OTAs/Training Camp 2025

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Why trade bait for next year? Trey's 5th year option is in (I think) 2024. You can trade him after next year. He might be even more valuable with another year of development (again assuming his current improvement trajectory continues.)

Cause his value to other teams would be higher if they know they control him longer. So in turn we get more value in theory

If Brock is truly Shanny's guy long term, I don't see us prolonging the inevitable.

I think the opposite, reason being is, if you think about it, would trading him help our chances at a Super Bowl? Would our depth be better or worse at the position? What real benefit would that be to us this year? Would we get great value? Is it worth the risk?

Right now it sounds like Sam has had a meh camp overall, starting decently and then fading. His NFL track record is not good thus far. He doesn't know the offense as well as Lance and is not the caliber of dual threat that he is either.

If we're being fair and honest, the upside, trustworthiness to make the right decisions based on understanding of the system, the ability to force 11-on-11 in the run game, and the ability to make plays off schedule when things break down all favor Trey.

It just seems like the most sensible idea is to have Trey as plan B and Sam (or Allen if something unforeseen happens) as plan C.

Most likely we would get poor value for any trade right now while simultaneously damaging our our strong QB depth. That's two pretty major negatives.

All that said, we'll see if anything changes during the preseason. I would be very surprised if it did, but you never know until these guys play.

The cap savings alone by not having to pay him 20 million to sit on the bench could go toward beefing up the O line and adding some more weapons for Brock. That is what would increase our chance of winning a SB. Betting on Trey to come off the bench to win a SB without any evidence of him even taking a team into the playoffs is a far stretch.

Also, this is based on Brock continuing to excel this season and Trey not stepping onto the field for any significant time. If Trey gets another opportunity to play this season than all bets are off of course.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Why trade bait for next year? Trey's 5th year option is in (I think) 2024. You can trade him after next year. He might be even more valuable with another year of development (again assuming his current improvement trajectory continues.)

Cause his value to other teams would be higher if they know they control him longer. So in turn we get more value in theory

If Brock is truly Shanny's guy long term, I don't see us prolonging the inevitable.

I think the opposite, reason being is, if you think about it, would trading him help our chances at a Super Bowl? Would our depth be better or worse at the position? What real benefit would that be to us this year? Would we get great value? Is it worth the risk?

Right now it sounds like Sam has had a meh camp overall, starting decently and then fading. His NFL track record is not good thus far. He doesn't know the offense as well as Lance and is not the caliber of dual threat that he is either.

If we're being fair and honest, the upside, trustworthiness to make the right decisions based on understanding of the system, the ability to force 11-on-11 in the run game, and the ability to make plays off schedule when things break down all favor Trey.

It just seems like the most sensible idea is to have Trey as plan B and Sam (or Allen if something unforeseen happens) as plan C.

Most likely we would get poor value for any trade right now while simultaneously damaging our our strong QB depth. That's two pretty major negatives.

All that said, we'll see if anything changes during the preseason. I would be very surprised if it did, but you never know until these guys play.

The cap savings alone by not having to pay him 20 million to sit on the bench could go toward beefing up the O line and adding some more weapons for Brock. That is what would increase our odds of winning a SB. Betting on Trey to come off the bench to win a SB without any evidence of him even taking a team into the playoffs is a far stretch.

^ This man gets it.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Why trade bait for next year? Trey's 5th year option is in (I think) 2024. You can trade him after next year. He might be even more valuable with another year of development (again assuming his current improvement trajectory continues.)

Cause his value to other teams would be higher if they know they control him longer. So in turn we get more value in theory

If Brock is truly Shanny's guy long term, I don't see us prolonging the inevitable.

I think the opposite, reason being is, if you think about it, would trading him help our chances at a Super Bowl? Would our depth be better or worse at the position? What real benefit would that be to us this year? Would we get great value? Is it worth the risk?

Right now it sounds like Sam has had a meh camp overall, starting decently and then fading. His NFL track record is not good thus far. He doesn't know the offense as well as Lance and is not the caliber of dual threat that he is either.

