Isaac Guerendo-RB-Louisville 2024 NFL Draft

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Liked what I saw last season, hope he can have a trajectory like Mostert during his time here .

It's the typical Shanny's tactics.. you get in his dog house for whatever reason, and he'll just keep you frozen until he remembers to just let you go..

To be fair has anyone who was in "Shannys doghouse" ever gone somewhere else and been good? Have Deebo and Ayuik but we gave them contracts and they still underperformed. Maybe Kyle can distinguish talent from actual effort and dedication.

Another speedster on the bench. He ran a 4.33 40. Watkins 4.37 40, Cowing 4.38 40, and Pearsal 4.41 40.

Dude is going to be fine… he is young and behind two established backs… hell even the returner he is behind went super nova….

Let's not act like the 49ers tried to look under every stone to give touches too random RBs and ignored him…. The dude will be fine

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Liked what I saw last season, hope he can have a trajectory like Mostert during his time here .

It's the typical Shanny's tactics.. you get in his dog house for whatever reason, and he'll just keep you frozen until he remembers to just let you go..

To be fair has anyone who was in "Shannys doghouse" ever gone somewhere else and been good? Have Deebo and Ayuik but we gave them contracts and they still underperformed. Maybe Kyle can distinguish talent from actual effort and dedication.

they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Liked what I saw last season, hope he can have a trajectory like Mostert during his time here .

It's the typical Shanny's tactics.. you get in his dog house for whatever reason, and he'll just keep you frozen until he remembers to just let you go..

To be fair has anyone who was in "Shannys doghouse" ever gone somewhere else and been good? Have Deebo and Ayuik but we gave them contracts and they still underperformed. Maybe Kyle can distinguish talent from actual effort and dedication.

they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

Don't forget it was Lance, Jimmy, then Brock.
Kyle had the order completely backwards.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Liked what I saw last season, hope he can have a trajectory like Mostert during his time here .

It's the typical Shanny's tactics.. you get in his dog house for whatever reason, and he'll just keep you frozen until he remembers to just let you go..

To be fair has anyone who was in "Shannys doghouse" ever gone somewhere else and been good? Have Deebo and Ayuik but we gave them contracts and they still underperformed. Maybe Kyle can distinguish talent from actual effort and dedication.

they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

Don't forget it was Lance, Jimmy, then Brock.
Kyle had the order completely backwards.

They invested 3 first round picks in Trey and was paying Garoppolo phat. In no way were they going to start no throw power Mr irrelevant over those two because if it didn't work out fans would be calling for their jobs. We kept Purdy on the roster having 3 QBs which isn't normal because Kyle believed he had something. On top of that here's an account from Jed York himself saying Kyle thought Purdy was the best QB on the roster his rookie year

Originally posted by 9moon:
they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

You have to look at the team's actions, not their public statements. You also have to consider the timing of their actions and statements.

Is it believable that Purdy looked like the best QB in 2022 training camp? Sure. You were comparing him to Trey Lance, a developmental project, and Nate Sudfeld. The idea was that Trey Lance would play and get better, not that he was a polished product.

You also had Jimmy G in limbo at the time and not an active participant in training camp. They eventually restructured his deal and inserted him as the #2 QB. They cut Sudfeld.

The story York told is believable on a technical basis only (a comparison between the active QBs in training camp, not including Jimmy G who they wanted to move and was not a participant). If they thought Brock was a starter in waiting it's highly unlikely they restructure Jimmy G's deal in the fashion they did, and put him ahead of Brock.

Originally posted by 9moon:
they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

Shanahan has told the story that he went to Jed York after Brock's first training camp and told him that he thought Brock was the best QB on the roster and that York would have to be prepared for the fact that he would most likely become the starter over Lance, who York had watched them burn three first round draft picks the year before. York has confirmed the story as well.

If I'd just spent three first round picks on a guy that I knew was going to get beat out by the guy I just picked as the last player in the draft, I imagine I would keep that quiet too. If the national media got hold of that bit of information, it would have become a huge story and a constant distraction that you wouldn't need

The team was fortunate that things worked out the way they did with the injuries to Lance and Jimmy, that way Brock comes in as the scrappy underdog and it becomes a national story for all of the right reasons.

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Since07:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Liked what I saw last season, hope he can have a trajectory like Mostert during his time here .

