QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Purdy has been impressing players in since practice and carried that over to games. He's been playing like he belongs way before his number was called. And players notice that.

And I'm all for it, I hope his elbow heals and he proves again that he's the guy.

His elbow will heal up within time. These operations are pretty straight forward. He will be throwing by April and be up to speed by training camp. No need to worry he will be back to his old self by then.

I think he will have limited participation in OTAs, non throwing drills, walk through type stuff, to keep his head in the game

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Purdy has been impressing players in since practice and carried that over to games. He's been playing like he belongs way before his number was called. And players notice that.

And I'm all for it, I hope his elbow heals and he proves again that he's the guy.

His elbow will heal up within time. These operations are pretty straight forward. He will be throwing by April and be up to speed by training camp. No need to worry he will be back to his old self by then.

throwing in two months.. ?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You don't see a problem with a player putting down TL to media? That's a b**** move. Getting it out in public is airing the dirty laundry of the team. Ask yourself why the guy asked to remain anonymous.. cuz he knows it's a b move. If that guy even exists.. after all he is ''anonymous''. perhaps Matt's invention to get in the news cycle.

I don't see a put down to Trey Lance in this quote. It's not putting Trey Lance down to say the locker room is behind Brock Purdy as the starting QB of this team. Again, this is pro sports. It's not 'unfair' to have a pecking order or hierarchy.

Not everyone wins a prize in the NFL like in junior school

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Purdy has been impressing players in since practice and carried that over to games. He's been playing like he belongs way before his number was called. And players notice that.

And I'm all for it, I hope his elbow heals and he proves again that he's the guy.

His elbow will heal up within time. These operations are pretty straight forward. He will be throwing by April and be up to speed by training camp. No need to worry he will be back to his old self by then.

throwing in two months.. ?

Three months is the standard. February, March, April.... well late April is possible if the op is done quick smart....12 weeks

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
You don't see a problem with a player putting down TL to media? That's a b**** move. Getting it out in public is airing the dirty laundry of the team. Ask yourself why the guy asked to remain anonymous.. cuz he knows it's a b move. If that guy even exists.. after all he is ''anonymous''. perhaps Matt's invention to get in the news cycle.

I don't see a put down to Trey Lance in this quote. It's not putting Trey Lance down to say the locker room is behind Brock Purdy as the starting QB of this team. Again, this is pro sports. It's not 'unfair' to have a pecking order or hierarchy.

Lol it says hell will break loose if TL is named QB1. You don't see that as a TL putdown? How do you think TL would read it?

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Lol it says hell will break loose if TL is named QB1. You don't see that as a TL putdown? How do you think TL would read it?

It says all hell will break loose if Brock Purdy isn't named the starter. It's not a put down to say you feel someone is more qualified than somebody else for a job, whether that be football, banking, construction, flipping burgers. It's not a put down to say someone has earned a job.

I think Trey Lance should read that as he has a lot of work to do to solidify himself among the team and earn the starting job. This is how pro sports is supposed to work. It's supposed to be a merit based system. Things are earned, not given.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Lol it says hell will break loose if TL is named QB1. You don't see that as a TL putdown? How do you think TL would read it?

It says all hell will break loose if Brock Purdy isn't named the starter. It's not a put down to say you feel someone is more qualified than somebody else for a job, whether that be football, banking, construction, flipping burgers. It's not a put down to say someone has earned a job.

I think Trey Lance should read that as he has a lot of work to do to solidify himself among the team and earn the starting job. This is how pro sports is supposed to work. It's supposed to be a merit based system. Things are earned, not given.

Again if you are a coworker of mine say it to my face, not to a reporter 'anonymously'

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Again if you are a coworker of mine say it to my face, not to a reporter 'anonymously'

Who says it hasn't been? I can guarantee you there is a lot more truth telling that happens inside the building than it does in public through the media. We have problems if people are being coddled in private.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by BSofSF:
I don't believe in the ceiling thing. People have spoken of Lance since before he was drafted like he is some theoretical rocket ship with unlimited potential. I actually remember a passionate poster speaking of his unlimited potential. Meanwhile, back on Earth ... Purdy is a very good QB. He was overlooked because of his size. It happens. We were so lucky to find him because it has the potential to neutralize the ticking time bomb that is the Trey Lance pick. The only QB I can remember going from crappy to pretty good in my 50+ years as a Niners fan was Alex Smith. I guess if Trey can show that kind of progression, coupled with his natural gifts, then maybe he could be OK. But Brock Purdy looked like he could be more than OK, he looked like he could be the next Drew Breeze.

Steve Young says hi.

Well, Young certainly wasn't great when he started with us, but I wouldn't grade him out as ever being crappy, other than having the misfortune of following Joe Montana. But if your point is that Trey Lance could be a Steve Young in the making, I'd take it. Lance doesn't seem to have the intuitive "it" factor, though. He seems to play like a dumb robot, not fluidly reacting to the game as it comes to him. I knew when I saw all of that BS tape of him taking QB draws up the middle to the house at North Dakota State that it wouldn't fly in the NFL. It was a stupid trade-up for such an uncertain prospect. I said it loudly at the time on these threads and got shouted down, and now you can see with Purdy what a good young QB looks like. And I'll be happy to eat that humble pie if Lance turns out to be the unlimited upside fantasy guy. I just want the team over this hump. Saw shades of Montana in Purdy's demeanor that got me excited. Have been disappointed with Lance even from my self-imposed low expectations. But Purdy's injury will give him an opening to prove us wrong and steal his job back.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Again if you are a coworker of mine say it to my face, not to a reporter 'anonymously'

Who says it hasn't been? I can guarantee you there is a lot more truth telling that happens inside the building than it does in public through the media. We have problems if people are being coddled in private.

