Brock Purdy vs Sam Darnold

Baldy igniting this discussion was not on my bingo cards.

If one of the legit Head Coaches in Kevin O'Connell is ok with moving on from Sam... what does that tell you about Sam?

I like that O'Connell doesn't just stick with QBs just because he's worried he won't find someone better. (Like some are with Kyle Shanahan/HC) He moved on from Fool's Gold Kirk Cousins without having a guaranteed QB starter this year. Banked on a drafted QB and Sam. And I bet he will bank on that drafted QB J.J. McCarthy before giving Sam Darnold $60+ mill a year next season.. and he might bring back Danny Pennies just in case, if not bring someone else talented in.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
If one of the legit Head Coaches in Kevin O'Connell is ok with moving on from Sam... what does that tell you about Sam?

I like that O'Connell doesn't just stick with QBs just because he's worried he won't find someone better. (Like some are with Kyle Shanahan/HC) He moved on from Fool's Gold Kirk Cousins without having a guaranteed QB starter this year. Banked on a drafted QB and Sam. And I bet he will bank on that drafted QB J.J. McCarthy before giving Sam Darnold $60+ mill a year next season.. and he might bring back Danny Pennies just in case, if not bring someone else talented in.

You touched on it but I think it says just as much about the team's faith in JJ McCarthy than it does about Darnold's potential future. I think there's zero doubt they re-sign Darnold if they don't have a top prospect they clearly love behind him.

Imagine Darny with this injured team, ok? Then imagine Brock with JJ and the 2024 Vikings. I mean..we would probably be like 3-11 right now if we had the ginger big arm beauty guy and Brock goes to the Superbowl again js. Not to say that Darnold hasn't made some great adjustments as qb cause he really has but let's be real. Darnold+Allen+Dobbs? No thanks. I think Tanner should probably get more snaps at this point as far as backups go. But yeah, this thread is pretty funny lolol

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/after-being-benched-for-michael-penix-jr-whats-next-for-kirk-cousins

Again, same premise. If Brock plays hardball and demands a 60+ million contract, is unwilling to finish out his current contract, then you have an option B stop gap until we find our long term solution.

yes, the team is committed to Brock. At least Shanahan, the most talented QB evaluator that ever existed, is. But we've seen contract talk fall apart with this team before. And if Brock and his agent start pushing, trade his ass and pick up a temporary fit like Darnold or Cousins and start looking for the next franchise QB…

Originally posted by DrEll:

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/after-being-benched-for-michael-penix-jr-whats-next-for-kirk-cousins

Again, same premise. If Brock plays hardball and demands a 60+ million contract, is unwilling to finish out his current contract, then you have an option B stop gap until we find our long term solution.

yes, the team is committed to Brock. At least Shanahan, the most talented QB evaluator that ever existed, is. But we've seen contract talk fall apart with this team before. And if Brock and his agent start pushing, trade his ass and pick up a temporary fit like Darnold or Cousins and start looking for the next franchise QB…

Sam I am the turnover machine and career fill in would not have done any better with this team. His interceptions would be higher and we would have a worse record. He would play hero ball and force passes because our line sucks and our receivers struggle downfield. Let's be real. Put Brock on the Vikes and those fans would be cheering MVP. Addison, Jefferson, run game, productive scheme… and let's not forget a better defense…he would light it up. Injury and all. Sam I am a journeyman is one zebra that won't change his stripes.

Originally posted by DrEll:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/after-being-benched-for-michael-penix-jr-whats-next-for-kirk-cousins

Again, same premise. If Brock plays hardball and demands a 60+ million contract, is unwilling to finish out his current contract, then you have an option B stop gap until we find our long term solution.

yes, the team is committed to Brock. At least Shanahan, the most talented QB evaluator that ever existed, is. But we've seen contract talk fall apart with this team before. And if Brock and his agent start pushing, trade his ass and pick up a temporary fit like Darnold or Cousins and start looking for the next franchise QB…

Kirk is not an option B. He's not an option at all. His starting days are over.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
If one of the legit Head Coaches in Kevin O'Connell is ok with moving on from Sam... what does that tell you about Sam?

I like that O'Connell doesn't just stick with QBs just because he's worried he won't find someone better. (Like some are with Kyle Shanahan/HC) He moved on from Fool's Gold Kirk Cousins without having a guaranteed QB starter this year. Banked on a drafted QB and Sam. And I bet he will bank on that drafted QB J.J. McCarthy before giving Sam Darnold $60+ mill a year next season.. and he might bring back Danny Pennies just in case, if not bring someone else talented in.

