49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by genus49:
Some of you guys overrate sack production in college to absurd levels. I still remember when people were trying to knock Bosa because he couldn't hit double digit sacks in college.

College, especially top schools like Georgia use heavy rotations for their players because of all the commits they have. You can't add all these 5* and 4* recruits and then play them 5% of the snaps. They share the load.

Williams led them in sacks as an 18 year old true freshman on a National Championship squad. You have to be realistic about your expectations.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
So what is the main issue for this guy to make him drop to 11?

Is it just his sack total and injury history?

I can think of an obvious one...scheme fit. If you run a 4-3 and 4-3 wide 9, he's almost perfect for an edge setter/pass rusher DE. If not, you're probably not gonna draft him any where higher with other guys more deserving. Although, Shanahan and Lynch thought he would go before #11, so there was at least 1 other team that fits.

#11 is considered a drop? wow

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Which category will he fall in?

Thomas
Foster
Mcglinchey
Lance
Kinlaw

Bosa
Aiyuk

Bosa was a no brainer. Lynch has missed on quite a bit. Anyone else would be fired from their job based on the above. We shall see about williams, but lynch does not deserve anyone's trust at this point.

How was McGlinchey a bad pick? He got a massive contract from another team. I also won't hold their very first picks against them because everyone was still learning on the job with little experience running a draft. They've grown a ton since their first year and I don't think that Lance pick ever happens if the country wasn't going through turmoil and screwed up the entire draft. The only pick that was a complete reach was Kinlaw, and he just signed a big contract with a contender.

Y'all criticize this front office draft selections way too much.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
Anytime you have to make excuses about a first round pick, why he didn't do something…. That's not your guy. Pass.

Nobody is making excuses. Georgia is not the place to go if you want to rack up gaudy stats as a DL. Travon Walker never had more than 6 in a season in college. He's been at double digits back to back in the NFL. Jalen Carter never had more than 3. They rotate guys a ton and someone like Williams was playing inside the tackles shoulder a good amount of the time.

What the 49ers are getting is a high motor player who just does not stop attacking and at 20 years old is already a very elite run defender in the best conference in college football with a lot of room for further physical and skill development.

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
So what is the main issue for this guy to make him drop to 11?

Is it just his sack total and injury history?

I can think of an obvious one...scheme fit. If you run a 4-3 and 4-3 wide 9, he's almost perfect for an edge setter/pass rusher DE. If not, you're probably not gonna draft him any where higher with other guys more deserving. Although, Shanahan and Lynch thought he would go before #11, so there was at least 1 other team that fits.

#11 is considered a drop? wow

Considering even Lynch tried to trade up to get him, even they thought he dropped some. Yes its a very small drop but a highly talented player that can get after the QB could easily go top 5.

Originally posted by Nastastical:
Add Danielle Hunter and JJ Watt to that list. I'm never doubting guys who have insane physical measurable and play with a relentless motor. Those types usually succeed with good coaching to help them put everything together in the pros.

Hunter is a good example. He had a max of three sacks in college while at LSU. Has nearly 100 sacks in the NFL.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Nastastical:
Add Danielle Hunter and JJ Watt to that list. I'm never doubting guys who have insane physical measurable and play with a relentless motor. Those types usually succeed with good coaching to help them put everything together in the pros.

Hunter is a good example. He had a max of three sacks in college while at LSU. Has nearly 100 sacks in the NFL.

I also forgot about JPP. The list is very long.

I don't understand how anyone can be upset with us drafting this 20 year old kid because he's probably one of the safest picks in the draft. He has a very high floor because of his run defense and if he reaches his ceiling as a pass rusher, he's a future all-pro.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Feels like a panic pick to fill a need.

Total reach

My analysis shows the niners coulda gotten him in the 3rd round

😂😂😂 your analysis needs work.

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Tbh my skepticism comes from wondering if this staff can actually get the most out of him. They don't have a great resume for developing edges. They played AA at edge and it was always half assed imo. The moment he was back inside they were improved etc. let's hope we hit a home run here.

This staff has developed multiple defensive linemen in their tenure here. It's not only guys that we drafted that have gone on to have better careers after spending some time with Kris Kocurek and Saleh.

I wish they would develop the guys still on the team.

Originally posted by babarvaart:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Completely disagree. He will be an elite run defender day 1. That's his floor.

Yes a 3 down player at 20 years old is useful already, if he improves his pass rush he'll be more than worth pick 11.

This is why it's 50/50, an edge setting run defender is not good enough at #11 regardless of how much we need it. He needs to become a bookend pass rusher or this was a wasted pick.

If they had choosed Walter Nolen, they would say that he was a headcase.
Derrick Harmon, injury concern and why was he not as good with Michigan State.
Shemar Stewart, where's the production?
Jalon Walker, undersized and tweener. Not a three downs player.
Will Johnson, is he fast? Injury prone.
Kenneth Grant, can he rush the passer?
A receiver? They should have drafted a DL or OL.
Grey Zabel, it's a giant reach! AGAIN!

The reality is that whomever the Niners would have drafted, the usual crybabies would have been angry.
The funny thing being that those guys aren't the ones you would find on the draft section of the forum.
They're not the guys that watched those players and yet they're still angry. What a boring life seriously.
Let's see this kid play a little bit. He has a solid floor and actually he's not a low ceiling player.
Oh and spoiler alert, yes he's not gonna be Rookie Nick Bosa next season and that's ok.

Originally posted by pdc20:
If they had choosed Walter Nolen, they would say that he was a headcase.
Derrick Harmon, injury concern and why was he not as good with Michigan State.
Shemar Stewart, where's the production?
Jalon Walker, undersized and tweener. Not a three downs player.
Will Johnson, is he fast? Injury prone.
Kenneth Grant, can he rush the passer?
A receiver? They should have drafted a DL or OL.
Grey Zabel, it's a giant reach! AGAIN!

The reality is that whomever the Niners would have drafted, the usual crybabies would have been angry.
The funny thing being that those guys aren't the ones you would find on the draft section of the forum.
They're not the guys that watched those players and yet they're still angry. What a boring life seriously.
Let's see this kid play a little bit. He has a solid floor and actually he's not a low ceiling player.
Oh and spoiler alert, yes he's not gonna be Rookie Nick Bosa next season and that's ok.

Great post

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Feels like a panic pick to fill a need.

Is this the kind of in depth analysis that led you to the Graham= Solomon Thomas comp?

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Feels like a panic pick to fill a need.

Is this the kind of in depth analysis that led you to the Graham= Solomon Thomas comp?

They panicked so hard with their pick at 11 that they tried to trade up to grab the exact same guy earlier.

Originally posted by 49erBigMac:

Originally posted by babarvaart:

Originally posted by JTB1974:
Completely disagree. He will be an elite run defender day 1. That's his floor.

Yes a 3 down player at 20 years old is useful already, if he improves his pass rush he'll be more than worth pick 11.

This is why it's 50/50, an edge setting run defender is not good enough at #11 regardless of how much we need it. He needs to become a bookend pass rusher or this was a wasted pick.

He's already a wrecking ball who collapses the pocket and gets pressures. It's not like he only does one single thing well. He also has elite short-area quickness and agility based on his 10-yard split, which at his size is incredibly impressive. Your claim that it's a coin flip is purely a made up position. Kid is 20 and has work to do, but he's already a great player.