QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They didn't have Aiyuk all year and Pearsall has played about half the time. Even Kittle missed some games. They should be used to not having them by now. Their receivers are still better than Buffalo's. Allen made a TD throw yesterday with a guy in his face while falling backwards. It was a 30 yard rope right on target. All arm. That was a great throw that very few QBs can make.

Why are you bringing up Allen?

The 49ers are not talented at WR.

I include Kittle when I talk about receivers and Jennings and Pearsall when on the field are better than what Buffalo has. I only mentioned Allen to point out what I consider a great throw. Not just a good one or one that most QBs can make.

I don't know why people get so defensive when anyone points out a flaw in Purdy's game or says he didn't have a great game. We used to criticize Montana and Young when they didn't have a good game and threw a couple INTs. Nobody lost their s**t over it when we did. When Brock plays great and has a good game I acknowledge it. I only pointed out that he didn't have a good game yesterday to emphasize it was other things that won that game. Receivers like Robinson stepping up in a big game when he was mostly a nonfactor all year. The defense playing tighter coverage instead of allowing receivers to get wide open all day. Kyler designing a good game plan to exploit the holes in Philly's D. It wasn't an amazing performance by the QB that won that game.

Purdy is a big reason why they won. He was great down the stretch, instrumental in 2 Q4 touchdowns that won the game. Yes, it took other great performances too - CMC, Robinson, Jennings, Kendricks, Wallow, Sigle, etc. Team game.

Interesting that on the post game show all three hosts started by saying it wasn't a good game for Purdy. Then they proceeded to talk about the things the team did well. They weren't being Purdy haters. They always praise him when he plays well. Making some good plays doesn't mean you had a good game. I've rarely seen a game where even a QB having a terrible game doesn't make some plays. If they happpens at the right time then it makes up for some of the bad stuff.

Hurts had a bad game yesterday but his recievers dropped some passes that were very catchable. If they make some of those catches his numbers look better and the outcome of the game may be different. It's football and it's why looking at stats without seeing the game can be deceiving. Hurts isn't nearly as good a QB as Purdy but he's had some very good games to go with his bad ones.

Originally posted by Silky:

Originally posted by NinerTy:
Brock needs lots of help. OLine, TE, RB, #1 WR. And that is just the offensive side of the ball. The DLine needs and ER, WS and SS LB's, FS, at least. I love Brock's mentality. He kind of reminds me of Favre. Brock has confidence and is very intelligent.

There was one Brady Pats SB team in the early 2000s where Brady had no weapons. He was throwing to scrappy guys like Troy Brown and David Patton who played well within the system. He also has average TEs too. Difference was Brady. He was a game changer in the playoffs. We need Brock to channel that inner Brady

Great defense + efficient and smart play by Brady.

In the end, Purdy, depsite his two mistakes, lead the team to a game winning TD and that is what we pay him for. Stepping up in the pocket to avoid the rush and seeing CM and connecting was one of his best plays yesterday. For Seattle he'll need to not make the interceptions and step up his game. I hope having Trent back will help to solidify the OL. Let's see what Shanahan learned from week 18 and how Purdy responds.

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Brock overcame two pretty egregious INTs imo, which shows he's got the moxie/ice in the veins to take this team anywhere.

Kyle and Brock will always give this team a chance. I just need Brock to be cool with throwing the ball away, take a sack or check-down on those early downs vs tossing those type of INTs.

In fairness to Brock he is making these decisions in collapsing and irregular pockets. That contributes to the "looks good to me" mentality.

I'm not gonna harp on him too much, he played great football outside of those two plays….the first INT was totally on him imo.

Clean pocket bad throw. I think there was a checkdown available there on 2nd and 7


That second INT, the play was toast. Pocket destroyed… it was 1st and 10. He's gotta be cool with taking a sack there instead of just tossing it up for grabs.


like I said Brock brushed it off and helped win the game, no hate just feel like those INTs tend to happen when it's somewhat avoidable. Throw it away, take the sack, checkdown on those early down plays…live to fight another down.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I generally think you are a good poster, but every so often you post a doozy like this that makes me reconsider.