If we're being fair and honest, the upside, trustworthiness to make the right decisions based on understanding of the system, the ability to force 11-on-11 in the run game, and the ability to make plays off schedule when things break down all favor Trey.

It just seems like the most sensible idea is to have Trey as plan B and Sam (or Allen if something unforeseen happens) as plan C.

Most likely we would get poor value for any trade right now while simultaneously damaging our our strong QB depth. That's two pretty major negatives.

All that said, we'll see if anything changes during the preseason. I would be very surprised if it did, but you never know until these guys play.

The cap savings alone by not having to pay him 20 million to sit on the bench could go toward beefing up the O line and adding some more weapons for Brock. That is what would increase our odds of winning a SB. Betting on Trey to come off the bench to win a SB without any evidence of him even taking a team into the playoffs is a far stretch.

Also, this is based on Brock continuing to excel this season and Trey not stepping onto the field for any significant time. If Trey gets another opportunity to play this season than all bets are off of course.

I misunderstood you were talking about after this season, I was talking about this year. There is a valid argument for a trade next year in some scenarios, definitely.

This year though, it's just not logical and would more likely hurt the team than help it while also putting us at an incredibly greater risk of not being able to overcome an injury to Brock.

Originally posted by TD49ers:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

49ers QB update
Practice 11

Brock Purdy
11-on-11 reps (all w/ the 1st team): 23
Passing: 9 of 16

Trey Lance
11-on-11 reps: 11
Passing: 4 of 8

Sam Darnold
11-on-11 reps: 14
Passing: 5 of 9, 1 INT

Brandon Allen
11-on-11 reps: 5
Passing: 1 of 2

— Matt Maiocco (@MaioccoNBCS) August 8, 2023

Interesting. Every single one around 50%? Wonder what the context is today. Defense balling?

Just saw a post on the last page that said Trey had two passes dropped.

The Darnold INT, they just mentioned it was not an INT, it was a sack. He flung it up after the sack, cuz why not. So that one he is not counting, is what the guy said. Sacks are often why these numbers are off, some guys count the result of a play, even when it is clearly a sack.

Yeah, the biggest discrepancy in reps from reporter to reporter are rooted in "Sacks".
1) some don't count the pass attempt if they were "sacked"
2) some do count the pass attempt if they were "sacked"
3) and then there is difference of opinions if the QB was "sacked" before they threw it on the play.

when you factor in all three of those amongst the reporters, you get everyone with different takes.

Does seem like anyone is running away with it ftom a performance standpoint at the QB position. If Purdy is QB1, it would be nice to see him start to take the lead.

Purdy is playing against the starting defense, the others are playing the backups. So it might not be as close as you think. People try to put too much into this preseason stuff.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Why trade bait for next year? Trey's 5th year option is in (I think) 2024. You can trade him after next year. He might be even more valuable with another year of development (again assuming his current improvement trajectory continues.)

Cause his value to other teams would be higher if they know they control him longer. So in turn we get more value in theory

If Brock is truly Shanny's guy long term, I don't see us prolonging the inevitable.

I think the opposite, reason being is, if you think about it, would trading him help our chances at a Super Bowl? Would our depth be better or worse at the position? What real benefit would that be to us this year? Would we get great value? Is it worth the risk?

Right now it sounds like Sam has had a meh camp overall, starting decently and then fading. His NFL track record is not good thus far. He doesn't know the offense as well as Lance and is not the caliber of dual threat that he is either.

If we're being fair and honest, the upside, trustworthiness to make the right decisions based on understanding of the system, the ability to force 11-on-11 in the run game, and the ability to make plays off schedule when things break down all favor Trey.

It just seems like the most sensible idea is to have Trey as plan B and Sam (or Allen if something unforeseen happens) as plan C.

Most likely we would get poor value for any trade right now while simultaneously damaging our our strong QB depth. That's two pretty major negatives.

All that said, we'll see if anything changes during the preseason. I would be very surprised if it did, but you never know until these guys play.

