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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49ers81:
You know your QB is playing well when his thread drops to the 19th position on the forum board. Nice not to have to endure the endless back and forth of Steve vs Joe, Alex vs Kap, Jimmy vs -- well, just about everybody, the brief but laughable Trey is God phase, and even the Mac is better than Brock foolishness of last year. Hopefully, Brock will hold down the position for as long as he's here and plays well enough to avoid the usual sniping. Go Niners!

Well I guess you won't like a future thread titled "Brock Purdy vs Kurtis Rourke"❗

I like Rourke. He hasn't played much but in the little we've seen I think he will make it easy for the team to let Jones move on next year. He looks like he has some decent traits but, at the moment, it's impossible to know with the small sample size if he possesses Brock's ability to process and see the field which is what puts him above a lot of other QBs who may have better physical traits.
The best thing about having Purdy play so well is to see the various butt-hurt draftniks and nerds tie themselves in knots trying to explain how wrong they have been all along. The Herbert-truthers are the best, though I will always have a soft spot for the Dak-believers too (the tragedy is that Prescott seems to be a good egg as a person. But he ended up playing for the worst team of all).
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Didn't one time Nick Mullens told Kyle to shut up? Maybe it is the same thing this time..Kyle might have went on and on about what to do and what to look for.

that could be it sometimes a player knows they are on their heels and just give me the play call man i don't need all your extra stuff, brock is dialed
He's been a top 5 QB since he started in the Miami game with one mediocre season after the SB loss. Media is dumb as s**t and only looks at the physical features of QBs.

One big thing I want to point out that hasn't been discussed is the racial bias toward black QBs in the league. I understand they were discriminated against much earlier not getting opportunities that maybe they deserved but now the pendulum has swug completely around the other way.

Guys like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud, and Jayden Daniels are no where close to the QB that Purdy is and he has more PLAYOFF wins than all of them. Yet no one EVER says something negative about them in a large part due to race. Example of this is when Dan Orlovsky pointed out predraft how he heard Fields was last to arrive at practice and first to leave (highly doubt he was lying given how big of a bust Fields was especially with processing). He had to immediately apologize as he was claimed to be a racist.

Big pretty boy QBs with nothing between their ears like Allen (never made a SB, 0-4 to the chiefs, insanely bad turnovers in multiple playoff games) and Herbert (never won a playoff game, worst QB in the league this year by every statistic measure) are treated like Gods by media.
Originally posted by jimmy3233:
He's been a top 5 QB since he started in the Miami game with one mediocre season after the SB loss. Media is dumb as s**t and only looks at the physical features of QBs.

One big thing I want to point out that hasn't been discussed is the racial bias toward black QBs in the league. I understand they were discriminated against much earlier not getting opportunities that maybe they deserved but now the pendulum has swug completely around the other way.

Guys like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud, and Jayden Daniels are no where close to the QB that Purdy is and he has more PLAYOFF wins than all of them. Yet no one EVER says something negative about them in a large part due to race. Example of this is when Dan Orlovsky pointed out predraft how he heard Fields was last to arrive at practice and first to leave (highly doubt he was lying given how big of a bust Fields was especially with processing). He had to immediately apologize as he was claimed to be a racist.

Big pretty boy QBs with nothing between their ears like Allen (never made a SB, 0-4 to the chiefs, insanely bad turnovers in multiple playoff games) and Herbert (never won a playoff game, worst QB in the league this year by every statistic measure) are treated like Gods by media.

LOL
Originally posted by jimmy3233:
He's been a top 5 QB since he started in the Miami game with one mediocre season after the SB loss. Media is dumb as s**t and only looks at the physical features of QBs.

One big thing I want to point out that hasn't been discussed is the racial bias toward black QBs in the league. I understand they were discriminated against much earlier not getting opportunities that maybe they deserved but now the pendulum has swug completely around the other way.

Guys like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud, and Jayden Daniels are no where close to the QB that Purdy is and he has more PLAYOFF wins than all of them. Yet no one EVER says something negative about them in a large part due to race. Example of this is when Dan Orlovsky pointed out predraft how he heard Fields was last to arrive at practice and first to leave (highly doubt he was lying given how big of a bust Fields was especially with processing). He had to immediately apologize as he was claimed to be a racist.

