QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Find someone that loves you as much as DL loving Purdy.

For real. I like David's commentary and info he provides but I also think he overly relies on data. Data is important but you can't always tell the complete picture when using solely data. A lot goes into a players evaluation and there are so many variables in football that it's hard to break it down with only data.

according to Lombardi, tua would of been "elite" a couple years ago if you just used data points, which is a joke.

an example is the bears vs 49ers game, DL said it was an "all time great game", I'd disagree. It was one of the worst defensive performances I've ever seen in nfl history. There was a ton of god awful football in it. Great offense doesn't make it a "great game" IMO. It was an exciting game, but does that classify it as an all time great? Idk. Not to me. A great game is great defense vs great offense and they're slugging it out. Great offensive plays are stopped by great defense and great offensive plays are made while the defense has great coverage etc. that to me is an awesome game to watch

lolwut?

that definitely was an all time great game.

If you consider great offense as the only requirement for a great game, then sure. Why even have a defense then? Just play 7-7 and every game would be like it. Go be a fan of the arena football league then.

like I said, it was exciting but for as much great offense as there was, there was equally terrible f**kin football. I'm glad we won, no doubt, but calling it an all time great game of football is silly to me. Football is a team sport with 3 phases for a reason. Not just offense

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Find someone that loves you as much as DL loving Purdy.

Lombardi would do the same s**t with Jimmy G lol

Originally posted by GoldenMountain:
I honestly can't really tell, is Lombardi 100% serious or is his account some sort of act? It's one thing to say Brock is playing better than Stafford, but straight delusional to say Brock is a far better QB than Stafford. Also those charts are somewhat misleading because they don't show big differences, it's only visually like that because of how the x/y axis values are set up.

He's 100 percent serious. He made outrageously dumb arguments using the same metrics with Jimmy G.

It's one thing to base the entire argument on stats/advanced stats… but he doesn't dig very deep into the numbers and it's readily available.

A couple weeks back he replied to one of the bigger analytics guys on twitter with a question related to Purdy and epa/p, and the guy responded with a more nuanced chart that wasn't favorable to Lombardi's point. Absolute silence afterwards, lol. Was funny.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by GoldenMountain:
I honestly can't really tell, is Lombardi 100% serious or is his account some sort of act? It's one thing to say Brock is playing better than Stafford, but straight delusional to say Brock is a far better QB than Stafford. Also those charts are somewhat misleading because they don't show big differences, it's only visually like that because of how the x/y axis values are set up.

He's 100 percent serious. He made outrageously dumb arguments using the same metrics with Jimmy G.

It's one thing to base the entire argument on stats/advanced stats… but he doesn't dig very deep into the numbers and it's readily available.

A couple weeks back he replied to one of the bigger analytics guys on twitter with a question related to Purdy and epa/p, and the guy responded with a more nuanced chart that wasn't favorable to Lombardi's point. Absolute silence afterwards, lol. Was funny.

I don't think he understands the X & Os of football in a granular level, which is fine, but he acts like he does through advanced analytics. Like I don't think he can break down plays and responsibilities of players and why. If that makes sense?

a point you've long made is that sometimes the performance of a player speaks more to the greatness of Kyle's scheme and play calling, than it does to the actual player - at least that's how I've interpreted it.

I think the perfect example is how well Mac jones advanced analytics have looked this year. DL keeps saying we have 2 of the top qbs in the nfl. Well Brock and Mac are playing in the same system Jimmy G did and guess what - he ranked high in those same metrics (for the most part). To me, that really is a credit to shanny and his scheme/play calling. Than it is to all three being elite

then you turn on the film and see how they execute and all three execute the same stuff drastically different, with Brock doing it the best IMO.

that's why advanced analytics should be supplemental data coupled with film and context to the team/roster/situation etc. a lot of variables. Great analytics doesn't necessarily mean you're an elite player. He also always uses the same specific analytics, like you said. There are tons you can look at and combine etc

Anyone know where to buy a legit/stitched Purdy Jersey??

