Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Its cool. I haven't watched the all 22 either. But if the ball was tipped at the LOS than no, it wouldn't be considered a TWP.
What about when it's tipped by the same defender who proceeds to intercept the ball?
You could go on and on all day long with these scenarios but is it really going to help make any progress in this conversation?
Hence the reason some don't take what PFF says as the end all be all on everything.
To answer your question with a question. Can a defender make a great play without the offense being at fault?
Absolutely! My turn. Could the offense have made an even better play (or throw in this instance), not giving the defender a chance to make a great play?
In your made up scenario. A tipped pass can just be a great play by the defender. And anyway, you can start recording your own set of stats with your own set of definitions. You are free to do so. But picking a play here and there and saying, this is happening too often or at a high rate without any reference point to compare to is worse than relying on a reputable stat site that pays folks to do it for a living.
Why so salty? Where did I say those things? I said like two per game. I stated that I didn't watch the All-22 for clarity and could be wrong and change my mind. If you are finding what I'm saying offensive or something then we can simply end this conversation