QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by JEP83:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

https://www.outkick.com/49ers-quarterback-brock-purdy-backs-up-his-test-results/

Among all of NFL players and specifically the quarterbacks, Purdy tested in the top 3 percent. His results rate with the likes of Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and, in a particularly important way, with Drew Brees.

Hmm https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2941963-report-justin-fields-scored-similarly-to-joe-burrow-on-nfl-draft-cognitive-test.amp.html

You seem hellbent on putting Purdy down in any way possible. Not sure what the motivation is?

I will give you two guesses bc I am too lazy tonight to look it up.

He is a Jimmy lover.
He is a Tret lover.

No room in his heart for Brock.

He hates Jimmy. He loves trey. Problem solved.

I still do not get the Trey love. I get that if everything clicks for him he will be a monster with his physical traits. The same thing could have been said of Logan Thomas though.

Whatever it is, it sucks for the people that are so hell-bent on Trey being the guy. We have possibly one of the best stories in NFL history currently being written on our team, and instead of enjoying it they're all pissed off because of Trey Lance .

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by cortana49:
Ok, I'm not a great observational fan of QB skills, but I DO have eyes. I read this snippet in an article...

It's never easy playing quarterback in the NFL, but Purdy might as well have the softest landing pad to work with. The 49ers are so good that Purdy's evident limitations (happy feet and poor mechanics, hello!) in the pocket probably won't come back to bite them against the Seahawks.

and was like … really? That's NOT what I see at all. Someone tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. (full article here)

Thanks.

To be more specific, his comment about the "happy feet and poor mechanics" had me doing the Jordan laugh.

I don't think it can be discounted how good of a situation Purdy has been put into with guys like CMC, Deebo (though he's mostly been absent during Purdy's tenure), Kittle, Aiyuk, Kyle's offense etc. He's been helped tremendously by that as any QB would be. That said, I'm not sure what the dude is talking about in terms of Purdy's mechanics or happy feet. They seem at worst fine, and actually seem pretty good. He has a very natural throwing motion and seems comfortable throwing from different arm angles. He does have a tendency to break the pocket too soon, but he is a rookie, so not that surprising.

No he doesn't.

You're right. He's perfect.

Not perfect. He just doesn't have a tendency to break the pocket too soon. Like, at all.

Independent of the result of this play (which was a great throw to Kittle) do you think it was necessary for him to abandon the pocket on this play?

His primary read on the right side was covered and he knew Crosby was going against Mike "swinging gate" McGlinchey, so he bought himself extra time by spinning out to his left. He didn't "abandon" the pocket, he simply moved and reset his base to his left. And threw a touchdown pass. On an absolutely beautiful throw to Kittle.

THIS is your example of "a tendency" to break the pocket to soon? Try again. Maybe get with Random and come up with some pictures with arrows on them.

In principle he could have stepped up, but this was erring on the side of caution. Also, if you miss the timing, you need to make your throw shorter in such a tight window, which is precisely why rollouts and boots are called in the red zone (as well as the run-fake aspect). A little Pythagoras should show that by rolling out that throw to Kittle was probably a shorter distance.

(this is obviously approximate, but it's meant to show the reasoning on how by the end of the play, if that's where he was destined to go, it's easier to make if you are outside the pocket)



Regardless, he may not always be right about when to leave the pocket, but claiming that means he has "happy feet" is just malarkey.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Here's a play where the pocket is actually collapsing, but instead of leaving the pocket unnecessarily like the other play, Purdy just causally steps up in the pocket and delivers the ball.

More 49ers Brock Purdy for Rookie of the Year propaganda pic.twitter.com/PTZXBlDojw

— Brad (@Graham_SFN) January 10, 2023

One thing I suspect everyone is forgetting here is the play call. Some plays have routes that have to be hit at a certain moment, others have routes where timing is less crucial. And sometimes the progressions happen to go in such a way that if you can't hit the first one on time, or the second, the third one will be ready to break open at that time.

This may have contributed to why he stayed in the pocket here and escaped the pocket against the Raiders. I'll let the people who are not lazy examine the plays to determine that.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Brock Purdy baseball mechanics on full display here with the sidearm throw to Kittle.

85 needs to come down with the ball. pic.twitter.com/dnG6IW7ln9

— Christian (@ChristianR_Vill) January 9, 2023

The different arm angles posters have been clamoring for.

BTW, Kittle can't be dropping easy passes like this on Saturday. He has a "tendency" ( ) in the playoffs.

looks like kittle needs to tilt his jug machine

He's just not used to a QB being able to do that. = official story.

Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
https://www.outkick.com/49ers-quarterback-brock-purdy-backs-up-his-test-results/

Among all of NFL players and specifically the quarterbacks, Purdy tested in the top 3 percent. His results rate with the likes of Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and, in a particularly important way, with Drew Brees.

Hmm https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2941963-report-justin-fields-scored-similarly-to-joe-burrow-on-nfl-draft-cognitive-test.amp.html

You seem hellbent on putting Purdy down in any way possible. Not sure what the motivation is?

Not putting him down, just wish there was a list of scores available to help know what to make of this test. It's one thing to say he scored near the top with guys like Josh Allen, Burrow, and Brees, but who are the other guys at the top? Where did guys like Mahomes rank (if they took it at all).

All other things being equal, do you think it helps a QB to be more or less intelligent? No one said that the test was the ONLY aspect that makes a QB good. So you inserting Fields in this discussion to undermine the importance of Purdy's intelligence is yet another example of passive aggressive negativity.

It obviously doesn't hurt that Purdy did well on it.

