A never too soon look at our 2025 schedule…

Soft schedule.

too bad we'll be playing every team coming off a Bye

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Soft schedule.

too bad we'll be playing every team coming off a Bye

And 4 Thursday games all on the east coast

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by elguapo:
I was thinking the same thing, earlier I was telling my fellow Niner fans that next year we'll get the bye week as long as we are slightly healthy. Not only that we are just like Philadelphia last year. Missing the playoffs with a new defensive coordinator, except they didn't have the injuries we had. Next year is our year to "win the whole f**king thing" as Jake Taylor said in Major league

We win the whole f-ing thing in Santa Clara

This is the way, Brock will give it his damn all to make that happen

Get our team healthy, get some good picks, get rid of the bums and don't shoot thyselves in thy foots.

Get the damn trophy already Shanny

That's right Montana!!! My man!

I hope we don't have a third place schedule because then we will have to play most likely Green Bay, the Cowboys and the Bengals instead of the Giants, the Bears and the Browns. This is very very important. Arizona better not f**k with us. This could mean a buy week next year. I put us in the same boat as what happened to Philadelphia last year. Great players just missed the playoffs.

Originally posted by 49Fever:
Chicago Bears (NFC North last place)
New York Giants (NFC East last place)
Cleveland Browns (AFC North last place)

Pretty big difference ending in last place versus 3rd place for next years schedule. Instead of the Bears, Giants, and Browns we will be playing the Packers, Cowboys, and Bengals...... That is a pretty big swing in difficulty.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Look at the above (however, disagree with the "two meaningless games" comment to start it off - no games are meaningless for this team & it's young guys still developing, the built-up winning culture, etc....realize what you mean, though).

Rebuild this OL and DL (all starts with winning in the trenches)

Get more quality talent at DE/pass rush, LB and in the secondary

Maybe get a new K

Get playmakers healthy (CMC, etc.) and re-sign some key guys (such as Greenlaw - if healthy/if makes sense financially given his health)

Get the best ST coach you can hire - start consistently winning or breaking even in this key 3rd Phase of the game

Hopefully hire some new, better coaches (ST as mentioned, maybe DC - not sold on Sorensen, OL coach, WR)

Shanahan makes some adjustments as necessary (he's a smart football guy & am confident he can rebound and do what's needed in whatever areas...scheme, in-game situational management, etc.)

All of the above may sound like a lot but it's really not. This team, though some of its talent is getting a little older (T. Williams A LOT older - we'll see if he's back), has some of the best & most playoff battle-tested talent in the league. That includes the QB, who has helped guide them to four playoff wins & a SB appearance in only 2 1/2 seasons.

This team will get healthy. Playing in so many additional games in the playoffs over the last five seasons can and will catch up with players re: injuries.

Get healthy along with hopefully some of the above getting done and I'm already looking forward to next year and seeing this team take on any team - I'll very much like their chances in each game.

Agree with all except the extra games taking a toll on player's as KC has no problem year after year with the same circumstances.

Originally posted by NC49er:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Look at the above (however, disagree with the "two meaningless games" comment to start it off - no games are meaningless for this team & it's young guys still developing, the built-up winning culture, etc....realize what you mean, though).

Rebuild this OL and DL (all starts with winning in the trenches)

Get more quality talent at DE/pass rush, LB and in the secondary

Maybe get a new K

Get playmakers healthy (CMC, etc.) and re-sign some key guys (such as Greenlaw - if healthy/if makes sense financially given his health)

Get the best ST coach you can hire - start consistently winning or breaking even in this key 3rd Phase of the game

Hopefully hire some new, better coaches (ST as mentioned, maybe DC - not sold on Sorensen, OL coach, WR)

Shanahan makes some adjustments as necessary (he's a smart football guy & am confident he can rebound and do what's needed in whatever areas...scheme, in-game situational management, etc.)

All of the above may sound like a lot but it's really not. This team, though some of its talent is getting a little older (T. Williams A LOT older - we'll see if he's back), has some of the best & most playoff battle-tested talent in the league. That includes the QB, who has helped guide them to four playoff wins & a SB appearance in only 2 1/2 seasons.

