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🏆 SUPER BOWL LVIII PREGAME THREAD - SF 49ERS vs KC CHIEFS 🏆

Feb 9, 2024 at 12:28 PM
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Odd because 21 of their 29 attempts came in the first half.

Ya they also didn't have the ball very much in the 2nd half. Then they went down 10 points
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:34 PM
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Ya they also didn't have the ball very much in the 2nd half. Then they went down 10 points

They did not get behind until 9:56 in the 4th. And that was only 3 points. They threw their gameplan of running out the window because they panicked.
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:35 PM
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Odd because 21 of their 29 attempts came in the first half.

Ya they also didn't have the ball very much in the 2nd half. Then they went down 10 points

I give the D some credit the 2nd half drive chart:

TO on downs
FF
Punt (3 and out)
TO on downs again
TD allowed with 1 min left, up 2 scores (and they needed 11 plays on this drive, including being run stuffed at the goalline, which burned the TO)
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:37 PM
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
They did not get behind until 9:56 in the 4th. And that was only 3 points. They threw their gameplan of running out the window because they panicked.

Up until they went down by 10 they ran the ball 7 times on 18 snaps. I would hardly call that just abandoning the run. 2 of those 18 plays were 4th downs where it was gonna be very risky for them to run the ball. So you could really say they ran the ball 7 times and threw the ball 9 times excluding the 4th down plays
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:38 PM
  • thl408
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Originally posted by NYniner85:

Brock has to overcome Jimmy's reputation. It will take multiple years to rewire how the national media thinks.
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:40 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Mahomes was looking rather pedestrian during that second half of the Ravens game. That was more the Ravens choking the game away versus Mahomes "game managing". See the fumble at the goal line as a prime example and add in the fact they completely abandoned the run.
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:40 PM
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Odd because 21 of their 29 attempts came in the first half.

Ya they also didn't have the ball very much in the 2nd half. Then they went down 10 points

I give the D some credit the 2nd half drive chart:

TO on downs
FF
Punt (3 and out)
TO on downs again
TD allowed with 1 min left, up 2 scores (and they needed 11 plays on this drive, including being run stuffed at the goalline, which burned the TO)

As do I but I'm not going to act like they turned up some insane halftime adjustments like people have been saying here. To me the Detroit drops and how they just stopped running the ball were bigger factors in the comeback than SF making adjustments. Guys were wide open on numerous plays in the 2nd half. One of those was a dropped TD pass in the end zone. After the two playoff games I have very little faith in this D especially against Patrick.
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:42 PM
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by goatroppolo:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Odd because 21 of their 29 attempts came in the first half.

Ya they also didn't have the ball very much in the 2nd half. Then they went down 10 points

I give the D some credit the 2nd half drive chart:

TO on downs
FF
Punt (3 and out)
TO on downs again
TD allowed with 1 min left, up 2 scores (and they needed 11 plays on this drive, including being run stuffed at the goalline, which burned the TO)

As do I but I'm not going to act like they turned up some insane halftime adjustments like people have been saying here. To me the Detroit drops and how they just stopped running the ball were bigger factors in the comeback than SF making adjustments. Guys were wide open on numerous plays in the 2nd half. One of those was a dropped TD pass in the end zone. After the two playoff games I have very little faith in this D especially against Patrick.

You've been doubting all season and now we are in the Super Bowl. Keep it up please .
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:45 PM
Originally posted by swoosh6996:
You've been doubting all season and now we are in the Super Bowl. Keep it up please .

I still don't see how he thinks Detroit abandoned the run game in the 2nd half
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:45 PM
Originally posted by NinerPride365:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersking:
Recent history has shown that the Chiefs are more consistent than the 49ers, where it counts most = playoffs.

Two things have to occur for a 49ers win (even by 3 pts):
49ers defense has to step up big time (anyone who follows the 49ers knows it). The chances of that happening? maybe 40%
The Chiefs defense has to under-perform. The chances of that happening, with Spagnuolo + their experience, maybe 30%
The chances of both happening, and we really need both to happen in some fashion, is about 12%

Keeping math aside, the eye tests showed that the 49ers needed the two weeks to really improve in some key areas. Chiefs mostly have to continue what they have been doing, I don't think anyone is asking them to change, over-perform or do anything extra-ordinary. Those two scenarios by themselves tell a lot.

Ok, any given Sunday.

Math? That's sounds like made up what ifs. Not actual data.

