QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Montana:
I don't think Josh is dumb, I just think my qb can perform better under pressure

Looks like a neck & neck Brock vs Josh for MVP. Maybe they gotta play in the SB and settle this SBMVPurdy

There's basically zero chance the Bills are going to the Super Bowl with their current team. They're giving up 29 points a game. It's like they're facing this year's 49ers offense every week on average, lol.

Besides we're going to get a cheapie SB win against the Browns. It is written.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
There's basically zero chance the Bills are going to the Super Bowl with their current team. They're giving up 29 points a game. It's like they're facing this year's 49ers offense every week on average, lol.

Besides we're going to get a cheapie SB win against the Browns. It is written.

You keep saying it's written, let it be so

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by boast:
doesn't matter if they were recovered or not. his fumbles have killed important drives forcing them to settle for FGs. not having his fumbles result in turnovers is mostly luck. you CAN NOT put the ball on the ground against defenses in post season. you can downplay this issue but he's been reckless with his handle.

but only ONE 4th quarter comeback in his 15 postseason games and that was last year.

This is largely in part because his defense gives up the game in these situations consistently. In drives that have occurred in the 4th quarter, with 3 minutes or less and the Bills down by 8 or less, Allen has successfully lead a drive to go ahead or tie in 66 percent of his opportunities (4 of 6 I believe). The Bills have won 1 of those games.

To the fumbles, just to illustrate a point let's count every one of Allen's 15 fumbles as actual turnovers. Across 15 playoff games, combined with his 6 interceptions, he would have 38 total touchdowns to 21 total turnovers. Brock Purdy across his 8 playoff games, has 9 total touchdowns and 6 total (actual) turnovers. That's again pretending Allen had 11 turnovers he didn't actually have. Pretty sure we all think Purdy responds well in pressure situations right?

The Bills have averaged 27.5 points per game in Allen's playoff starts. A lot of those games with bad weather conditions. His defense has only allowed less than 27 points in a loss once, and that was his first trip to the playoffs in his 2nd season. The offense has rarely been the problem.

Basically everything you could possibly look at outside of the Bills actually winning the Super Bowl points to Allen being a great player in pressure situations, regular season or playoffs.

you have to get to the SB to win a SB. Josh hasn't been good enough leading his team in the post season to get that chance. stats dont win games.

again my comment was about being chokey in pressure moments... ie. the postseason. dont confuse that opinion with thinking i'm saying he sucks. he doesn't suck. he's a top QB and the AFC East was pretty easy to dominate for him after Brady left and before Maye's arrival. he basically had five years of automatic playoff bids.

Marino was a great player but he too was kinda chokey in the postseason. great players can be kinda chokey and still make the HoF.

oh and since you brought him up and to bring this thread back on topic
Brock Purdy has proven multiple times to actually be clutch in the postseason. two 4th quarter comebacks and four game winning drives in half as many postseason games as Allen.

Originally posted by boast:
you have to get to the SB to win a SB. Josh hasn't been good enough leading his team in the post season to get that chance. stats dont win games.

again my comment was about being chokey in pressure moments... ie. the postseason. dont confuse that opinion with thinking i'm saying he sucks. he doesn't suck. he's a top QB and the AFC East was pretty easy to dominate for him after Brady left and before Maye's arrival. he basically had five years of automatic playoff bids.

Marino was a great player but he too was kinda chokey in the postseason. great players can be kinda chokey and still make the HoF.

oh and since you brought him up and to bring this thread back on topic
Brock Purdy has proven multiple times to actually be clutch in the postseason. two 4th quarter comebacks and four game winning drives in half as many postseason games as Allen.

I understood the point you were trying to make and I addressed it directly. Teams win games. Winning the Super Bowl, which is something we haven't done with Purdy or anybody else in 30+ years, is a team accomplishment. The last time we were there, we lost to the same team that beat the Bills in the playoffs (multiple years in the row). The Bills scored more against that team than we did and they did it in frigid weather conditions, without overtime. Their kicker missed a 44 yard field goal to tie the game with less than 2 minutes left. Josh Allen's fault, I guess. And our team was a hell of lot better than the Bills around the QB. Better offense, better defense, better coaching staff. They had two all pro quality skill position players on offense outside of their QB. We had 5… every starter.

I didn't bring Allen up. There are multiple posts where he's referenced including the one right before my first in this current exchange.