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Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched several games where Herbert. Love, and Allen, all with rocker arms, sent rockets over the heads of deep receivers when a more layered ball, like Purdy throws, would have given the receiver a chance to make a play on the ball. However, in each of those three games, arm strength was not the deciding factor.

As to your claim that more arm strength from Purdy would have resulted in a "couple more" wins, you are going to have to detail that one. I don't buy it. The main reason we lost games this season, apart from injuries, was a defense that could stop Grandma on the way to the couch. That one I can prove.

Naw forget I said anything 👍🏻. Purdys deep ball accuracy has been great this year
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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by RonnieLott:
Darnold found someone who believes in him.

Belief is the strongest magic in the world.

Belief and fit

It wasn't given, though. He had to show it through his play. He just found a good situation at the right time.
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It's approaching that time - the know it all hour. Let's see who shows up.
Originally posted by mayo49:
It's approaching that time - the know it all hour. Let's see who shows up.

First comes the belief, then came the good play.

He has a good array of wide receivers and OL as well.
[ Edited by RonnieLott on Dec 30, 2024 at 4:37 PM ]
Last year I put money on you to score 5 rushing TDs. Noooooo! You wait til this year to do what I expected last year.
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Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Originally posted by dj43:
I just watched several games where Herbert. Love, and Allen, all with rocker arms, sent rockets over the heads of deep receivers when a more layered ball, like Purdy throws, would have given the receiver a chance to make a play on the ball. However, in each of those three games, arm strength was not the deciding factor.

As to your claim that more arm strength from Purdy would have resulted in a "couple more" wins, you are going to have to detail that one. I don't buy it. The main reason we lost games this season, apart from injuries, was a defense that could stop Grandma on the way to the couch. That one I can prove.

Naw forget I said anything 👍🏻. Purdys deep ball accuracy has been great this year

No he's definitely struggled with deep passes this year. What we're pushing back on is it being his lack of ability to do it, which is the argument you're making. Perhaps it's injuries to Aiyuk, Trent Williams, CMC, etc? Deebo not giving max effort? First round pick getting shot and missing time?
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Sam Darnold himself credits the 49ers and Brock Purdy for him developing into the QB he is. He has said he learned more last year on our team than he did in his entire career.

So, per usual, you are 100% incorrect on your assessment of this.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Furlow:
I'd agree with that last one, that was a nice play and throw from Darnold. Under pressure, mostly arm because he didn't have his legs under him.

Thanks for being honest.

That doesn't mean Brock isn't a better QB than Darnold either. He does a lot of things better than Sam as well.

Doesn't matter. The only thing you need a QB for is to throw deep. Deep throws or bust - that's the way to win.

Sorry for jumping in...

The announcers repeatedly said Green Bay had made a living not with long sustained drives as had Minne, but with explosive plays. In the end, that proved to be the GB weakness.

For the record I was being sarcastic.

The deep ball is a nice element to a QB's game, but it's not the end-all be-all people in this thread are suggesting.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Sam Darnold himself credits the 49ers and Brock Purdy for him developing into the QB he is. He has said he learned more last year on our team than he did in his entire career.

So, per usual, you are 100% incorrect on your assessment of this.

O'Connell fixed Darnold. SLUG Shany got ZERO out of him. Just fantasy land to think Kyle did something for him. He was a scrub backup who could hardly crack 2nd string with Shany. He's an instant STAR with O'CONNELL!

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Sam Darnold himself credits the 49ers and Brock Purdy for him developing into the QB he is. He has said he learned more last year on our team than he did in his entire career.

So, per usual, you are 100% incorrect on your assessment of this.

O'Connell fixed Darnold. SLUG Shany got ZERO out of him. Just fantasy land to think Kyle did something for him. He was a scrub backup who could hardly crack 2nd string with Shany. He's an instant STAR with O'CONNELL!


Darnolds career was on life support until he came to SF and learned how to properly play the position. It's not a coincidence that he was awful until he came to our system and then flourished immediately afterward, out of his own mouth. Only the truly dumb take argues the point.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Sam Darnold himself credits the 49ers and Brock Purdy for him developing into the QB he is. He has said he learned more last year on our team than he did in his entire career.

So, per usual, you are 100% incorrect on your assessment of this.

O'Connell fixed Darnold. SLUG Shany got ZERO out of him. Just fantasy land to think Kyle did something for him. He was a scrub backup who could hardly crack 2nd string with Shany. He's an instant STAR with O'CONNELL!


Darnolds career was on life support until he came to SF and learned how to properly play the position. It's not a coincidence that he was awful until he came to our system and then flourished immediately afterward, out of his own mouth. Only the truly dumb take argues the point.

1 year with O'CONNELL and he is a SUPER STAR! Shany scrub couldn't get anything out of him. He was barely a #2 at best. It is what it is.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Sam Darnold himself credits the 49ers and Brock Purdy for him developing into the QB he is. He has said he learned more last year on our team than he did in his entire career.

So, per usual, you are 100% incorrect on your assessment of this.

O'Connell fixed Darnold. SLUG Shany got ZERO out of him. Just fantasy land to think Kyle did something for him. He was a scrub backup who could hardly crack 2nd string with Shany. He's an instant STAR with O'CONNELL!


Darnolds career was on life support until he came to SF and learned how to properly play the position. It's not a coincidence that he was awful until he came to our system and then flourished immediately afterward, out of his own mouth. Only the truly dumb take argues the point.

1 year with O'CONNELL and he is a SUPER STAR! Shany scrub couldn't get anything out of him. He was barely a #2 at best. It is what it is.

that is one ignorant football post there..
I'll take Brock 10 times out of 10 times over Sam.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
It's not so much Purdy vs Darnold to me. As I have liked and supported Brock a lot. But it's that this organization and top front office can't get anything out of Darnold. While 1 year with another organization they so obviously can. That's so wildly problematic for us. How can you win like this? It's like they can't recognize and develop talent. They just live in their own little shell and echo chamber. Going to another place was night and day for Darnold. Kind of says a lot and it's bad IMO.

Sam Darnold himself credits the 49ers and Brock Purdy for him developing into the QB he is. He has said he learned more last year on our team than he did in his entire career.

So, per usual, you are 100% incorrect on your assessment of this.

O'Connell fixed Darnold. SLUG Shany got ZERO out of him. Just fantasy land to think Kyle did something for him. He was a scrub backup who could hardly crack 2nd string with Shany. He's an instant STAR with O'CONNELL!


Darnolds career was on life support until he came to SF and learned how to properly play the position. It's not a coincidence that he was awful until he came to our system and then flourished immediately afterward, out of his own mouth. Only the truly dumb take argues the point.

1 year with O'CONNELL and he is a SUPER STAR! Shany scrub couldn't get anything out of him. He was barely a #2 at best. It is what it is.


What evidence do you have to make this claim? You're always making bombastic negative claims like this. He threw 46 balls over the course of 5 games. Unless being an absolute troll how can you possibly make such a claim?
[ Edited by WINiner on Jan 3, 2025 at 10:40 PM ]
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