49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bro was regarded as a top 5 pick before he got hurt (and play through it) his last yr at Georgia. I'm sorry but why couldn't a healthy 21yr old get better?

IMO he doesn't have to be some all-pro to justify the pick, especially in that draft. Not every draft is flush with blue chip talent and that draft wasn't.

When they asked him "3rd down in the Superbowl, where do you want us to line you up" his answer? Over the guard.

He knows what he really is. So anyone thinking theres going to be some amazing jump because he was only 20 or now only 21 is fooling themselves.

While I agree he doesn't need to be all pro to justify the pick. I also agree that this is what he is and what he offers shouldn't have been drafted at 11.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by krizay:
I do. Because he showed us exactly what we saw 3 years at Georgia.

Sometimes these players really are what they show you they are.

I know you love looking at age and assume these big leaps. But sometimes they are what they show you they are.

Bro was regarded as a top 5 pick before he got hurt (and play through it) his last yr at Georgia. I'm sorry but why couldn't a healthy 21yr old get better?

IMO he doesn't have to be some all-pro to justify the pick, especially in that draft. Not every draft is flush with blue chip talent and that draft wasn't.

Yes, that draft was a little funny where we picked, I think there were other players we would have considered if it were not for some type of red flags or concerns associated with them. I liked Walter Nolan, and I still think if he stays on the field, he will be a more dynamic player, but with his concerns, I could see why we did not pick him and went with a safer pick of Williams. We just cannot afford to miss on these early picks and I think Williams will end up being a very solid if not spectacular player for us.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Mykel wasn't flashy but he was impressive. He has a lot to improve upon but did some extremely impressive things, things that don't really show up on a stat sheet.

people that knock him for not having a bunch of sacks, while not giving him credit for the stuff he did very well for a rookie - tells me that some people don't understand the depth of football.

i can't wait for this guy to get cleared and I hope this injury doesn't set him back too much. Such a bright future if he can stay on his grind

What did he do when he played that we couldn't get out of a 4th round pick?

We took a guy with the 11th overall pick to set the edge on D.

This regime is so bad at drafting it's not even funny.

Why do you judge a draft pick after 10 games? Do you really think they only drafted him to set the edge? They drafted him to set the edge in year 1 and to develop him as a pass rusher based on his potential. But i know you know this and that doesnt fit your narrative.

Maybe we should have taken Pearce who had a good rookie season but will spend the next few years in and out of jail. But at least he'd have 10 sacks his rookie year!!! Surely you wouldn't be one to complain after this weekend's episode.

It's because it wasn't his guy…he thinks he's the ultimate draft evaluator.

Pot, meet kettle

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by miked1978:

Originally posted by Sask49erFan:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Mykel wasn't flashy but he was impressive. He has a lot to improve upon but did some extremely impressive things, things that don't really show up on a stat sheet.

people that knock him for not having a bunch of sacks, while not giving him credit for the stuff he did very well for a rookie - tells me that some people don't understand the depth of football.

i can't wait for this guy to get cleared and I hope this injury doesn't set him back too much. Such a bright future if he can stay on his grind

What did he do when he played that we couldn't get out of a 4th round pick?

We took a guy with the 11th overall pick to set the edge on D.

This regime is so bad at drafting it's not even funny.

Why do you judge a draft pick after 10 games? Do you really think they only drafted him to set the edge? They drafted him to set the edge in year 1 and to develop him as a pass rusher based on his potential. But i know you know this and that doesnt fit your narrative.

Maybe we should have taken Pearce who had a good rookie season but will spend the next few years in and out of jail. But at least he'd have 10 sacks his rookie year!!! Surely you wouldn't be one to complain after this weekend's episode.

It's because it wasn't his guy…he thinks he's the ultimate draft evaluator.

💯

Originally posted by krizay:
When they asked him "3rd down in the Superbowl, where do you want us to line you up" his answer? Over the guard.

He knows what he really is. So anyone thinking theres going to be some amazing jump because he was only 20 or now only 21 is fooling themselves.

While I agree he doesn't need to be all pro to justify the pick. I also agree that this is what he is and what he offers shouldn't have been drafted at 11.

And what's the problem if he becomes our 3 tech on passing downs? That's a super valuable position in this defense.

Clearly that's what the plan was for him when they drafted him. They've always valued having that big end on base downs that can set the edge and can be pushed inside (or lineup whatever). I mean if turns into a AA like player that a great damn pick.

folks gotta realize every draft isn't equal. One yr you might have a dozen high end talents chalk full of all-pros at the top. IMO that draft wasn't full of that…good players that will be in the league for a while. Not a bunch of all-pros.

