Which week 1 roster is better this year or last year (2023 vs 2024)

This year's secondary looks nice

from a rosters perspective… verdict is still out.

not having Steve Wilks on staff is enough to give this 2024 team my vote though. Still can't believe we hung on to that empty suit the entire season.

i accidentally voted for 2023… mods pls change my vote!

let's go niners!
boo Wilks!

I'd like to think this years team Is slightly better on paper, but we won't know for sure until we see how It all plays out.

This year bc we have a huge upgrade at DE in Floyd, at nickle cb in Yiadom and at RG imo. 3 extreme weaknesses.

Originally posted by mitpdub:
If team includes the coaches, not just the players it's TBD. Let's see how our new DC calls games. Wilks was good teaching the CBs but soft on his calls against the run. Saleh was conservative at times, Demeco was just right and was respected.

Player wise we don't know his new back end is. I don't even know if Mustapha is going to start and if Hufanga is going to play anytime soon. Dre Greenlaw will miss some time so we will have to see how Campbell fills.

So I think our games need to be higher scoring until the D gets their footing. All that matters is how strong we finish and we should be in good position for that as long as we're healthy.

I agree with this take. Defense, while statistically a good defense, felt drastically different under Wilks last year. I actually felt like the defense was weaker than the stats suggest, because the offense would pull away by the third quarter, and opposing offenses would become one-dimensional trying to keep up.

I feel like the playoffs revealed how good our defense actually was: they struggled against teams that could have a more balanced attack (Packers, Lions, Chiefs).

Hopefully the change to a DC who ran things like Saleh/Ryans, will produce better results.

Originally posted by Wubbie:
I agree with this take. Defense, while statistically a good defense, felt drastically different under Wilks last year. I actually felt like the defense was weaker than the stats suggest, because the offense would pull away by the third quarter, and opposing offenses would become one-dimensional trying to keep up.

I feel like the playoffs revealed how good our defense actually was: they struggled against teams that could have a more balanced attack (Packers, Lions, Chiefs).

Hopefully the change to a DC who ran things like Saleh/Ryans, will produce better results.

100 percent. Some of us were trying to point this out throughout the season but were continually met with arguments around points and yards. Basic stats tell you very little.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
I agree with this take. Defense, while statistically a good defense, felt drastically different under Wilks last year. I actually felt like the defense was weaker than the stats suggest, because the offense would pull away by the third quarter, and opposing offenses would become one-dimensional trying to keep up.

I feel like the playoffs revealed how good our defense actually was: they struggled against teams that could have a more balanced attack (Packers, Lions, Chiefs).

Hopefully the change to a DC who ran things like Saleh/Ryans, will produce better results.

100 percent. Some of us were trying to point this out throughout the season but were continually met with arguments around points and yards. Basic stats tell you very little.

Naw there was really only one or two dudes defending wilks. We all knew he sucked… didn't take a savant to figure that one out

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
100 percent. Some of us were trying to point this out throughout the season but were continually met with arguments around points and yards. Basic stats tell you very little.

Well your experience with that individual in the other forums should explain to you why the arguments were so simplistic.

Originally posted by 5thSFG:
Naw there was really only one or two dudes defending wilks. We all knew he sucked… didn't take a savant to figure that one out

I mean I was there. Wilks got a lot of attention with the blown play-call against the Vikes, but people thought we had a top defense throughout the season anyway and those arguments were based mainly on points and yards.

You could see trouble well before that highlighted moment against the Vikes. I agree that many people thought Wilks was a problem after that moment though.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Well your experience with that individual in the other forums should explain to you why the arguments were so simplistic.

I'm honestly not even counting him, lol.

It's about the same.

What really determines if the needle moves is if Purdy develops or regresses. Floyd and Puni are probably our most notable upgrades but obviously they don't quite move the needle by themselves.

Originally posted by Wubbie:
I agree with this take. Defense, while statistically a good defense, felt drastically different under Wilks last year. I actually felt like the defense was weaker than the stats suggest, because the offense would pull away by the third quarter, and opposing offenses would become one-dimensional trying to keep up.

I feel like the playoffs revealed how good our defense actually was: they struggled against teams that could have a more balanced attack (Packers, Lions, Chiefs).

Hopefully the change to a DC who ran things like Saleh/Ryans, will produce better results.

One thing about that Super Bowl that hurts my soul… is the defense really did play extremely well for three quarters. But I also firmly believe that was just pure talent and adrenaline. In the 4th quarter and OT when it came time for Wilks to actually try to out-scheme Reid, we folded.

I think it hinges on Purdy taking another step. Continued development, improvement and refinement of his craft will be the difference maker for us as a team.

This is where Jimmy and Kap both failed.

Originally posted by LayTheWoodall:
I think it hinges on Purdy taking another step. Continued development, improvement and refinement of his craft will be the difference maker for us as a team.

This is where Jimmy and Kap both failed.

going to be really interesting.....

Purdy is getting damn brave, how many bombs did we hear about in practice...and you could see him hold the ball in preseason...

Purdy is always looking for chunk plays....but he really does seem to be looking to throw knock out type passes.

I honestly do not think, you can teach what Purdy has....I am a risk adverse person by nature...so Purdy puts me on edge...big time... Purdy really does want to put the dagger in the defenses back and twist.

Dude is so young, so aggressive and...so damn good at it....it is bonkers to bear witness too....

It is going to be really interesting to see what the threshold is when his aggressive throws over extend what he can feasibly pull off, either by his limitations or the limitations of the players around him. It is really hard to put a limit on him right now, since he is looking bigger and stronger than last year....he has a noticably better fast ball this year than he did the previous 2 years...the dude has really added velocity.

I suspect we will see more interceptions this year as he figures out what he can do and can't do....well unless he is really strapped down by the system...I don't expect he will be able to hit the field guns blazing and avoid turnovers as he figures that out...but I am expecting a more aggressive Purdy.

Right now, I think the guy is a bit like a young Brett Farve with his ability to move and his mentality.

Always impossible to judge because it's all about injuries.
What I'll say is I think we've significantly improved the lower half of the roster and improved the quality of depth in most places. Even adding some legitimate upside and potential long term pieces as pieces were only counting on as depth this year.

So if we don't see much of a drop from our older stars….I think this is the best roster we've had under Kyle going into a season.
That means nothing once the games start but we've kept our core intact and raised the floor of our back of the roster.