Kirk has been a damn food reliable starter for years in this league. What are you talking about moved off him lol. Minn continually gave him elite money! $185M to be exact.

They finally "moved off him" because his contract was up and he tore his achilles. They also made moves to move up and get a QB who got less than 500 passing attempts in 3 yrs in college (sound familiar).

No one is paying Same legit money. Kyle was right with Sam. He's a talented thrower and needs to be in a play-action heavy scheme to make it work.

I will say Minn's first 15 or so schemed up plays is vastly different than how they play throughout the rest of the game.

Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Sam I am the turnover machine and career fill in would not have done any better with this team. His interceptions would be higher and we would have a worse record. He would play hero ball and force passes because our line sucks and our receivers struggle downfield. Let's be real. Put Brock on the Vikes and those fans would be cheering MVP. Addison, Jefferson, run game, productive scheme… and let's not forget a better defense…he would light it up. Injury and all. Sam I am a journeyman is one zebra that won't change his stripes.

The whole OL sucks shtick is actually not true. Brock is currently the 11th least pressured QB in the NFL. He's got the 3rd highest time to throw (which is his own doing because he doesn't see the field well currently).

Fun fact….Sam is actually the 5th HIGHEST pressured QB in the league currently at 25.6%, so that debate holds little water. SF is 8th in rushing yards per game. Minn is 15th. So the running game isn't helping Sam as much as Brock.

I'm not saying Sam is all of a sudden a great QB, acting like Brock can't come down to earth because he had one good year is no different than what you're saying imo.

Originally posted by mcwoot:

Originally posted by DrEll:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/after-being-benched-for-michael-penix-jr-whats-next-for-kirk-cousins

Again, same premise. If Brock plays hardball and demands a 60+ million contract, is unwilling to finish out his current contract, then you have an option B stop gap until we find our long term solution.

yes, the team is committed to Brock. At least Shanahan, the most talented QB evaluator that ever existed, is. But we've seen contract talk fall apart with this team before. And if Brock and his agent start pushing, trade his ass and pick up a temporary fit like Darnold or Cousins and start looking for the next franchise QB…

Kirk is not an option B. He's not an option at all. His starting days are over.

He should absolutely be an option B. "His starting days are over" was a comment we heard when talks of Brady over Jimmy were rumored, and look how that backfired on us. Again, we can agree that Kirk Cousins is not the long term solution. He's just a cheaper alternative to Brock while we continue our search for a true franchise quarterback. Clearly you're starting to hear name like Darnold and Cousins being swirled around the 49ers because a lot of pundits are not convinced Purdy is worth the 60 million dollar contract that some fans think he's worth. We made the mistake of overpaying a semi-dependable QB in the past and it didn't exactly work out. So why make the same mistake, especially if Brock has no plans on taking a discount or if he doesn't agree to finish out his current contract.

Cousins would cost about 27m next year.
Darnold closer to 35-40m.

Both cheaper option than Purdy.

All 3 options likely stop gaps while we search for an elite quarterback…

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

Originally posted by Rathof44:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Like I said earlier, unless Justin Jefferson is coming with him, I'm out on Darnold. He's going to get paid huge bucks to go play someplace where he doesn't have a guy open like a 7-11 and he'll start looking more like Carolina Sam Darnold again but at $40+ mil a year.

Weird how having the best WR in the league makes a difference. Lets dig deeper: Minn offense, upgraded RB by a mile, top 10 TE, and a legit #2 WR emerging (he's better than Deebo.)

Watch Addison go up and make plays on the deep ball and take slants to the house. He might be better than Aiyuk too

Don't disagree. He was just down last year.

Lol @ Baldy ummm you can go ahead and have Darnold, in your dreams. In reality, Brock is the man..about to get paid..deal with it

Don't buy Sam Darnold as the replacement for Brock Purdy. We had both of the QB's here last season and it was apparent who the better QB on 49ers was then. If he's so good why would Minnesota let him walk? And if they let him walk why is that? No thanks on Darnold. For fun, there is footage of the perpetual pessimist Grant Cohn saying Sam Darnold cannot be the starting QB of the 49ers. Now he is? He's just baiting for clicks. The 49ers aren't in a great position because they haven't been lucky enough to land Mahomes, Herbert, Allen, Jackson, or Burrow. But it could get a lot worse.