49ers select Mykel Williams-DE-Georgia with the 11th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

Originally posted by genus49:
Pressures are only given out when defenders beat their blockers. You can get sacks how you claim he's getting his pressures but you can't get pressures.

So what else you got?

False! If a defender eventually pushes the offensive lineman into the path of the QB and the QB has to relocate you get credited for a pressure. These are most of Mykel's pressures.

I should say, from my perspective. Im not an NFL+ guy. Or a PFF premium guy. Watching the games those seem to be the kind of pressures he gets.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Pressures are only given out when defenders beat their blockers. You can get sacks how you claim he's getting his pressures but you can't get pressures.

So what else you got?

False! If a defender eventually pushes the offensive lineman into the path of the QB and the QB has to relocate you get credited for a pressure. These are most of Mykel's pressures.

I should say, from my perspective. Im not an NFL+ guy. Or a PFF premium guy. Watching the games those seem to be the kind of pressures he gets.

That's not what you claimed though. You said most of his pressures are from the QB holding the ball too long. Yes bullrushing the OLman into the QB is still a pressure and a win for the DLMan and loss for the OLman. That's exactly how Nick Bosa won us the game vs Seattle btw...

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Pressures are only given out when defenders beat their blockers. You can get sacks how you claim he's getting his pressures but you can't get pressures.

So what else you got?

False! If a defender eventually pushes the offensive lineman into the path of the QB and the QB has to relocate you get credited for a pressure. These are most of Mykel's pressures.

I should say, from my perspective. Im not an NFL+ guy. Or a PFF premium guy. Watching the games those seem to be the kind of pressures he gets.

That's not what you claimed though. You said most of his pressures are from the QB holding the ball too long. Yes bullrushing the OLman into the QB is still a pressure and a win for the DLMan and loss for the OLman. That's exactly how Nick Bosa won us the game vs Seattle btw...

I know there was a post in this thread or at least on this board about Time to pressure or whatever and Williams was left in the dust by everyone. If i'm not mistaken and seen/remember the chart correctly he was last by a mile in terms of time to pressure. I looked for it and cant find it but again, if I was reading/remembering that chart correctly it's exactly what I see during the games.

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Would be solid if he was a third rd pick

Yeah.. This was just another classic JL DL s**t pick

Given how the board fell, it wasn't a bad pick. The only other guys I liked were OG's, but they usually never go that high so I get it.... Mykel was already making a huge different in the run. The pass rush if at all we knew would come later. He was a logical compliment to Bosa. Hopefully he has a 100% recovery and can hit the ground running next camp.

I would rather have them drafted an OG like Booker over a guy who's only legitimate trait is he can stop the run. At 11 that is insanely high for that. At the very least you're trying to protect your 50Mil investment that way.

I don't disagree, but many also agreed being able to stop the run was the most immediate issue to address. Mykel fits that perfectly. Sure his pass rush needs to improve, but he is an excellent run defender. We will miss that. The idea was him working in concert with Bosa, Huff, Collins, West, etc etc. Unfortunately injuries derailed this season.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
Pressures are only given out when defenders beat their blockers. You can get sacks how you claim he's getting his pressures but you can't get pressures.

So what else you got?

False! If a defender eventually pushes the offensive lineman into the path of the QB and the QB has to relocate you get credited for a pressure. These are most of Mykel's pressures.

I should say, from my perspective. Im not an NFL+ guy. Or a PFF premium guy. Watching the games those seem to be the kind of pressures he gets.

That's not what you claimed though. You said most of his pressures are from the QB holding the ball too long. Yes bullrushing the OLman into the QB is still a pressure and a win for the DLMan and loss for the OLman. That's exactly how Nick Bosa won us the game vs Seattle btw...

I know there was a post in this thread or at least on this board about Time to pressure or whatever and Williams was left in the dust by everyone. If i'm not mistaken and seen/remember the chart correctly he was last by a mile in terms of time to pressure. I looked for it and cant find it but again, if I was reading/remembering that chart correctly it's exactly what I see during the games.

