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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Guy seems to be a Jack of all trades and classy individual. Like the signing

It's going to be really cool to see how much Wilks pulls here now esp. because his focus and specialty is the secondary. Great timing given we've got DL and LB locked up to the premium.
My whole take on not having a shutdown corner is… there is no shutdown corner no more. NFL rules don't allow one. If you ever look at corner rankings it fluctuates a great deal from year to year. The Howard kid from Miami was like the #1 guy 2 years ago and I just saw a corner ranking list yesterday and he was #20.

I think the key to defensive success is the dline and that's why the 49ers and teams like the Eagles who built up their lines had good defenses. Get some decent corners but spend your money on the line.
Originally posted by Furlow:
We're just pillaging the Panthers at this point lol.

Agree
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Got a feeling we're gonna regret not paying a bit more for a 2-3 year deal
Originally posted by JMC52:
Got a feeling we're gonna regret not paying a bit more for a 2-3 year deal

Possible, kid can play, good DB, great on STs, maybe he wanted just a 1yr deal, glad we got Oliver for 2yrs, kinda wish it was also longer, still young, I like the additions the team made this offseason.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Am I the only one wondering why we can't have nice things in the defensive backfield? Ward was a fantastic acquisition, but he really doesn't scare any offense. And while the D line should take priority, you'd think we could have at least stumbled our way into a shut down corner at least once since 1994. I'm not suggesting we spend a ton of money on one, but why haven't we been able to draft any for so long? They can sometimes be found in later rounds like Sherman and Norman, but we seem to be content to just sign them after their prime. Long list there.

My only guess, like OL, they believe prioritizing elsewhere (DL/LB), that'll be enough to make life easy on the secondary. They believe they can get by with a little less talent. And to your point, they haven't picked and developed a higher end CB. They've had to buy one instead.

I can certainly understand their philosophy but in today's game, you've gotta pass protect with the best of them and defend the pass at a high level too.

That said, if dudes like Banks, Burford, McKivitz, Lenoir, Ambry, Womack. etc. take off and start playing at the higher end of the league, look out!

Dude, you could turn a convo about kickers into one about the O line. Please don't ever change.
[ Edited by SLCNiner on Apr 1, 2023 at 12:01 AM ]
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Am I the only one wondering why we can't have nice things in the defensive backfield? Ward was a fantastic acquisition, but he really doesn't scare any offense. And while the D line should take priority, you'd think we could have at least stumbled our way into a shut down corner at least once since 1994. I'm not suggesting we spend a ton of money on one, but why haven't we been able to draft any for so long? They can sometimes be found in later rounds like Sherman and Norman, but we seem to be content to just sign them after their prime. Long list there.

Josh Norman had 1 great year in a mostly zone D with Carolina and then his plummet to dogs azz started rolling downhill pretty fast from there. Just saying.... not a good example.
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Am I the only one wondering why we can't have nice things in the defensive backfield? Ward was a fantastic acquisition, but he really doesn't scare any offense. And while the D line should take priority, you'd think we could have at least stumbled our way into a shut down corner at least once since 1994. I'm not suggesting we spend a ton of money on one, but why haven't we been able to draft any for so long? They can sometimes be found in later rounds like Sherman and Norman, but we seem to be content to just sign them after their prime. Long list there.

My only guess, like OL, they believe prioritizing elsewhere (DL/LB), that'll be enough to make life easy on the secondary. They believe they can get by with a little less talent. And to your point, they haven't picked and developed a higher end CB. They've had to buy one instead.

I can certainly understand their philosophy but in today's game, you've gotta pass protect with the best of them and defend the pass at a high level too.

That said, if dudes like Banks, Burford, McKivitz, Lenoir, Ambry, Womack. etc. take off and start playing at the higher end of the league, look out!

Dude, you could turn a convo about kickers into one about the O line. Please don't ever change.

Well yeah. He can't kick if they don't block for him. Ask the Packers. LOL
Originally posted by JMC52:
Got a feeling we're gonna regret not paying a bit more for a 2-3 year deal

Don't really see it. He's a backup safety who can maybe play nickel in a pinch and a STer. Safeties in general are very cheap nowadays positionally unless they're like top 5. So are nickels. We got Gipson for peanuts when he couldn't find a team. Safety along with strongside 4-3 LBs are the cheapest positions on defenses nowadays.

Niners being cap strapped means no need to extend contracts and hence pay beyond what is needed. This is Wilks' guy and it's a depth st piece. No need to splurge here extra. Even on Oliver I think it was wise to not make it more than a two year contract. This guy for sure didn't need a further extension lol.
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