The cap savings alone by not having to pay him 20 million to sit on the bench could go toward beefing up the O line and adding some more weapons for Brock. That is what would increase our odds of winning a SB. Betting on Trey to come off the bench to win a SB without any evidence of him even taking a team into the playoffs is a far stretch.

Also, this is based on Brock continuing to excel this season and Trey not stepping onto the field for any significant time. If Trey gets another opportunity to play this season than all bets are off of course.

I misunderstood you were talking about after this season, I was talking about this year. There is a valid argument for a trade next year in some scenarios, definitely.

This year though, it's just not logical and would more likely hurt the team than help it while also putting us at an incredibly greater risk of not being able to overcome an injury to Brock.

Agreed. Trey isn't going anywhere this year. We have seen a lot more good from Brock than Trey at this point. But its only been 8 games. We need to see Brock play an entire season at a high level before we ever think about moving on from Trey.

Originally posted by Giedi:
20M is the option year value, that can be renegotiated if both are willing.

no.

The fifth-year option got a makeover under the new CBA. Each player selected in the first round of the NFL draft has a team option for a fifth season automatically included in his contract, which extends the four-year rookie contract to a fifth season for a non-negotiable fixed amount. Teams must exercise this option in the time after the conclusion of the player's third regular season but prior to May 3 of the following league year; the deadline for players drafted in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft is May 1, 2023.

NFL.com

Even though I think Purdy is the better QB in the short and long term in comparison to Lance/Darnold - I am proud, and respect, the progress Trey has shown so far. It's still TBD how it translates to a real game but it's progress, and that's all you can ask for this time of the year. I feel exponentially better about Trey now than I did last year, if he has to go in and play. So as a whole, it's a positive for The 49ers - and that's most important.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Giedi:
20M is the option year value, that can be renegotiated if both are willing.

no.

The fifth-year option got a makeover under the new CBA. Each player selected in the first round of the NFL draft has a team option for a fifth season automatically included in his contract, which extends the four-year rookie contract to a fifth season for a non-negotiable fixed amount. Teams must exercise this option in the time after the conclusion of the player's third regular season but prior to May 3 of the following league year; the deadline for players drafted in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft is May 1, 2023.

NFL.com

Yeah, we would have to decline the fifth year option and then negotiate an extension into his rookie scale deal that would add a year.
his current contract is only four years with a fifth year option (decided by the team). If we decline it, it remains four years (like every contract outside of the first round) and we can just negotiate an extension, for however long, if Trey wanted to.

you can do what the Green Bay packers did but I don't think that makes much sense for Lance, could change by the time his contract is up, but who knows. We would have no power in that, where as we have all the power on the fifth year option.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Why trade bait for next year? Trey's 5th year option is in (I think) 2024. You can trade him after next year. He might be even more valuable with another year of development (again assuming his current improvement trajectory continues.)

Cause his value to other teams would be higher if they know they control him longer. So in turn we get more value in theory

If Brock is truly Shanny's guy long term, I don't see us prolonging the inevitable.

I think the opposite, reason being is, if you think about it, would trading him help our chances at a Super Bowl? Would our depth be better or worse at the position? What real benefit would that be to us this year? Would we get great value? Is it worth the risk?

Right now it sounds like Sam has had a meh camp overall, starting decently and then fading. His NFL track record is not good thus far. He doesn't know the offense as well as Lance and is not the caliber of dual threat that he is either.

If we're being fair and honest, the upside, trustworthiness to make the right decisions based on understanding of the system, the ability to force 11-on-11 in the run game, and the ability to make plays off schedule when things break down all favor Trey.

It just seems like the most sensible idea is to have Trey as plan B and Sam (or Allen if something unforeseen happens) as plan C.

Most likely we would get poor value for any trade right now while simultaneously damaging our our strong QB depth. That's two pretty major negatives.

All that said, we'll see if anything changes during the preseason. I would be very surprised if it did, but you never know until these guys play.

The cap savings alone by not having to pay him 20 million to sit on the bench could go toward beefing up the O line and adding some more weapons for Brock. That is what would increase our odds of winning a SB. Betting on Trey to come off the bench to win a SB without any evidence of him even taking a team into the playoffs is a far stretch.