It's the typical Shanny's tactics.. you get in his dog house for whatever reason, and he'll just keep you frozen until he remembers to just let you go..

To be fair has anyone who was in "Shannys doghouse" ever gone somewhere else and been good? Have Deebo and Ayuik but we gave them contracts and they still underperformed. Maybe Kyle can distinguish talent from actual effort and dedication.

they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

Don't forget it was Lance, Jimmy, then Brock.
Kyle had the order completely backwards.

They invested 3 first round picks in Trey and was paying Garoppolo phat. In no way were they going to start no throw power Mr irrelevant over those two because if it didn't work out fans would be calling for their jobs. We kept Purdy on the roster having 3 QBs which isn't normal because Kyle believed he had something. On top of that here's an account from Jed York himself saying Kyle thought Purdy was the best QB on the roster his rookie year

They invested 3 first round picks in Trey and was paying Garoppolo phat. In no way were they going to start no throw power Mr irrelevant over those two because - LOL.... exactly my point, KYLE DID NOT WANT TO WIN.. plus, your point alone should tell you enough what kind of a HC Shanny is..

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 9moon:
they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

You have to look at the team's actions, not their public statements. You also have to consider the timing of their actions and statements.

Is it believable that Purdy looked like the best QB in 2022 training camp? Sure. You were comparing him to Trey Lance, a developmental project, and Nate Sudfeld. The idea was that Trey Lance would play and get better, not that he was a polished product.

You also had Jimmy G in limbo at the time and not an active participant in training camp. They eventually restructured his deal and inserted him as the #2 QB. They cut Sudfeld.

The story York told is believable on a technical basis only (a comparison between the active QBs in training camp, not including Jimmy G who they wanted to move and was not a participant). If they thought Brock was a starter in waiting it's highly unlikely they restructure Jimmy G's deal in the fashion they did, and put him ahead of Brock.

... but that's just giving Shanny the excuse and reason why he did what he did..

Do we not use the " Winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing " saying any more ?

Originally posted by 49ers81:

Originally posted by 9moon:
they were NOT good to begin with... Shanny just used the CAN NOT LEARN THE OFFENSE, CAN NOT BLOCK, OUT OF SHAPE, excuses so that his followers continue to support him..

how bad of a HC is Shanny that he realized that Purdy was better than Lance but DID NOT SAY ANYTHING until Purdy started balling.. if he saw Purdy the better QB, why did he not just play him ahead of Lance?

Shanahan has told the story that he went to Jed York after Brock's first training camp and told him that he thought Brock was the best QB on the roster and that York would have to be prepared for the fact that he would most likely become the starter over Lance, who York had watched them burn three first round draft picks the year before. York has confirmed the story as well.

If I'd just spent three first round picks on a guy that I knew was going to get beat out by the guy I just picked as the last player in the draft, I imagine I would keep that quiet too. If the national media got hold of that bit of information, it would have become a huge story and a constant distraction that you wouldn't need

The team was fortunate that things worked out the way they did with the injuries to Lance and Jimmy, that way Brock comes in as the scrappy underdog and it becomes a national story for all of the right reasons.

YOU AIN'T BUYING THAT STORY.. are you??

the more people know about the story, the more Shanny makes him self look bad because it proves that he did not want to win.. He may as well say THANK GOODNESS BOTH QBs GOT HURT, PURDY FINALLY GOT HIS CHANCE..

Originally posted by 9moon:
... but that's just giving Shanny the excuse and reason why he did what he did..

Do we not use the " Winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing " saying any more ?

Nothing in my post is an excuse for Kyle. Whether you buy the story or not, it's not a good look.

Its bad to to say but when Jimmy and Trey got hurt it gifted Kyle an avenue to play Brock without any scrutiny.

Originally posted by bud49:
Its bad to to say but when Jimmy and Trey got hurt it gifted Kyle an avenue to play Brock without any scrutiny.

It appears most of the time he only plays rookies when he has no choice. Then they play and it's like oh this kid ain't so bad lol

Originally posted by 9moon:
They invested 3 first round picks in Trey and was paying Garoppolo phat. In no way were they going to start no throw power Mr irrelevant over those two because - LOL.... exactly my point, KYLE DID NOT WANT TO WIN.. plus, your point alone should tell you enough what kind of a HC Shanny is..

Another ridiculous point by you. That's not how human society works, nor will it ever be. Year after year and you never get any smarter lol