Jesus man.

Brock played real well last night. He had two brain fart INTs, but brushed it off a won the game.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I generally think you are a good poster, but every so often you post a doozy like this that makes me reconsider.

Jesus man.

Brock played real well last night. He had two brain fart INTs, but brushed it off a won the game.

I don't know why Brock gets the credit when they win and when they lose Kyle gets the blame. Brock led the game winning drive but guys made plays. CMC made a great move to get open on that game winning toss. Brock did a good job stepping up in the pocket. Kyle had a good play called. It wasn't about Brock winning the game.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
They didn't have Aiyuk all year and Pearsall has played about half the time. Even Kittle missed some games. They should be used to not having them by now. Their receivers are still better than Buffalo's. Allen made a TD throw yesterday with a guy in his face while falling backwards. It was a 30 yard rope right on target. All arm. That was a great throw that very few QBs can make.

Why are you bringing up Allen?

The 49ers are not talented at WR.

I include Kittle when I talk about receivers and Jennings and Pearsall when on the field are better than what Buffalo has. I only mentioned Allen to point out what I consider a great throw. Not just a good one or one that most QBs can make.

I don't know why people get so defensive when anyone points out a flaw in Purdy's game or says he didn't have a great game. We used to criticize Montana and Young when they didn't have a good game and threw a couple INTs. Nobody lost their s**t over it when we did. When Brock plays great and has a good game I acknowledge it. I only pointed out that he didn't have a good game yesterday to emphasize it was other things that won that game. Receivers like Robinson stepping up in a big game when he was mostly a nonfactor all year. The defense playing tighter coverage instead of allowing receivers to get wide open all day. Kyler designing a good game plan to exploit the holes in Philly's D. It wasn't an amazing performance by the QB that won that game.

Purdy is a big reason why they won. He was great down the stretch, instrumental in 2 Q4 touchdowns that won the game. Yes, it took other great performances too - CMC, Robinson, Jennings, Kendricks, Wallow, Sigle, etc. Team game.

Interesting that on the post game show all three hosts started by saying it wasn't a good game for Purdy. Then they proceeded to talk about the things the team did well. They weren't being Purdy haters. They always praise him when he plays well. Making some good plays doesn't mean you had a good game. I've rarely seen a game where even a QB having a terrible game doesn't make some plays. If they happpens at the right time then it makes up for some of the bad stuff.

Hurts had a bad game yesterday but his recievers dropped some passes that were very catchable. If they make some of those catches his numbers look better and the outcome of the game may be different. It's football and it's why looking at stats without seeing the game can be deceiving. Hurts isn't nearly as good a QB as Purdy but he's had some very good games to go with his bad ones.

Okay I'll bite and play this game:

Did Caleb Williams have a good game on Saturday?

Did Russell Wilson have a good game in the 2014 NFC Championship?

Did Brady have a good game in Super Bowl 51?

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Okay I'll bite and play this game:

Did Caleb Williams have a good game on Saturday?

Did Russell Wilson have a good game in the 2014 NFC Championship?

Did Brady have a good game in Super Bowl 51?

Russ absolutely did not have a good game in the nfc title no matter how it ended.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Okay I'll bite and play this game:

Did Caleb Williams have a good game on Saturday?

Did Russell Wilson have a good game in the 2014 NFC Championship?

Did Brady have a good game in Super Bowl 51?

Russ absolutely did not have a good game in the nfc title no matter how it ended.

I'm curious what his response is. My guess is he'll say all three had bad games because he pretty much has to to keep his point proven. But something else tells me if you were to ask him 24 hours ago he would say "oh yeah they all played great! They know how to WIN! Give me WINNERS our team needs those!!"

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I don't know why Brock gets the credit when they win and when they lose Kyle gets the blame. Brock led the game winning drive but guys made plays. CMC made a great move to get open on that game winning toss. Brock did a good job stepping up in the pocket. Kyle had a good play called. It wasn't about Brock winning the game.