Also, this is based on Brock continuing to excel this season and Trey not stepping onto the field for any significant time. If Trey gets another opportunity to play this season than all bets are off of course.

I misunderstood you were talking about after this season, I was talking about this year. There is a valid argument for a trade next year in some scenarios, definitely.

This year though, it's just not logical and would more likely hurt the team than help it while also putting us at an incredibly greater risk of not being able to overcome an injury to Brock.

Agreed. Trey isn't going anywhere this year. We have seen a lot more good from Brock than Trey at this point. But its only been 8 games. We need to see Brock play an entire season at a high level before we ever think about moving on from Trey.

I think we need both guys this year honestly. Let's say Lance gets traded. If Brock gets hurt and Sam can't come in and keep us afloat, we're screwed.

I wouldn't even trade him for another player until after this year. We have picks we can use while still preserving our depth, and we can recoup those by trading Trey after the season if we so choose.

If we want to keep him on the roster for a fifth year, the only scenario where that would happen is if we declined his fifth year option after this season and extended him like the packers did with Love, just doing a one year extension at a lower price.

The fifth year option is kind of like a franchise tag. We don't have to use it, and it only makes sense in certain situations. People are acting too much like we'll be forced to use it to keep him, which isn't necessarily true.

If he doesn't play at all this year, and is still on the roster, I'm sure he and Kyle and John will have a long discussion about the options then. Those topics/options I'm sure would include: Would he want to be traded, would he want to come back and backup Purdy (assuming he's still firmly got the job on lock at that time), and would he want to be extended beyond the 2024-25 season or test free agency if they opted not to trade him next season either?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by random49er:
You mean you hope it's not with the 9ers. And you're overdoing it with all the adjectives. Putting heavy stock in a guy we already have on the team as a current backup? You just dont like him, and you never will. We get it.

But no one is getting carried away with anything,....you just feel the need to vent every single day about him. It's a personal thing at this point. As others have repeated,...we all want to see what he can do eventually. No stock involved. This is entertainment value.

You hoping and praying he cant ever play again in a 49er jersey is a personal thing way outside of the realm of football.

Emotions over objectively. It's hard to have convos with people like that.

IMO none of these guys are perfect. They all got their warts. Some have shown their's WAY MORE (Sam), but you know they got excuses for that.

From everything reported, It sounds like Lance is having a good camp. Also sounds like Brock is doing well and was already determined to be the man. So is what it is.

You beat the drum daily that Purdy is not even average with nothing to back that up and Kolohe feels the same about Lance..
Like you said, emotions over objectively.
Yes, it is hard to have convos with people like this.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Giedi:
20M is the option year value, that can be renegotiated if both are willing.

no.

The fifth-year option got a makeover under the new CBA. Each player selected in the first round of the NFL draft has a team option for a fifth season automatically included in his contract, which extends the four-year rookie contract to a fifth season for a non-negotiable fixed amount. Teams must exercise this option in the time after the conclusion of the player's third regular season but prior to May 3 of the following league year; the deadline for players drafted in the first round of the 2020 NFL Draft is May 1, 2023.

NFL.com

I think the 5th year option amount cannot be negotiated, but the team and player can agree to an contract extension.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Why trade bait for next year? Trey's 5th year option is in (I think) 2024. You can trade him after next year. He might be even more valuable with another year of development (again assuming his current improvement trajectory continues.)

Cause his value to other teams would be higher if they know they control him longer. So in turn we get more value in theory

If Brock is truly Shanny's guy long term, I don't see us prolonging the inevitable.

I think the opposite, reason being is, if you think about it, would trading him help our chances at a Super Bowl? Would our depth be better or worse at the position? What real benefit would that be to us this year? Would we get great value? Is it worth the risk?

Right now it sounds like Sam has had a meh camp overall, starting decently and then fading. His NFL track record is not good thus far. He doesn't know the offense as well as Lance and is not the caliber of dual threat that he is either.

