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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So the bar is winning regular season games? Thats not what jed promised us when he hired shanny.

We hang superbowl banners...

Remind us when he actually said this.

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As for the extensions, this is really good news. The team is competing for a SB going on half a decade now. This is the golden age of the York ownership.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jed-york-hold-me-responsible-if-49ers-dont-win-super-bowls
I mean I've wanted Kyle to stick around as long as possible...and mainly because who else is out there? And can you trust Jed to luck out again? More likely he'll get another Tomfoolya or a Mike Nolan type. 🤢🤢🤢

So that added to the fact that the team would not have any offensive turnover because Kyle is also the OC, will always put us in a competitive situation each season (if we're healthy).

You get the great with Kyle.. but you also get the bad with Kyle... all his past trauma affecting the team at times.. be it when choosing/sticking with starters or in-game decisions.

But hopefully with Brock, he'll have us ahead well enough that those situation don't come into play.. more often than not at least.

Like Mike Florio today kept on harping about Brock eventually needing to make a tough pass in a big game before he can believe in him.... a Jimmy G super bowl moment... but like we wouldn't have needed Jimmy to hit that deep pass if Jimmy helped convert some 1st downs when had a f**king 10pt lead on the Chiefs. So with Brock, I don't see that being an issue.
[ Edited by Afrikan on Sep 22, 2023 at 4:44 PM ]
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jed-york-hold-me-responsible-if-49ers-dont-win-super-bowls

Go ahead and hold the owner of the team responsible by not buying tickets, merchandise or watching the games.
Originally posted by ninerjok:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Is there a longer tenured GM/HC pair in the league right now that haven't won a SB?
IDK but try not being too butthurt over it.

It's just a question.
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
So the bar is winning regular season games? Thats not what jed promised us when he hired shanny.

We hang superbowl banners...

49er football is currently fun. Enjoy the journey, week by week.

Those weeks late in January and February aren't so much fun. Not fun watching the Titanic over and over when you know it's gonna sink at the end
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jed-york-hold-me-responsible-if-49ers-dont-win-super-bowls

Go ahead and hold the owner of the team responsible by not buying tickets, merchandise or watching the games.

That was a stupid thing to say after firing Harbaugh as that puts you in a situation where if you get a great Coach that doesn't win a Super Bowl in the first few years, then it must be a failure. That puts you in a situation where you have a revolving door at head Coach.
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jed-york-hold-me-responsible-if-49ers-dont-win-super-bowls

Exactly. It was said when he was in the process of firing an extremely popular coach among the fanbase, who had just had the best 4 year run of any coach in the York era.

He was leaning on a decades old cliche, from a completely different owner to try and justify an extremely unpopular move at the time. Same with the 'winning with class' garbage. Not winning a SB and a lot of player arrests (even though Harbro didn't control the roster) were the only ways the Harbaugh lead Niners fell short.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Sep 22, 2023 at 4:51 PM ]
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by JoseCortez:
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jed-york-hold-me-responsible-if-49ers-dont-win-super-bowls

Go ahead and hold the owner of the team responsible by not buying tickets, merchandise or watching the games.

That was a stupid thing to say after firing Harbaugh as that puts you in a situation where if you get a great Coach that doesn't win a Super Bowl in the first few years, then it must be a failure. That puts you in a situation where you have a revolving door at head Coach.
Harb ruined a SB team
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Originally posted by KiwiM3:
Excellent news. We are lucky to have such a good HC-GM duo.

ditto
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
It's difficult to get such an extension when you bomb a QB selection where you used three years' worth of first round picks. However, they've drafted three potential HoFers in Warner, Bosa and Kittle and have (I assume) been the best in the league in drafting in the later rounds. They got exceptionally lucky with BCB. They're a marginal playoff team, at best, the moment Jimmy went down last year without Purdy. With Purdy they were Super Bowl contenders last year, and now, presumably, one of 2 or 3 frontrunners this year. If they had entered this year with Lance or Darnold as the starter and started out 1-2 after either failing to make the playoffs last year or getting blown out in the first round, do they still get the extension? I'm not asking this rhetorically, I don't know. Had they failed to make the playoffs last year, that would have been three out of six years out of the postseason and without BCB, they would have possibly still been a mess at QB. I think they would have continued on with these guys, but I'm not sure about a six year extension.

QBs save and ruin coaches. Guys like Zach Wilson are absolute coach killers -- the direct opposites are BCB and Russel Wilson when he was on his rookie contract. The Jets probably had the best draft of any team in a decade last year when they picked up Sauce Gardner, Garret Wilson and Breece Hall. Salah has put together a good defense and I think their culture is good. The Jets needed a QB and the Jets didn't reach for Zach Wilson. Had they not drafted him, the 49ers would have and we all would have been pissed at his laziness and crappy play like the Jets fans currently are. I've speculated that Lynch and Shanahan moved up to #3 in the hopes that the Jets would pass on Wilson and instead select Justin Fields or even Trey Lance. It seemed like an odd move to me at the time because Wilson evolved into the undisputed #2 and I felt like the other QBs were a reach at #3. It kills me that the #12 pick was eventually used on Micah Parsons by the Cowboys.