Meh we need all of it to work together to get the W. Brock has been amazing on 3rd downs this yr. That's good play calling BUT good QB play as well.

overall I think he plays well in a muddy pocket and can extend plays. He's never gonna have that elite arm and that's okay.

Kyle could call the perfect play all game, doesn't mean s**t if guys can't execute it. We gotta stop acting like these players are robots and will just run the perfect route, throw the perfect pass and make the right read and all they need is a HC to call the right play.

like I said earlier, I just need Brock to be cool with checking it down, taking a sack or throwing the ball away on those early downs….I'm all for making big time plays BUT those plays are few and far between. Live to fight another down instead of gifting them a easy INT

ill add I don't think W/L are on the backs of one HC or one player most times.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
nobody said he didn't make important, difficult, good plays. But you can't throw 2 pics a game and play football in the NFL.

Purdy has thrown at least one pic in four consecutive games. Hopefully will break that streak next week.

Montana threw 3 in the Divisional
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198412290sfo.htm

And 2 more in the NFCCG
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198501060sfo.htm

In 1985 when they won the SB.

...and the defense bailed him out.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Meh we need all of it to work together to get the W. Brock has been amazing on 3rd downs this yr. That's good play calling BUT good QB play as well.

overall I think he plays well in a muddy pocket and can extend plays. He's never gonna have that elite arm and that's okay.

Kyle could call the perfect play all game, doesn't mean s**t if guys can't execute it. We gotta stop acting like these players are robots and will just run the perfect route, throw the perfect pass and make the right read and all they need is a HC to call the right play.

like I said earlier, I just need Brock to be cool with checking it down, taking a sack or throwing the ball away on those early downs….I'm all for making big time plays BUT those plays are few and far between. Live to fight another down instead of gifting them a easy INT

ill add I don't think W/L are on the backs of one HC or one player most times.

Nick Sirianni is proof positive of that last part.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
nobody said he didn't make important, difficult, good plays. But you can't throw 2 pics a game and play football in the NFL.

Purdy has thrown at least one pic in four consecutive games. Hopefully will break that streak next week.

Montana threw 3 in the Divisional
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198412290sfo.htm

And 2 more in the NFCCG
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/198501060sfo.htm

In 1985 when they won the SB.

...and the defense bailed him out.

I never understood this kind of whatabout statements that woolick is bringing up…clearly different teams that could afford to do certain things.

Brock played great BUT man in some of those moments a sack, checkdown or throwing the ball away is the correct read. Can't turn the ball over vs Seattle. Especially when this team is not very great at creating them on defense.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Brock played great BUT

lol

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Originally posted by Montana:
Lol if Lamar/Mahomes/Allen had that game winning drive and throw to Christian..nobody would be saying that. Even with the ints ppl would just be glazing all day over that. IT IS OK to say Brock is good lol. Yes, the ints had me smh. But damn, Kittle goes out and one might think that would shake him mentally some. They are friends/neighbors/party buds haha and they seem to have a tight connection on and off the field. Doesn't get emotional, doesn't shake him mentally, Brock gets right back to it..with an impressive throw and completion iirc.

Dude doesn't have Pearsall, Kittle, little B Aiyuk..and still Brock and Shanny found a way to win. It's just impressive on a creative level, a precision level and an execution level.

Why ppl say Brock is good..like they are holding in a fart? All uncomfortable and holding back..let it go lol. It's ok to say he is good lol. When Kittle went out, dude, I was like..we are down to a half stick of bubble gum and two cotton balls. I didn't think we would come out with a w. But everyone just showed the hell up. It was great.

Russell Wilson threw 4 INTS and had a 0.0 passer rating for 56 minutes of a playoff game yet everyone worshipped him after the game.

Purdy plays decently against one of the best pass defenses in the entire league on the road in the playoffs with only two bad plays and it's "he didn't play well."

I've never seen the goalposts get moved so much for a QB. Ever.

nobody said he didn't make important, difficult, good plays. But you can't throw 2 pics a game and play football in the NFL.

Purdy has thrown at least one pic in three out of his last four games. Hopefully will break that streak next week.

CMC handing the ball to the Defender really shouldn't be counted against Purdy.

that is totally correct. fixed