If we're being fair and honest, the upside, trustworthiness to make the right decisions based on understanding of the system, the ability to force 11-on-11 in the run game, and the ability to make plays off schedule when things break down all favor Trey.

It just seems like the most sensible idea is to have Trey as plan B and Sam (or Allen if something unforeseen happens) as plan C.

Most likely we would get poor value for any trade right now while simultaneously damaging our our strong QB depth. That's two pretty major negatives.

All that said, we'll see if anything changes during the preseason. I would be very surprised if it did, but you never know until these guys play.

The cap savings alone by not having to pay him 20 million to sit on the bench could go toward beefing up the O line and adding some more weapons for Brock. That is what would increase our odds of winning a SB. Betting on Trey to come off the bench to win a SB without any evidence of him even taking a team into the playoffs is a far stretch.

Also, this is based on Brock continuing to excel this season and Trey not stepping onto the field for any significant time. If Trey gets another opportunity to play this season than all bets are off of course.

I misunderstood you were talking about after this season, I was talking about this year. There is a valid argument for a trade next year in some scenarios, definitely.

This year though, it's just not logical and would more likely hurt the team than help it while also putting us at an incredibly greater risk of not being able to overcome an injury to Brock.

Agreed. Trey isn't going anywhere this year. We have seen a lot more good from Brock than Trey at this point. But its only been 8 games. We need to see Brock play an entire season at a high level before we ever think about moving on from Trey.

I think we need both guys this year honestly. Let's say Lance gets traded. If Brock gets hurt and Sam can't come in and keep us afloat, we're screwed.

I wouldn't even trade him for another player until after this year. We have picks we can use while still preserving our depth, and we can recoup those by trading Trey after the season if we so choose.

If we want to keep him on the roster for a fifth year, the only scenario where that would happen is if we declined his fifth year option after this season and extended him like the packers did with Love, just doing a one year extension at a lower price.

The fifth year option is kind of like a franchise tag. We don't have to use it, and it only makes sense in certain situations. People are acting too much like we'll be forced to use it to keep him, which isn't necessarily true.

If he doesn't play at all this year, and is still on the roster, I'm sure he and Kyle and John will have a long discussion about the options then. Those topics/options I'm sure would include: Would he want to be traded, would he want to come back and backup Purdy (assuming he's still firmly got the job on lock at that time), and would he want to be extended beyond the 2024-25 season or test free agency if they opted not to trade him next season either?

We aren't paying a backup 20 million and Trey isn't staying here just to be a bench warmer. Like I said in previous posts. If Trey has to come in at any point during the season for any stretch of time and play's at a high level, than it obviously changes everything.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Why trade bait for next year? Trey's 5th year option is in (I think) 2024. You can trade him after next year. He might be even more valuable with another year of development (again assuming his current improvement trajectory continues.)

Cause his value to other teams would be higher if they know they control him longer. So in turn we get more value in theory

If Brock is truly Shanny's guy long term, I don't see us prolonging the inevitable.

I think the opposite, reason being is, if you think about it, would trading him help our chances at a Super Bowl? Would our depth be better or worse at the position? What real benefit would that be to us this year? Would we get great value? Is it worth the risk?

Right now it sounds like Sam has had a meh camp overall, starting decently and then fading. His NFL track record is not good thus far. He doesn't know the offense as well as Lance and is not the caliber of dual threat that he is either.

If we're being fair and honest, the upside, trustworthiness to make the right decisions based on understanding of the system, the ability to force 11-on-11 in the run game, and the ability to make plays off schedule when things break down all favor Trey.

It just seems like the most sensible idea is to have Trey as plan B and Sam (or Allen if something unforeseen happens) as plan C.

Most likely we would get poor value for any trade right now while simultaneously damaging our our strong QB depth. That's two pretty major negatives.

All that said, we'll see if anything changes during the preseason. I would be very surprised if it did, but you never know until these guys play.

The cap savings alone by not having to pay him 20 million to sit on the bench could go toward beefing up the O line and adding some more weapons for Brock. That is what would increase our odds of winning a SB. Betting on Trey to come off the bench to win a SB without any evidence of him even taking a team into the playoffs is a far stretch.