Big pretty boy QBs with nothing between their ears like Allen (never made a SB, 0-4 to the chiefs, insanely bad turnovers in multiple playoff games) and Herbert (never won a playoff game, worst QB in the league this year by every statistic measure) are treated like Gods by media.

Lol
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Originally posted by jimmy3233:
He's been a top 5 QB since he started in the Miami game with one mediocre season after the SB loss. Media is dumb as s**t and only looks at the physical features of QBs.

One big thing I want to point out that hasn't been discussed is the racial bias toward black QBs in the league. I understand they were discriminated against much earlier not getting opportunities that maybe they deserved but now the pendulum has swug completely around the other way.

Guys like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud, and Jayden Daniels are no where close to the QB that Purdy is and he has more PLAYOFF wins than all of them. Yet no one EVER says something negative about them in a large part due to race. Example of this is when Dan Orlovsky pointed out predraft how he heard Fields was last to arrive at practice and first to leave (highly doubt he was lying given how big of a bust Fields was especially with processing). He had to immediately apologize as he was claimed to be a racist.

Big pretty boy QBs with nothing between their ears like Allen (never made a SB, 0-4 to the chiefs, insanely bad turnovers in multiple playoff games) and Herbert (never won a playoff game, worst QB in the league this year by every statistic measure) are treated like Gods by media.

Lamar Jackson is a 2x MVP. Daniels and Stroud were first rounders who always get the benefit of the doubt, regardless of race ie Herbert and Burrow. And Jalen Hurts has been criticized a lot despite the fact that he has ring. So I think you're only looking at one side of the coin there.

Please just this year....



Originally posted by jimmy3233:
He's been a top 5 QB since he started in the Miami game with one mediocre season after the SB loss. Media is dumb as s**t and only looks at the physical features of QBs.

One big thing I want to point out that hasn't been discussed is the racial bias toward black QBs in the league. I understand they were discriminated against much earlier not getting opportunities that maybe they deserved but now the pendulum has swug completely around the other way.

Guys like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud, and Jayden Daniels are no where close to the QB that Purdy is and he has more PLAYOFF wins than all of them. Yet no one EVER says something negative about them in a large part due to race. Example of this is when Dan Orlovsky pointed out predraft how he heard Fields was last to arrive at practice and first to leave (highly doubt he was lying given how big of a bust Fields was especially with processing). He had to immediately apologize as he was claimed to be a racist.

Big pretty boy QBs with nothing between their ears like Allen (never made a SB, 0-4 to the chiefs, insanely bad turnovers in multiple playoff games) and Herbert (never won a playoff game, worst QB in the league this year by every statistic measure) are treated like Gods by media.



Poor, little white guy Purdy can't catch a break. But Allen and Herbert who are also white, are over praised? Because they are big? I do think Allen is over glazed some but nothing between the ears? Lol. Lamar was the leader of the all time passer rating until Purdy just now passed him. But I guess he is nowhere near as good as Purdy? Slow Wednesday I guess. Gotta do better than this.
Hell has frozen over. Nick Wright through week 6 has ranked Brock Purdy ahead of Patrick Mahomes.
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Originally posted by 49ers81:
I like Rourke. He hasn't played much but in the little we've seen I think he will make it easy for the team to let Jones move on next year. He looks like he has some decent traits but, at the moment, it's impossible to know with the small sample size if he possesses Brock's ability to process and see the field which is what puts him above a lot of other QBs who may have better physical traits.

Well I think Kyle can tell whether or not Kurtis has that processing ability. Mike Shanahan was a former QB and I'm sure in practice - Kurtis is able (or not) to show how fast he processes reading defenses to both Kyle and Mike.

Point being is that Kurtis is a taller, a bit better arm, maybe almost as accurate and maybe almost as fast a processor as Purdy. We won't know till we see him play in a real NFL game. But I do like what Kurtis did in preseason - and would love a QB controversy between Kurtis and Brock. That means Kurtis is as talented as Brock.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Hell has frozen over. Nick Wright through week 6 has ranked Brock Purdy ahead of Patrick Mahomes.