Agreed

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

Originally posted by JEP83:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
BCB's success is tearing the fan base apart.

This is why we can't have nice things.

nah. It's just a long week.

That and some people are just miserable people. Never happy with anything. Always looking for the negatives instead of just enjoying that the last pick in the draft is doing a great job.

Damn. We're in the playoffs with essentially our third string quarterback. Players are healthy. Let's go!

100% agreed.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by cortana49:
Ok, I'm not a great observational fan of QB skills, but I DO have eyes. I read this snippet in an article...

It's never easy playing quarterback in the NFL, but Purdy might as well have the softest landing pad to work with. The 49ers are so good that Purdy's evident limitations (happy feet and poor mechanics, hello!) in the pocket probably won't come back to bite them against the Seahawks.

and was like … really? That's NOT what I see at all. Someone tell me this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. (full article here)

Thanks.

To be more specific, his comment about the "happy feet and poor mechanics" had me doing the Jordan laugh.

I don't think it can be discounted how good of a situation Purdy has been put into with guys like CMC, Deebo (though he's mostly been absent during Purdy's tenure), Kittle, Aiyuk, Kyle's offense etc. He's been helped tremendously by that as any QB would be. That said, I'm not sure what the dude is talking about in terms of Purdy's mechanics or happy feet. They seem at worst fine, and actually seem pretty good. He has a very natural throwing motion and seems comfortable throwing from different arm angles. He does have a tendency to break the pocket too soon, but he is a rookie, so not that surprising.

No he doesn't.

You're right. He's perfect.

Not perfect. He just doesn't have a tendency to break the pocket too soon. Like, at all.

Independent of the result of this play (which was a great throw to Kittle) do you think it was necessary for him to abandon the pocket on this play?

His primary read on the right side was covered and he knew Crosby was going against Mike "swinging gate" McGlinchey, so he bought himself extra time by spinning out to his left. He didn't "abandon" the pocket, he simply moved and reset his base to his left. And threw a touchdown pass. On an absolutely beautiful throw to Kittle.

THIS is your example of "a tendency" to break the pocket to soon? Try again. Maybe get with Random and come up with some pictures with arrows on them.

In principle he could have stepped up, but this was erring on the side of caution. Also, if you miss the timing, you need to make your throw shorter in such a tight window, which is precisely why rollouts and boots are called in the red zone (as well as the run-fake aspect). A little Pythagoras should show that by rolling out that throw to Kittle was probably a shorter distance.

(this is obviously approximate, but it's meant to show the reasoning on how by the end of the play, if that's where he was destined to go, it's easier to make if you are outside the pocket)



Regardless, he may not always be right about when to leave the pocket, but claiming that means he has "happy feet" is just malarkey.

POTD already. Great stuff. Red lines and everything, should go over well with everyone.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

So the highest rated passer in the NFL since he came in is 33rd best? I mean really lol.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I give the outsiders the benefit of the doubt, because they're not invested in the result. I think Purdy is better than 33, but I haven't watched film of every other QB in the league and I'm not impartial. I'll defer to those that have watched every QB and don't have a specific rooting interest to put things into context.

I'm sure this has been posted, but it's still great:



Also this video reiterates the point about the angle of the throw changing based on the launch point, and why scrambling may have been right even if there wasn't pressure.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I give the outsiders the benefit of the doubt, because they're not invested in the result. I think Purdy is better than 33, but I haven't watched film of every other QB in the league and I'm not impartial. I'll defer to those that have watched every QB and don't have a specific rooting interest to put things into context.

Not a bad list, I'd put Purdy at 5-6 though ahead of Jackson, Hurts, and maybe Brady because of his age.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/ranking-the-2023-nfl-playoff-qbs-josh-allen-patrick-mahomes-headline-list-of-14-signal-callers/

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Updated QB rankings for the playoffs: https://qbrankings.theringer.com/

Always interesting to see how impartial analysts from outside the fan base see things.

WHAT'S AT STAKE
At some point over the next month, the 49ers will need Brock Purdy to make a play in a big moment. Kyle Shanahan's offense has protected him throughout his surprise run during the regular season, but playoff football is different. The best defenses make it harder to hide a flawed quarterback—even for a play-calling genius like Shanahan. How Purdy responds to that challenge will likely determine his fate in San Francisco. He's probably done enough to earn a shot at a starting job next year—even if it's on another team. But with a few more wins, the 49ers might be willing to give him theirs.

Purdy isn't the 33rd best QB. I'm going to say it right now: He is better than Jimmy. He's a straight up better QB.

The thing these rankings tend to get wrong is forgetting how important just finding the open guy is. Burdy is ahead of Jimmy at that, and he's ahead of many QBs at that which are ranked above him in this list.

These "outsiders" aren't familiar enough with Shanahan's scheme to know when the QB plays above the scheme. For example, Kittle's second TD against the Seahawks. That play was designed for McCaffrey, and McCaffrey was opened, and Jimmy is throwing that 100% of the time. But the Seahawks busted the coverage, and Brock had the VISION to see it, and and nerve to pull the trigger.

I don't know. I give the outsiders the benefit of the doubt, because they're not invested in the result. I think Purdy is better than 33, but I haven't watched film of every other QB in the league and I'm not impartial. I'll defer to those that have watched every QB and don't have a specific rooting interest to put things into context.

They ranked him 10 spots below Jimmy G and below Colt McCoy. I'm sorry, but that's just a bad ranking.

UNLESS the reason they have him low is because they believe his play will DIP. If they believe he will turn into a pumpkin, that's different. If the ranking is based on how he's played so far, then it's a laughable ranking of him.