It was anonymous.. wouldn't need to be anonymous if it has already been said man to man, wouldn't need to spill it to Matt either..

Originally posted by Rsrkshn:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
If you look at the last 5 years of this forum there are people who think we should STILL resign Jimmy, but Trey sucks ass, and Purdy is Jesus. lol Make it make sense?

It will never make sense. Excuses are allowed for a 9 year veteran, but not a player who has started 4 games (2 as a rookie, 1 in a monsoon and 1 where he got hurt after 1 nice drive).

Yup ... night and day.... One has started 46 college games and almost went undrafted.

One was a top 3 pick with very little experience, but has elite physical and mental tools....

It shows two things. Fans don't know jack s**t and apparently scouts aren't much better.

It makes no sense to give up on Lance. He's younger than Purdy lol

I guess this is the real question. Yes, Purdy is better than Lance TODAY. But..... one could argue this is as good as Purdy will be. (not a bad thing btw) We only saw him in 8 games ... But if Trey gets to play and shows improvement over time....isn't that the point? He could end up superior to Purdy. Of course nobody knows how that will pan out but again the only way to know is to play. I feel like half posters agree this is a wonderful issue to have, but at the same time we need to get Trey XP..... but others just want Purdy because they already concluded he can grant them the next Lombardi asap so to hell with Lance etc.. It's silly to me.

I concur with what you say. But I would add a few caveats.
1. Purdy will get better. He's bound to. A 23-year-old with only 8 games experience HAS to get better. He has not hit his ceiling yet. He'll get stronger. More accurate. Wiser. That's not saying that Lance's ceiling is not potentially higher. But it's not a guarantee.
2. A lot of supporters are overreacting. Overreaching. Like Purdy's an elite QB. He's not. Yet. it's not beyond imagining that he'll make it to that level, but it's not guaranteed. For him to be the team's long-term solution, he must get to the elite level. That means that he also has to play. That's a conundrum.
3. Purdy and Lance are the same age (half year difference), but I venture that Purdy's a LOT more mature. He possesses a rare calmness and humility. I believe that Lance can learn a lot from just following his example. I think that Lance recognizes that. Purdy definitely has the edge in that department and it's worth a lot.
4. Lance is fortunate in that he has this OTA and preseason to show some significant progress while Purdy is recuperating. If he doesn't, the coach will have some tough decisions to make.

Let's get real

Lance has been sitting around since September doing nothing to improve his game as he can't do much if any footwork. He can do some upper body work in the gym.

So how on earth is he going to have improved his game by now? In a few weeks he can get out on the field and start doing full weight work. But how other than improving his strength is he going to improve in time to be better than Purdy?

He will have to throw a lot of balls and work on his short game and quick release.

He will also have to work on his decision making and processing speed.

You will remember that he used to panic and just start running to early from the pocket once there was pressure. How is that going to stop overnight during the off season?

I cannot see him improving over the off season and taking Purdy's job. Lance will be a back up this coming season and won't be playing unless Purdy gets hurt,

He will likely be fine and himself again. Which is great. Because I think we found something here. He clearly has it between the ears. He has good mechanics and throws an accurate ball. It's not full Tommy John surgery. Just 1 ligament. So I think he will be OK. He will probably be ready by the beginning of next year. I hope for the best and expect a pretty good outcome here.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It was anonymous.. wouldn't need to be anonymous if it has already been said man to man, wouldn't need to spill it to Matt either..

It's anonymous to the public. There are a variety of reasons why that could and should be the case. That doesn't mean said player hasn't said this directly to Lance in private.

You notice how Kyle Shanahan covered his face when he dressed down Purdy after his late-clock throwaway at the end of the 1st half in the Cowboys game? You think he covers his face in film session?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
It was anonymous.. wouldn't need to be anonymous if it has already been said man to man, wouldn't need to spill it to Matt either..

It's anonymous to the public. There are a variety of reasons why that could and should be the case. That doesn't mean said player hasn't said this directly to Lance in private.

You notice how Kyle Shanahan covered his face when he dressed down Purdy after his late-clock throwaway at the end of the 1st half in the Cowboys game? You think he covers his face in film session?

We can agree to disagree but the culture I respect with a ballclub is you keep stuff like this in the locker room, not leak it anonymous to media.

And local reporters whose job it is to cover the club; cover it in a positive light or bring just the facts; don't bury players, add to drama, pot stir, etc.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:
Purdy has been impressing players in since practice and carried that over to games. He's been playing like he belongs way before his number was called. And players notice that.

And I'm all for it, I hope his elbow heals and he proves again that he's the guy.

His elbow will heal up within time. These operations are pretty straight forward. He will be throwing by April and be up to speed by training camp. No need to worry he will be back to his old self by then.

I think he will have limited participation in OTAs, non throwing drills, walk through type stuff, to keep his head in the game

Sounds realistic. This freak might learn to throw with his left arm as well lol