I'm sure you're talking about this one


Here's the problem with that chart...it's one game where matchups, game situations and responsibilities are different than others so it's cool to see but not something you can use to make statements like you're making.

For instance here are some from other games...

Week 1 with Bosa

Here is one where he's the top guy on our DL



Feel free to go through all the games. You'll see that it changes often and he's at the top for several games and ahead of guys like Sam O and Huff in some cases.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/game-center-index

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm sure you're talking about this one


Here's the problem with that chart...it's one game where matchups, game situations and responsibilities are different than others so it's cool to see but not something you can use to make statements like you're making.

For instance here are some from other games...

Week 1 with Bosa

Here is one where he's the top guy on our DL



Feel free to go through all the games. You'll see that it changes often and he's at the top for several games and ahead of guys like Sam O and Huff in some cases.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/game-center-index

this is not what I was talking about

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Mykel Williams final numbers for his rookie season (9 games):

• 20 tackles
• 4 tackles for loss
• 19 pressures
• 1 sack
• 3 quarterback hits
• 53.9 overall defensive grade

Heal up, Mykel 🙏 pic.twitter.com/PbhcVPxYxX

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) November 3, 2025

Not bad for a PROJECT rookie in his first year. He's gonna be a problem

Agreed. Love it that everyone decided to really pile on after he got injured. I believe he did that hand swipe your love so much on the play where he got hurt. I could be wrong

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by genus49:
I'm sure you're talking about this one


Here's the problem with that chart...it's one game where matchups, game situations and responsibilities are different than others so it's cool to see but not something you can use to make statements like you're making.

For instance here are some from other games...

Week 1 with Bosa

Here is one where he's the top guy on our DL



Feel free to go through all the games. You'll see that it changes often and he's at the top for several games and ahead of guys like Sam O and Huff in some cases.

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/game-center-index

this is not what I was talking about

Then find the one you are talking about to back up your assertion

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Mykel Williams final numbers for his rookie season (9 games):

• 20 tackles
• 4 tackles for loss
• 19 pressures
• 1 sack
• 3 quarterback hits
• 53.9 overall defensive grade

Heal up, Mykel 🙏 pic.twitter.com/PbhcVPxYxX

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) November 3, 2025

Not bad for a PROJECT rookie in his first year. He's gonna be a problem

Agreed. Love it that everyone decided to really pile on after he got injured. I believe he did that hand swipe your love so much on the play where he got hurt. I could be wrong

That's Hero who likes the hand swipe. I just like whatever Hero tells me to like.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by pillageDatazz:

Mykel Williams final numbers for his rookie season (9 games):

• 20 tackles
• 4 tackles for loss
• 19 pressures
• 1 sack
• 3 quarterback hits
• 53.9 overall defensive grade

Heal up, Mykel 🙏 pic.twitter.com/PbhcVPxYxX

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) November 3, 2025

Not bad for a PROJECT rookie in his first year. He's gonna be a problem

Agreed. Love it that everyone decided to really pile on after he got injured. I believe he did that hand swipe your love so much on the play where he got hurt. I could be wrong

That's Hero who likes the hand swipe. I just like whatever Hero tells me to like.

Not going to lie I thought I was resounding to hero lol

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:
Underwhelming by whose standards?

Underwhelming given what you would expect from a borderline top 10 pick.

Originally posted by genus49:
3rd most pressures in this rookie class.

3rd most pressures in a poor draft class for pass rushers.

Originally posted by genus49:
Terrific vs the run and helped guys rush the passer around him after turning 21 a month before training camp.

I wouldn't call that hard data.

He wasn't a top 10 pick and who sets the standard for them anyways?

JJ Watt a HOF level stud had 2 sacks in his first 9 games. He finished the season with 5.5 sacks. I'm sure if he got hurt similar to Mykel at that point in his rookie season guys like you would be calling him underwhelming too.

