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  • Giedi
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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Yeah, my guess of the electric shock feeling was the ulnar nerve. I have had that one aggravated before. Felt 'shocks' down my arm/slight weakness and weird sensation/pain in my elbow. Completely different injury but location wise it made sense. What concerns me also is the possibility of permanent nerve damage here because of the numbness he was experiencing. Not sure if it's from that or the tear. I would think that the numbness in the hand would be from the ulnar being "stretched" the way it was. Maybe it was inflammation of that nerve that caused the numbness and feeling can eventually come back. Guess a dr would know but kinda need to be able to feel a football if you are a qb. Don't wanna guess too much about things though.

If he has nerve damage, he's f**ked.

No reports of nerve damage as far as I know. The fact that he felt pain is a good sign of that, in my non medical amature view.
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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Im heard that the repair surgery has only been done once on a QB. That was on Mullens. Some people (former baseball players) have come on KNBR and said that with a complete tear it's better to do a total replacement. Apparently it's cleaner and has less possibility of complications during healing. If that's true then maybe it would be better to bite the bullet and do it right. Brock is young and has his entire future in front of him. I would hate to see them try to rush him back with a shortcut procedure that ends up needing to be redone later.

Yeah, Tommy John ensures a more stable ligament. A repair is probably a short term fix. Hate to lose him for a year, but it maybe the better option long term.
Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Terrible news for Brock and the 49ers. Was refreshing Twitter all morning and finally gave up around 11ish and told myself I'm not getting worked up about it - he's gonna be ok - a few weeks and he'll be back. This sucks - same feeling I had when Lance went down in week 2.

How can we possibly have such terrible luck with keeping our QBs upright.

Well, don't leave a back up tight end to block Hassan Riddick, maybe?

What could possibly go wrong?

I dunno the removal of Playactoin from the west coast offense?

I think it was supposed to be MM and the TE to block Reddick on that play. For some reason MM shifted over and blocked no one.

But you know that's on Kyle . Protection calls go through the QB and center as well.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jan 31, 2023 at 9:14 AM ]
Originally posted by Dshearn:
I don't think anyone had the expectation in year 3 the 49ers would not know what they had in Trey but a 7th round QB would be ready to put half the QBs in the NFL on the bench.

This is kind of a gift wrapped situation on the Trey front.....

To me this is a non-issue

A. Brock is ready by TC

or

B. Trey gets run time....you get to see what he can and can't do....He either looks like a Franchise QB and the 49ers don't look back....or.... if he falters running the offense, there is absolutely ZERO fear of yanking him for Brock once he is healthy.

If Trey can't hold off a 7th round pick in year 3 of his career....well.... I don't know what to say .... Thank goodness for Brock.

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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Im heard that the repair surgery has only been done once on a QB. That was on Mullens. Some people (former baseball players) have come on KNBR and said that with a complete tear it's better to do a total replacement. Apparently it's cleaner and has less possibility of complications during healing. If that's true then maybe it would be better to bite the bullet and do it right. Brock is young and has his entire future in front of him. I would hate to see them try to rush him back with a shortcut procedure that ends up needing to be redone later.

A more complicated procedure also has risks involved besides a longer recovery period. I'd always side with less complications, you can strengthen that arm outside of doing a more risky surgical procedure in my opinion. Purdy got 5 mph more out of his arm from nonsurgical methods.
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Originally posted by Wrathman:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by glorydayz:
Originally posted by Butter:
Originally posted by 4ML:
Terrible news for Brock and the 49ers. Was refreshing Twitter all morning and finally gave up around 11ish and told myself I'm not getting worked up about it - he's gonna be ok - a few weeks and he'll be back. This sucks - same feeling I had when Lance went down in week 2.

How can we possibly have such terrible luck with keeping our QBs upright.

Well, don't leave a back up tight end to block Hassan Riddick, maybe?

What could possibly go wrong?

I dunno the removal of Playactoin from the west coast offense?

I think it was supposed to be MM and the TE to block Reddick on that play. For some reason MM shifted over and blocked no one.

Boy, if that is true I wouldn't bank on MM being here much longer.
Originally posted by cortana49:

Hahaha
Originally posted by Giedi:
No reports of nerve damage as far as I know. The fact that he felt pain is a good sign of that, in my non medical amature view.