Also, this is based on Brock continuing to excel this season and Trey not stepping onto the field for any significant time. If Trey gets another opportunity to play this season than all bets are off of course.

I misunderstood you were talking about after this season, I was talking about this year. There is a valid argument for a trade next year in some scenarios, definitely.

This year though, it's just not logical and would more likely hurt the team than help it while also putting us at an incredibly greater risk of not being able to overcome an injury to Brock.

Agreed. Trey isn't going anywhere this year. We have seen a lot more good from Brock than Trey at this point. But its only been 8 games. We need to see Brock play an entire season at a high level before we ever think about moving on from Trey.

I think we need both guys this year honestly. Let's say Lance gets traded. If Brock gets hurt and Sam can't come in and keep us afloat, we're screwed.

I wouldn't even trade him for another player until after this year. We have picks we can use while still preserving our depth, and we can recoup those by trading Trey after the season if we so choose.

If we want to keep him on the roster for a fifth year, the only scenario where that would happen is if we declined his fifth year option after this season and extended him like the packers did with Love, just doing a one year extension at a lower price.

The fifth year option is kind of like a franchise tag. We don't have to use it, and it only makes sense in certain situations. People are acting too much like we'll be forced to use it to keep him, which isn't necessarily true.

If he doesn't play at all this year, and is still on the roster, I'm sure he and Kyle and John will have a long discussion about the options then. Those topics/options I'm sure would include: Would he want to be traded, would he want to come back and backup Purdy (assuming he's still firmly got the job on lock at that time), and would he want to be extended beyond the 2024-25 season or test free agency if they opted not to trade him next season either?

We aren't paying a backup 20 million and Trey isn't staying here just to be a bench warmer. Like I said in previous posts. If Trey has to come in at any point during the season for any stretch of time and play's at a high level, than it obviously changes everything.

We're both in agreement on that, that's why I keep saying there's no way we pickup that option. If he doesn't play this year and he actually wants to stay beyond next year and the team wants the same, they would decline the option and probably do a one year extension.

Look at the average salaries for NFL backups right now, most fall between $5-10 million. If Trey doesn't play at all this year, he'd probably fall in that range too or close if they tried to agree on a one year deal. All super speculative though. It's way early to really know.

Obviously yeah, definitely play time could affect that price too, as well as whether he'd even want to stick around.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by random49er:
You mean you hope it's not with the 9ers. And you're overdoing it with all the adjectives. Putting heavy stock in a guy we already have on the team as a current backup? You just dont like him, and you never will. We get it.

But no one is getting carried away with anything,....you just feel the need to vent every single day about him. It's a personal thing at this point. As others have repeated,...we all want to see what he can do eventually. No stock involved. This is entertainment value.

You hoping and praying he cant ever play again in a 49er jersey is a personal thing way outside of the realm of football.

Emotions over objectively. It's hard to have convos with people like that.

IMO none of these guys are perfect. They all got their warts. Some have shown their's WAY MORE (Sam), but you know they got excuses for that.

From everything reported, It sounds like Lance is having a good camp. Also sounds like Brock is doing well and was already determined to be the man. So is what it is.

You beat the drum daily that Purdy is not even average with nothing to back that up and Kolohe feels the same about Lance..
Like you said, emotions over objectively.
Yes, it is hard to have convos with people like this.

Ferris Bueller said it best……

"You're still here? It's over. Go home. Go!"

OR

We can throw in what Bill Paxton said in aliens…..

"Game over man. Game over!"

Originally posted by YACBros85:
This is the way I see the QB situation. Assuming Trey beats Darnold out for QB2. If Brock continues to play exceptionally well and takes this team deep into the playoffs again. Trey will become trade bait next off season. If Brock, god forbid, gets injured again or struggles for a stretch, Trey will get another opportunity. Depending on how Trey performs and how far he takes this team, he will either be given back the QB1 or there will be a true QB competition next off season.

Finally some sense. People getting waaaay ahead of themselves and THIS season (games) hasn't even started yet lol