Originally posted by Oilcan:
Yes, that draft was a little funny where we picked, I think there were other players we would have considered if it were not for some type of red flags or concerns associated with them. I liked Walter Nolan, and I still think if he stays on the field, he will be a more dynamic player, but with his concerns, I could see why we did not pick him and went with a safer pick of Williams. We just cannot afford to miss on these early picks and I think Williams will end up being a very solid if not spectacular player for us.

Nolen was my final pick and who I wanted. I was also a fan of Williams.

If Williams turns into a AA type talent, that's damn good given the talent in that draft.

Originally posted by Koldo:
Pot, meet kettle

We've all been like that, like I said I've become more humble in my old age

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Oilcan:
Yes, that draft was a little funny where we picked, I think there were other players we would have considered if it were not for some type of red flags or concerns associated with them. I liked Walter Nolan, and I still think if he stays on the field, he will be a more dynamic player, but with his concerns, I could see why we did not pick him and went with a safer pick of Williams. We just cannot afford to miss on these early picks and I think Williams will end up being a very solid if not spectacular player for us.

Nolen was my final pick and who I wanted. I was also a fan of Williams.

If Williams turns into a AA type talent, that's damn good given the talent in that draft.

He's gonna be more versatile and valuable than AA due to his normal/better-than-normal vision and reaction time.

PLUS he is a tree.

Originally posted by krizay:
I do. Because he showed us exactly what we saw 3 years at Georgia.

Sometimes these players really are what they show you they are.

I know you love looking at age and assume these big leaps. But sometimes they are what they show you they are.

This is funny stuff man.

He showed us that he could lead the Georgia National Championship team in sacks as an 18 year old true freshman. He showed us that he was one of the most respected players on that squad. He showed us toughness in his ability to get back from a high ankle sprain where many would've shut it down to protect their draft status - which for Mykel was top 5 pick level heading into that last year.

A 21 year old kid who is eager to learn, gives his all to the sport but needs work on his technique is more likely to grow and develop than guys who are limited athletically and have a cap they hit technique wise. There is no room for growth.

You can put your money on Mykel being nothing but a run stopper. I expect him to prove you wrong but I can give you a list a mile long of guys who didn't pop their first 9 games in the NFL and then ended up making that fanbase thrilled with that pick long term.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bro was regarded as a top 5 pick before he got hurt (and play through it) his last yr at Georgia. I'm sorry but why couldn't a healthy 21yr old get better?

IMO he doesn't have to be some all-pro to justify the pick, especially in that draft. Not every draft is flush with blue chip talent and that draft wasn't.

When they asked him "3rd down in the Superbowl, where do you want us to line you up" his answer? Over the guard.

He knows what he really is. So anyone thinking theres going to be some amazing jump because he was only 20 or now only 21 is fooling themselves.

While I agree he doesn't need to be all pro to justify the pick. I also agree that this is what he is and what he offers shouldn't have been drafted at 11.

Not to say this is the comp but I think of a guy like Richard Seymour, who dominated inside and outside but never had great sack numbers. Granted he's a larger, DT type, but I get the feel that people see DE and if he isnt droppinh 10+ sacks its a waste. Arik Armstead was a great player for us abd he literally only had one season where he got to 10, playing 6 of his 9 seasons mostky outside. I don't see Mykel becoming different than what he is, but I can see a more dominant version. Destroying the run game, blowing OL back into the quarterback and applying constant pressure from multiple positions. Outside of Tyler Warren, I can't see another logical pick given talent and what our needs were and available talent.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:
I do. Because he showed us exactly what we saw 3 years at Georgia.

Sometimes these players really are what they show you they are.

I know you love looking at age and assume these big leaps. But sometimes they are what they show you they are.

This is funny stuff man.

He showed us that he could lead the Georgia National Championship team in sacks as an 18 year old true freshman. He showed us that he was one of the most respected players on that squad. He showed us toughness in his ability to get back from a high ankle sprain where many would've shut it down to protect their draft status - which for Mykel was top 5 pick level heading into that last year.

A 21 year old kid who is eager to learn, gives his all to the sport but needs work on his technique is more likely to grow and develop than guys who are limited athletically and have a cap they hit technique wise. There is no room for growth.