Huh I still think he is a nitwit
But hell does seem chilly all of a sudden
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Originally posted by paulk205:
The best thing about having Purdy play so well is to see the various butt-hurt draftniks and nerds tie themselves in knots trying to explain how wrong they have been all along. The Herbert-truthers are the best, though I will always have a soft spot for the Dak-believers too (the tragedy is that Prescott seems to be a good egg as a person. But he ended up playing for the worst team of all).

Chris Simms still trying to give it all to Shanny to cover up his pre-season QB rank of 17 for Brock is funny
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Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by jimmy3233:
He's been a top 5 QB since he started in the Miami game with one mediocre season after the SB loss. Media is dumb as s**t and only looks at the physical features of QBs.

One big thing I want to point out that hasn't been discussed is the racial bias toward black QBs in the league. I understand they were discriminated against much earlier not getting opportunities that maybe they deserved but now the pendulum has swug completely around the other way.

Guys like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, CJ Stroud, and Jayden Daniels are no where close to the QB that Purdy is and he has more PLAYOFF wins than all of them. Yet no one EVER says something negative about them in a large part due to race. Example of this is when Dan Orlovsky pointed out predraft how he heard Fields was last to arrive at practice and first to leave (highly doubt he was lying given how big of a bust Fields was especially with processing). He had to immediately apologize as he was claimed to be a racist.

Big pretty boy QBs with nothing between their ears like Allen (never made a SB, 0-4 to the chiefs, insanely bad turnovers in multiple playoff games) and Herbert (never won a playoff game, worst QB in the league this year by every statistic measure) are treated like Gods by media.



Poor, little white guy Purdy can't catch a break. But Allen and Herbert who are also white, are over praised? Because they are big? I do think Allen is over glazed some but nothing between the ears? Lol. Lamar was the leader of the all time passer rating until Purdy just now passed him. But I guess he is nowhere near as good as Purdy? Slow Wednesday I guess. Gotta do better than this.

Ooft, I'm going to weigh in on this given I'm a bit older.

Now, to be fair, there's always been a size and arm strength thing at QB across the board. In the 80's everyone raved about big and big armed QB's like Marino and Elway, which led to many being resistant to recognizing Montana as better because he operated a new offense that required reading the field, timing and accuracy.

However, you're right, there was a bias against black QB's in the 80's and 90's and it was rightly called out and addressed. The problem is that the correction got conflated into a separate issue; there were a number of phenomenally athletic QBs who could play out of structure, but evaluators were too scared to be labelled racist if they pointed out that those QB's didn't always have to if the QB was black. If they missed a read, but the athleticism bailed them out, then the valid critique of missing the read was considered discriminatory or hateful and that continues to this day.

This has led to the current QB evaluation process being all about who can run around and throw bombs in backyard chaos rather than who can operate best in the structure of the offense. Now it seems to be thought that you can just teach a great athlete to be a great QB because it is assumed the mental side of the QB position can be learned by anyone. Where as what we're actually seeing now (and Brock exemplifies this) is that the mental attributes required to execute an offense are as exclusive as the physical attributes. You can improve, like you can improve your throwing technique, but there is a limit on how far you can go.

Allen will probably win MVP if the Bills reach the playoffs because he'll have these great chaotic highs that everyone remembers as a "wow how did he do that" and his head scratching poor plays will be forgotten about like they never happened.

The sign of a master of his craft is that he makes the difficult and complex things look simple and easy; that's what Brock is doing, but it won't impress the voters because it doesn't look sensational and because he was the last pick in the draft.
Yep about the big arm fixation, like with Favre, ppl compared Tom's physical traits to him and ppl were very reluctant to give him praise, even after he got a trophy. Guess he proved them wrong.

Montana, Tom, Brock are more cerebral type players that display finesse and thoughtful use of their bodies, the bigger guys can rely too much on physicality to get things done. If Brock had Allen's body, would it mean we would have the perfect qb? I wouldn't be fast to say yes on that. I think there is a certain drive that "smaller qbs" have because they are aware of their size and how that plays a part.

But I am not sure why the strong focus on the arm size when goats like Montana, Brees, Brady all were "smaller" in structure.
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