June 1. We could really use a solid vet at the DT to help groom these guys and prepare them. I don't love the idea of a bunch of youngsters in the DL room teaching each other - bosa can only do so much, IMO.

lets hope today has some home run hits!
Originally posted by Since07:
I'd rather keep him outside but lynch said one of the things he like was they think he can play inside or outside.

I think it's a plus that Williams can move to the interior on unique packages - think like Bosa on the outside and Williams lined up next to him to gobble up guys or run defense, while we have someone at opposite end to stop run and gobble up guys so our LBs can eat.

I hope they don't play Williams too much out of his natural position out of need, but I think it's good that he can move around and help with different packages.
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erBigMac:
Originally posted by Oscar8325:
Originally posted by bzborow1:
He's a solid pick. Williams fills a huge area of need at a premium position. His measurables are comparable to the best ends in the game. His work ethic is top notch and he's considered a leader in the locker room. He's great against the run which is key when you're facing Philadelphia and Washington. Questions about the injury and whether the lack of production was about the injury or the play. Ultimately, he's a powerful, high motor guy with what you're looking for in a prospect. I like him more than I like Shemar Stewart.

The lack of production was a little about the injury but mostly about Georgia being stacked on the Dline so they had a rotation which limited his snaps. I like the pick!

This is what drinking the Kool-aid looks like. That's one explanation, another is that he's just not that good at rushing the passer. We shall see, but I for one have stopped just assuming that they're right.

You call it drinking Kool-aid, other people call it rational thought...

It's a nicer place to be, but I'm done doing it, Kinlaw was one I did it for, even though I wanted to keep Buck, I drank the Kool-aid. No longer.

Could Mykel become Aldon Smith? I highly doubt it, could Jalon Walker become Parsons? I doubt that either, but I know which I think is more likely and won't be swayed just because it's what the regime thinks. We'll see what happens on the field.

This is not about Kool-aid. If you look at the guys that were mentioned being picked at 11, Stewart, Graham, Nolen they all had low production when you simply look at numbers. I'm looking at how their game translates to the NFL and Williams game looks good. You have to be able to stop the run first and he's excellent at that.

I don't care at all about numbers, I watched a player on his own team who I think is a better player and a better pass rusher. I don't care that he wouldn't have been able to set the edge on base downs as a full time end. I'd have found other work for him.

They might be right, I've just stopped automatically assuming that they are.

I disagree that Walker was a better player. Both are very very close, just depends on what your looking for. Pass rusher, Walker. Run stopper, Williams. Personally I would of taken either Nolen or Harmon, I think plugging up the middle is more valuable than setting the edge. I still like the pick though, he fills one of our many needs. Now we have to get a DT in the 3rd, I think they go OT in second.

Agree that DT is still a big need, I'd have paid the Giants price to get up for Harmon, but wouldn't have paid the Falcons one, it's difficult.
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