You can put your money on Mykel being nothing but a run stopper. I expect him to prove you wrong but I can give you a list a mile long of guys who didn't pop their first 9 games in the NFL and then ended up making that fanbase thrilled with that pick long term.

Speaking of funny stuff. All the character fluff you threw in here reminds me of the Trey Lance defense. When you have to throw out Age, work ethic and character for a draft pick as your main defense it usually doesn't end well.

He was at a top notch program with top notch coaching. How much did he progress from that 18 year old you're propping up to the 21 year old with eagerness?

He looked the same at 21 as he did at 18. I hope he does prove me wrong. The team needs him to prove me wrong. I dont think he will but that's just my opinion.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Not to say this is the comp but I think of a guy like Richard Seymour, who dominated inside and outside but never had great sack numbers. Granted he's a larger, DT type, but I get the feel that people see DE and if he isnt droppinh 10+ sacks its a waste. Arik Armstead was a great player for us abd he literally only had one season where he got to 10, playing 6 of his 9 seasons mostky outside. I don't see Mykel becoming different than what he is, but I can see a more dominant version. Destroying the run game, blowing OL back into the quarterback and applying constant pressure from multiple positions. Outside of Tyler Warren, I can't see another logical pick given talent and what our needs were and available talent.

I see people keep bringing up Armstead but he was hated here. Called a bust first few years then had a breakout contract year. People loved him. Then we traded Defo and people hated him again because he wasn't Defo.

So we are constantly comping him to a guy who wasn't exactly loved here. For the exact same reason I state for Williams.

Though I will point out the irony that I was one of the few who defended AA and his contributions outside of the sack numbers.

Originally posted by krizay:
Speaking of funny stuff. All the character fluff you threw in here reminds me of the Trey Lance defense. When you have to throw out Age, work ethic and character for a draft pick as your main defense it usually doesn't end well.

He was at a top notch program with top notch coaching. How much did he progress from that 18 year old you're propping up to the 21 year old with eagerness?

He looked the same at 21 as he did at 18. I hope he does prove me wrong. The team needs him to prove me wrong. I dont think he will but that's just my opinion.

I mean you can apply that to Danielle Hunter. Top program 4.5 sacks in 3 yrs there. Baller now.

Go look at another UGA guy in Travon Walker, lacked real production in college and then had two seasons of 10+ sacks in the NFL.

I mean we can go the other direction…a lot of ya'll loved Mike Green, led the nation in sacks. Dude was basically a ghost this yr in Baltimore. Donovan Ezeiruaku second in the nation in sacks, did next to nothing this yr in Dallas.

acting Ike his injury his last yr in UGA didn't play a factor is narrative pushing imo.

for me, I never said he's gonna be the next Aldon Smith, my first comp for him was Jason Pierre-Paul. Not gonna be a blue chip top 5 edge rusher. If healthy will have a long career with a couple 10+ sacks seasons sprinkled in. s**t if he becomes a AA like player, that's a success given that draft.

we will see, I thought he was improving week to week and the knee injury was just another never ending BS story for this team.

Originally posted by krizay:
I see people keep bringing up Armstead but he was hated here. Called a bust first few years then had a breakout contract year. People loved him. Then we traded Defo and people hated him again because he wasn't Defo.

So we are constantly comping him to a guy who wasn't exactly loved here. For the exact same reason I state for Williams.

Though I will point out the irony that I was one of the few who defended AA and his contributions outside of the sack numbers.

Comparing him to a good football player that's about to play his 12th season in the league. No one should be poo pooping that.

fans get all butthurt over players, it's emotional nonsense that lacks objective reality sometimes. AA was a perfect example. When he finally got through his injuries, he was a constant pillar to that DL. Leader of the group who kicked ass vs the run, created pressure that helped others get the sacks and made a ton of money in the process.

I got no problem drafting Williams if he turns into that dirt working DL that makes everyone else around him that much better. He will get his numbers and fans will recognize his worth to this roster (like AA). Not every pick needs to be a Nick Bosa prospect for it to be a successful pick.

He is already top run defender in the league i saw he had one of the highest run stops at the EDGE position.

His strength is his speed to power conversiona nd his length those attributes are not highlighted in a wide 9 scheme where speed and bend are attributes needed to be a better pass rusher. That wasnt his strength buut when we got him last year we wanted an all around DE that could hold the edge because the run game was so poor the prior year.

I think in this new system where he will line up at the 5 or maybe 7 he will have more pressures and see sacks