Yeah I mean permanent nerve damage, I would think, in my non med view would be if the nerve was severed or extremely compromised. My guess is inflammation and that feeling would come back when it goes down. Wish the drs touched upon that more in their report.
Brady is not going to be cheap so we won't sign him. We are not going to shell out 30M.
This sucks man. We finally have a franchise QB the entire fanbase can get behind and he gets injured and will be out of commission for a significant amount of time. This was suppose to be a off-season where he can get better like improving his arm strength, etc now he will be rehabbing and MAYBE be ready by training camp

Very concerning
[ Edited by RiceOwensStokes on Jan 31, 2023 at 9:54 AM ]
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Yeah, my guess of the electric shock feeling was the ulnar nerve. I have had that one aggravated before. Felt 'shocks' down my arm/slight weakness and weird sensation/pain in my elbow. Completely different injury but location wise it made sense. What concerns me also is the possibility of permanent nerve damage here because of the numbness he was experiencing. Not sure if it's from that or the tear. I would think that the numbness in the hand would be from the ulnar being "stretched" the way it was. Maybe it was inflammation of that nerve that caused the numbness and feeling can eventually come back. Guess a dr would know but kinda need to be able to feel a football if you are a qb. Don't wanna guess too much about things though.

If he has nerve damage, he's f**ked.

No reports of nerve damage as far as I know. The fact that he felt pain is a good sign of that, in my non medical amature view.

True , no reports of ulnar nerve damage, but with an UCL tear, you have to consider that the ulnar nerve was subjected to the same grossly unnatural force that tore the UCL. No idea if ulnar nerve was torn but GTD it was severely stressed. The fact he was able to throw a tiny bit means the ulnar nerve, even tho traumatized, is still working, and that is a positive sign. The UCL tear, tho, has to be fixed, but the internal artificial ligament procedure, would mean a lot less time off than TJ repair. Remember the snapping of the wrist/ elbow is inherent in pitching but not in throwing a football. The artificial ligament gives him protection at the elbow and isn't subjected to the similar forces a pitcher's elbow requires.

Only question is , no matter which surgery is done, how does Brock's elbow function post op? The old dictum, "no surgery makes things better than they were originally" is key here, but the good news is that for TJ surgery , in-game forces are not the same for pitchers vs Brock's situation. Brock has no need to rotate/snap his wrist/ elbow to throw a ball. That is the best thing i can see thru all this.

As for the ulnar nerve, it can always be moved…or transposed, if you will. I had that done over 25 yrs ago and they just move the nerve from where it was in ulnar notch to mid forearm. Makes no difference in function and protects it. So he should be okay nerve wise , even tho ulnar nerve got traumatized also.

An equally big question is how the 9ers handle moving forward. Man , if there ever were a sticky wicket, this is it. Again i stress the absolute necessity of being certain our QB is protected and that means upgrading the R side of the OL if possible. With no 1st of 2nd rd picks, that is going to be tough. Worse, McG is the best FA out there. This has to be one of the toughest problems 49ers have to figure out. But pulling a RT and assuming a TE could handle Riddick was not a great choice. Yes McG got beaten also at least once but the TE blocking Riddick? Ye gads.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Jan 31, 2023 at 10:05 AM ]
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Baseball pitchers generally face accuracy issues after TJ. No significant loss of velo, but they can't spot the ball like they used to.

I hope Brock avoids all that. He deserves better.
Originally posted by TyCore:
Baseball pitchers generally face accuracy issues after TJ. No significant loss of velo, but they can't spot the ball like they used to.

I hope Brock avoids all that. He deserves better.

Throwing a pitch in baseball is also different mechanically then throwing a football.

Pitchers use their elbow more, which is why UCL injuries impact them more compared to QBs.
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Originally posted by linkboy:
Originally posted by TyCore:
Baseball pitchers generally face accuracy issues after TJ. No significant loss of velo, but they can't spot the ball like they used to.

I hope Brock avoids all that. He deserves better.

Throwing a pitch in baseball is also different mechanically then throwing a football.

Pitchers use their elbow more, which is why UCL injuries impact them more compared to QBs.

Yeah, I'm just hoping.

This has been an absolute f**king disaster.

I'm not doom and gloom, or sour grapes really, just the reality of our situation is a friggin' nightmare.

I can't remember a competent organization having to deal with this much garbage.
Originally posted by MBNINER90266:
Brady is not going to be cheap so we won't sign him. We are not going to shell out 30M.

I think he'd settle for $29.8 million.
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