Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
The ONLY reason you're diminishing arm talent for a freaking NFL QB is because Brock doesn't check that box.
you were the same poster s**tting on the ability to extend plays, Brock does it and you're tight in the pants over it 😂
yeah in a league where there's a hard cap, you'd think you'd want highest possible talent at the most important position in sports. All these QBs are massively overpaid.
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you WILL have to pay the QB. No one cares if you pay Mahomes or Allen a billion dollars. They're worth it. Paying Daniel Jones or Derick Carr $160,000,000 is not a spot any fan should want to be in. Imo you're in NFL purgatory with that s**t.
We should all want the highest level QB possible. Trying to diminish arm talent for a position that literally is about throwing is silly. The only reason someone would think it doesn't matter is a person that knows our current QB lacks that.
but yes to your point as of today he's dirt cheap and we don't have to pay him for a bit.
Why do you do it to Brock then?
On this subject there are different aspects to arm talent. What Z Wilson has, will get you taken 2 overall, and he flat sucks. BP doesn't just complete passes, the ball is money, almost all the time. So accuracy, is surely a part of arm talent, and BP has that in spades. I would rather decent arm strength, with very high accuracy, than an inaccurate cannon.
Arm talent is also the ability to "massage" throws through the outstretched hands of the DL, change arm angles, throw off balance, throw off the wrong foot, know when to loft or bullet a pass, etc. Steve Young (the real one, not Sam Darnold who is Steve Young 2.0) has talked about this a lot. Purdy ABSOLUTELY has that type of arm talent. He showed more of it in his 8 games last year than we've seen in 20+ years since Garcia/Young days. It's not all about velocity or how far a QB can throw.
That's what I don't understand about NY and a few others' who relentlessly attack this aspect of Purdy's ability. They went on and on about how Jimmy didn't have it and we had to have it. Now we have a QB who does have it, and they're complaining that he can't throw it 70 yards. There is literally ONE quarterback who has everything that they're looking for, and that's Mahomes. And I don't even know if Mahomes would be who he is had Kyle drafted him, because is he "a*****e" enough to battle Kyle for that type of freedom? He doesn't need to do that with Reid, because Reid allows much more freedom with his players.
Why are some wishing for a mythical QB? It's weird.
To be devils advocate and argue the the Pro-Trey's crowd point of view -- they want a Patrick Mahomes. They see Trey as possibly somebody who can turn into Patrick. They want that athleticism, intangibles, and just raw power to oblitierate defenses the way Mahomes can. They see that in Trey, if Kyle will just allow Trey some more reps and a faster development. I see Trey as more of Steve Young than Patrick - but that's just me.
The Pro-Purdy side can see the Joe Montana/Drew Brees aspects of Brock's game. I definitely can see Joe's intangibles a bit in Brock Purdy's game. He's one intenlligent QB that makes things happen with both his arm and his mind.
As for me, I say let the chips fall where they may. As how Kyle is allowing it to happen right now. Have Purdy be QB1 and have Trey continue to develop to the point where hopefully Trey can unseat QB1 - if given the opporutnity. Kyle has both Trey and Brock on their rookie contracts for '24 and I think '25. I say keep them for both years and then let Brock/Trey walk when their rookie contracts are up and you keep the better player.
P.S. if Trey can accept maybe 20+ million
after his 5th year option as a backup QB to Purdy - while Purdy is on his last year of his rookie contract - I'd take that deal in a heartbeat. The QB depth we'll have for the next 3+ years (if Trey is amendable to it and assuming Brock is QB1) - will be unmatched in the NFL.