I'm not expecting Mykel to turn into a JJ Watt but the point is how guys start their careers isn't how they finish them. Not everyone comes out like Aldon Smith.

And 3rd most pressures regardless. If you want to look at his sack totals and claim he's not doing anything in the passing game that's simply not accurate.

And you may not call it hard data but anyone who actually watches the trenches play saw his impact and I hope it doesn't show up in us playing without him.

Everyone should stop viewing every draft as the same. Someone taken top 11 in one draft might be a top 25 pick on another. You can only take who's there end of the day regardless of "when" they're taken.

Tossing some blanket statement like he's a top 11 pick so he should be a force is being unserious and blatantly disregarding context. Sure there's expectations but keep s**t real, instead of being a troll about it.

I like Williams, I think as long as he's healthy he's gonna be a quality 3 down player.

I never viewed this draft as top heavy or full of blue chip talent. Most didn't.

the folks crying about sacks ALL thought Abdul Carter was the next Von Miller or whatever, currently sitting there with 1/2 a sack.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Koldo:

Originally posted by genus49:
Underwhelming by whose standards?

Underwhelming given what you would expect from a borderline top 10 pick.

Originally posted by genus49:
3rd most pressures in this rookie class.

3rd most pressures in a poor draft class for pass rushers.

Originally posted by genus49:
Terrific vs the run and helped guys rush the passer around him after turning 21 a month before training camp.

I wouldn't call that hard data.

He wasn't a top 10 pick and who sets the standard for them anyways?

JJ Watt a HOF level stud had 2 sacks in his first 9 games. He finished the season with 5.5 sacks. I'm sure if he got hurt similar to Mykel at that point in his rookie season guys like you would be calling him underwhelming too.

I'm not expecting Mykel to turn into a JJ Watt but the point is how guys start their careers isn't how they finish them. Not everyone comes out like Aldon Smith.

And 3rd most pressures regardless. If you want to look at his sack totals and claim he's not doing anything in the passing game that's simply not accurate.

And you may not call it hard data but anyone who actually watches the trenches play saw his impact and I hope it doesn't show up in us playing without him.

Everyone should stop viewing every draft as the same. Someone taken top 11 in one draft might be a top 25 pick on another. You can only take who's there end of the day regardless of "when" they're taken.

Tossing some blanket statement like he's a top 11 pick so he should be a force is being unserious and blatantly disregarding context. Sure there's expectations but keep s**t real, instead of being a troll about it.

I like Williams, I think as long as he's healthy he's gonna be a quality 3 down player.

I never viewed this draft as top heavy or full of blue chip talent. Most didn't.

the folks crying about sacks ALL thought Abdul Carter was the next Von Miller or whatever, currently sitting there with 1/2 a sack.

Good point. In the end it's not just about the rookie season. Incredibly unfortunate that Mykel got injured that way and won't get to get more development this season as well as the opportunity to work on specific things in the offseason.

However he's still 21. He's a hard working, smart and dedicated young man who has plenty of upside. Whether he reaches that upside or not remains to be seen but him being an almost top 10 pick shouldn't cloud people's opinion on him. Check on him in 5 years and we'll see if he's considered a good pick or not.

Also kind of funny that guys will say he's not worth the pick but then also point out the lack of pass rush from this whole draft class. Well can't have it both ways...

Run defense certain missed him.

Can't believe he is gone just like that. Sucks when it happens to a rookie.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by RidetheHyde:
Would be solid if he was a third rd pick

Yeah.. This was just another classic JL DL s**t pick

Right…like Nick Bosa?

Mykel was a fine pick. Some of you guys clearly have one method of evaluating DLmen and it's stat based.

An injury is a curve ball to his career and development which is terrible but this idea that he was a bad pick is ridiculous and has nothing behind it but simple "he didn't get a lot of sacks tho!"

Lol everyone in the nation knew about Bosa. Hell the Cards were debating taking him at 1. Lynch has yet to have one of his DL picks establish themselves as a legitimate player and he's used a ton of capital on that.