This team will get healthy. Playing in so many additional games in the playoffs over the last five seasons can and will catch up with players re: injuries.

Get healthy along with hopefully some of the above getting done and I'm already looking forward to next year and seeing this team take on any team - I'll very much like their chances in each game.

Agree with all except the extra games taking a toll on player's as KC has no problem year after year with the same circumstances.

I thought about KC and their relative limited injuries this year considering how many total games (regular + postseason) they've also played over the past 5-6 seasons. A key difference for the Niners in that area is some of the Niners' absolute best players are further along in their careers (Trent Williams, CMC for example) so the extra postseason games in consecutive seasons can take their toll on health - and unfortunately, that's been the case this season.

Injuries are a big part of football, though, and many times it's just the luck of the draw regardless of other possible circumstances.

On paper that's a very weak schedule.

Next year's Super Bowl is in Santa Clara - we will have homefield advantage!

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Next year's Super Bowl is in Santa Clara - we will have homefield advantage!

As long as we have a 4th place schedule and don't have EVERY ALL ORO and pro bowler on our team miss games and/or play injured

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Next year's Super Bowl is in Santa Clara - we will have homefield advantage!

As long as we have a 4th place schedule and don't have EVERY ALL ORO and pro bowler on our team miss games and/or play injured

If Rodger Goodell planned it like that I would forgive him.

We should be back in the hunt in '25, with new personnel and players coming back from injury. Let's get it!

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
On paper a fourth-place schedule is a good thing for us, but I have to see what kind of changes this organization makes in the off season before I can gauge my expectations for 2025. As we speak, expectations are not high given the holes on our roster, without substantive changes we hope to be mediocre again. I feel like we're at least two great drafts away from competing in the NFC. We have our franchise QB and our franchise TE, we need to build both lines with young top end impact talent, add quality depth there and everywhere else because the cupboards on this roster are bare.

Only the Oline is mediocre. Maybe the secondary if Ward and Huff leave.

Mainly it's just been injuries.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
On paper a fourth-place schedule is a good thing for us, but I have to see what kind of changes this organization makes in the off season before I can gauge my expectations for 2025. As we speak, expectations are not high given the holes on our roster, without substantive changes we hope to be mediocre again. I feel like we're at least two great drafts away from competing in the NFC. We have our franchise QB and our franchise TE, we need to build both lines with young top end impact talent, add quality depth there and everywhere else because the cupboards on this roster are bare.

Only the Oline is mediocre. Maybe the secondary if Ward and Huff leave.

Mainly it's just been injuries.

Get our hurt players back, with some new added transfusions via the draft and free agency. Then, I think we'll be back on track on getting revenge on Mahomes' ass.

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by 49er-from-Yavin-IV:
On paper a fourth-place schedule is a good thing for us, but I have to see what kind of changes this organization makes in the off season before I can gauge my expectations for 2025. As we speak, expectations are not high given the holes on our roster, without substantive changes we hope to be mediocre again. I feel like we're at least two great drafts away from competing in the NFC. We have our franchise QB and our franchise TE, we need to build both lines with young top end impact talent, add quality depth there and everywhere else because the cupboards on this roster are bare.

Only the Oline is mediocre. Maybe the secondary if Ward and Huff leave.

Mainly it's just been injuries.

Get our hurt players back, with some new added transfusions, via the draft and free agency. Then, I think we'll be back on track on getting revenge on Mahomes' ass.

That would be awesome ! Three Times a charm in our own Stadium

I could be wrong but in looking at the divisional tie breakers it appears that, assuming we end up with same record as cardinals, we would have same divisional record. That means tie breaker goes to record against common opponents and then to conference record.

We would have a better conference record if we end up with same record as cardinals so this all comes down to record against common opponents.

Long story short if we lose to Lions then we are guaranteed to have a worse record against common opponents meaning we lock up 4th place in division - even if we beat the cardinals in week 18.

if we beat lions and then beat cardinals we end up 3rd in division. Not a huge deal either way except that 4th place much easier schedule next year.