We were never, ever picking Micah Parsons. Ever.
Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

That's my coach. That's my GM 😥
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
It's difficult to get such an extension when you bomb a QB selection where you used three years' worth of first round picks. However, they've drafted three potential HoFers in Warner, Bosa and Kittle and have (I assume) been the best in the league in drafting in the later rounds. They got exceptionally lucky with BCB. They're a marginal playoff team, at best, the moment Jimmy went down last year without Purdy. With Purdy they were Super Bowl contenders last year, and now, presumably, one of 2 or 3 frontrunners this year. If they had entered this year with Lance or Darnold as the starter and started out 1-2 after either failing to make the playoffs last year or getting blown out in the first round, do they still get the extension? I'm not asking this rhetorically, I don't know. Had they failed to make the playoffs last year, that would have been three out of six years out of the postseason and without BCB, they would have possibly still been a mess at QB. I think they would have continued on with these guys, but I'm not sure about a six year extension.

QBs save and ruin coaches. Guys like Zach Wilson are absolute coach killers -- the direct opposites are BCB and Russel Wilson when he was on his rookie contract. The Jets probably had the best draft of any team in a decade last year when they picked up Sauce Gardner, Garret Wilson and Breece Hall. Salah has put together a good defense and I think their culture is good. The Jets needed a QB and the Jets didn't reach for Zach Wilson. Had they not drafted him, the 49ers would have and we all would have been pissed at his laziness and crappy play like the Jets fans currently are. I've speculated that Lynch and Shanahan moved up to #3 in the hopes that the Jets would pass on Wilson and instead select Justin Fields or even Trey Lance. It seemed like an odd move to me at the time because Wilson evolved into the undisputed #2 and I felt like the other QBs were a reach at #3. It kills me that the #12 pick was eventually used on Micah Parsons by the Cowboys.

BTW, the irony is not lost on me that Russel Wilson has now become a coach killer later in his career.

Wilson has come full circle.
This news makes me a happy 49ers fan.
Stability Is exactly what this franchise has been In need of for quite sometime now and we finally have that with Kyle and Lynch.

Now let's complete that quest for 6.
they made the absolute worst trade in franchise history and should be held accountable for that

but also they have been consistent with the rest of the team, great in later rounds and good regular season coaching

we also were unlucky with qbs (garoppolos injury and not being able to sign stafford - not wanting to sign brady) and the nfl has something against us (the fumble against eagles, the gifts to the chiefs) and the tartt play. we have been so close that we truly DESERVE to win it. Hopefully it will come some day
Thanks to John Elway for not hiring Kyle!
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Originally posted by ColorMeBaddFan:
It's difficult to get such an extension when you bomb a QB selection where you used three years' worth of first round picks. However, they've drafted three potential HoFers in Warner, Bosa and Kittle and have (I assume) been the best in the league in drafting in the later rounds. They got exceptionally lucky with BCB. They're a marginal playoff team, at best, the moment Jimmy went down last year without Purdy. With Purdy they were Super Bowl contenders last year, and now, presumably, one of 2 or 3 frontrunners this year. If they had entered this year with Lance or Darnold as the starter and started out 1-2 after either failing to make the playoffs last year or getting blown out in the first round, do they still get the extension? I'm not asking this rhetorically, I don't know. Had they failed to make the playoffs last year, that would have been three out of six years out of the postseason and without BCB, they would have possibly still been a mess at QB. I think they would have continued on with these guys, but I'm not sure about a six year extension.

QBs save and ruin coaches. Guys like Zach Wilson are absolute coach killers -- the direct opposites are BCB and Russel Wilson when he was on his rookie contract. The Jets probably had the best draft of any team in a decade last year when they picked up Sauce Gardner, Garret Wilson and Breece Hall. Salah has put together a good defense and I think their culture is good. The Jets needed a QB and the Jets didn't reach for Zach Wilson. Had they not drafted him, the 49ers would have and we all would have been pissed at his laziness and crappy play like the Jets fans currently are. I've speculated that Lynch and Shanahan moved up to #3 in the hopes that the Jets would pass on Wilson and instead select Justin Fields or even Trey Lance. It seemed like an odd move to me at the time because Wilson evolved into the undisputed #2 and I felt like the other QBs were a reach at #3. It kills me that the #12 pick was eventually used on Micah Parsons by the Cowboys.

I don't completely disagree but what saved them to this point regarding Lance was and currently is Purdy.

we can look back at every draft and see the what ifs but at the time they did what they thought was best. There's allot of other reasons that pick failed. Playing time, injuries etc. they didn't just change their minds.

The reason I do agree with the extensions is because even with that failed pick look where we're at. History typically tells us that you fail at that type of pick your teams fail for several years. We're not. Everyone's saying how talented the roster is. All pros at every position. The roster assembled is amazing with few holes. Addition 30 some mil in cap space for next year. I think overall it's been allot more good than bad.
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