People acting like KC has faced an offense like SF with all the talent they have. Name me one team in the last couple months??

Meanwhile SF has played two offenses that have actually been better (much) compared to KC this yr. There's data/film to back that up. Not made up %

lol at the 12%. So random. Everything is 50% since either it happens, or it doesn't happen.

I'm fairly certain it's actually closer to 16.465984515198448%


These are opinions and thoughts, and if anyone has diff %s, so be it, it's ok too. In the end, regardless of the numbers, what this aims to tell is that the chances of both happening is very low. That's the main takeaway.
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by 49ersking:
Originally posted by NinerPride365:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersking:
Recent history has shown that the Chiefs are more consistent than the 49ers, where it counts most = playoffs.

Two things have to occur for a 49ers win (even by 3 pts):
49ers defense has to step up big time (anyone who follows the 49ers knows it). The chances of that happening? maybe 40%
The Chiefs defense has to under-perform. The chances of that happening, with Spagnuolo + their experience, maybe 30%
The chances of both happening, and we really need both to happen in some fashion, is about 12%

Keeping math aside, the eye tests showed that the 49ers needed the two weeks to really improve in some key areas. Chiefs mostly have to continue what they have been doing, I don't think anyone is asking them to change, over-perform or do anything extra-ordinary. Those two scenarios by themselves tell a lot.

Ok, any given Sunday.

Math? That's sounds like made up what ifs. Not actual data.

People acting like KC has faced an offense like SF with all the talent they have. Name me one team in the last couple months??

Meanwhile SF has played two offenses that have actually been better (much) compared to KC this yr. There's data/film to back that up. Not made up %

lol at the 12%. So random. Everything is 50% since either it happens, or it doesn't happen.

I'm fairly certain it's actually closer to 16.465984515198448%


These are opinions and thoughts, and if anyone has diff %s, so be it, it's ok too. In the end, regardless of the numbers, what this aims to tell is that the chances of both happening is very low. That's the main takeaway.

I give it a 50% chance that the 12% happens. I'm an expert mathemologist so I know what I'm talking about.
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:48 PM
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49ersking:
Recent history has shown that the Chiefs are more consistent than the 49ers, where it counts most = playoffs.

Two things have to occur for a 49ers win (even by 3 pts):
49ers defense has to step up big time (anyone who follows the 49ers knows it). The chances of that happening? maybe 40%
The Chiefs defense has to under-perform. The chances of that happening, with Spagnuolo + their experience, maybe 30%
The chances of both happening, and we really need both to happen in some fashion, is about 12%

Keeping math aside, the eye tests showed that the 49ers needed the two weeks to really improve in some key areas. Chiefs mostly have to continue what they have been doing, I don't think anyone is asking them to change, over-perform or do anything extra-ordinary. Those two scenarios by themselves tell a lot.

Ok, any given Sunday.

Math? That's sounds like made up what ifs. Not actual data.

People acting like KC has faced an offense like SF with all the talent they have. Name me one team in the last couple months??

Meanwhile SF has played two offenses that have actually been better (much) compared to KC this yr. There's data/film to back that up. Not made up %

I hear you. I'm all over the place mentally, but mostly our inconsistencies are what scares me. Especially recently in the playoffs.

If they come out and play their best game we should win since kc doesn't have the same explosive offense anymore and we do. If our defense plays up to its talent it's also the better defense. But that's also a lot of what if's lol
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:49 PM
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The Chiefs scored 14 points on Baltimore when they went through Andy Reid's scripted plays. They scored only 3 points after.

We have to start out strong, weather the storm, and let Reid's script wear out. Once Mahomes is left with the dinks and dunks, then we clamp down.
Feb 9, 2024 at 12:50 PM
I really wanted the Chiefs to beat the Ravens because I knew the beat down the Niners are going to administer will have the added luster of breaking some very coddled and privileged souls.

The Chiefs' achievements have been well earned, and by now publicly overstated as this week has proven, but its furtherance will be denied . And our 49ers will earn that on Sunday.
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Feb 9, 2024 at 12:51 PM
Originally posted by DrEll:
The Chiefs scored 14 points on Baltimore when they went through Andy Reid's scripted plays. They scored only 3 points after.

We have to start out strong, weather the storm, and let Reid's script wear out. Once Mahomes is left with the dinks and dunks, then we clamp down.

Run that rock all night. Wilks better have the scheme of his life and the defense the game of the year.
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