Seems like they barely make any "real" jerseys anymore. The only types that are close enough are jerseys from the Nike "Elite" series.

Been looking everywhere and can't find anything.

Originally posted by niner4life21:
Anyone know where to buy a legit/stitched Purdy Jersey??

Seems like they barely make any "real" jerseys anymore. The only types that are close enough are jerseys from the Nike "Elite" series.

Been looking everywhere and can't find anything.

Order from Chyyna via Ebay, lol.

Originally posted by niner4life21:
Anyone know where to buy a legit/stitched Purdy Jersey??

Seems like they barely make any "real" jerseys anymore. The only types that are close enough are jerseys from the Nike "Elite" series.

Been looking everywhere and can't find anything.

I didn't realize till just now that they barely do that anymore. Damn that's crazy and sucks. I have a badass P Willis jersey that's official and stitched, it was a great gift.

my brother got me a really nice jacket, like letterman's, that's official and has all the niner stuff stitched.

inguess I'd suggest seeing what juices wife is selling through her partnership with the nfl. Her stuff is pretty badass

Originally posted by tankle104:
I didn't realize till just now that they barely do that anymore. Damn that's crazy and sucks. I have a badass P Willis jersey that's official and stitched, it was a great gift.

my brother got me a really nice jacket, like letterman's, that's official and has all the niner stuff stitched.

inguess I'd suggest seeing what juices wife is selling through her partnership with the nfl. Her stuff is pretty badass

https://www.offseasonbrand.com/en/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/o-4616+t-69373729+z-99255-2847131569
looks limited but the CMC jacket would be cool, depending on your style

nvm f**k all that. Lol I can't believe they don't sell stitched stuff now.

Originally posted by tankle104:
If you consider great offense as the only requirement for a great game, then sure. Why even have a defense then? Just play 7-7 and every game would be like it. Go be a fan of the arena football league then.

like I said, it was exciting but for as much great offense as there was, there was equally terrible f**kin football. I'm glad we won, no doubt, but calling it an all time great game of football is silly to me. Football is a team sport with 3 phases for a reason. Not just offense

that's like saying The Catch game wasn't an all time great game because Montana generally played poorly for most of the game including tossing 3 INTs and losing a fumble

Florio and Simms saying his throwing motion isn't sexy and he doesn't have aura. It's just embarrassing at this point.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If you consider great offense as the only requirement for a great game, then sure. Why even have a defense then? Just play 7-7 and every game would be like it. Go be a fan of the arena football league then.

like I said, it was exciting but for as much great offense as there was, there was equally terrible f**kin football. I'm glad we won, no doubt, but calling it an all time great game of football is silly to me. Football is a team sport with 3 phases for a reason. Not just offense

that's like saying The Catch game wasn't an all time great game because Montana generally played poorly for most of the game including tossing 3 INTs and losing a fumble

Not the same thing at all. Lol

Originally posted by tankle104:
https://www.offseasonbrand.com/en/nfl/san-francisco-49ers/o-4616+t-69373729+z-99255-2847131569
looks limited but the CMC jacket would be cool, depending on your style

nvm f**k all that. Lol I can't believe they don't sell stitched stuff now.

Lol I like her styles but I tend to gravitate to other type of stuff. And yes, stitched is the way too go. Looks a bit cheap and goddy when it's not. It's like, jerseys are expensive af and they can't have stitched? Cheap. All about the most profit for the least amount of effort these days.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If you consider great offense as the only requirement for a great game, then sure. Why even have a defense then? Just play 7-7 and every game would be like it. Go be a fan of the arena football league then.

like I said, it was exciting but for as much great offense as there was, there was equally terrible f**kin football. I'm glad we won, no doubt, but calling it an all time great game of football is silly to me. Football is a team sport with 3 phases for a reason. Not just offense

that's like saying The Catch game wasn't an all time great game because Montana generally played poorly for most of the game including tossing 3 INTs and losing a fumble

Not the same thing at all. Lol

1981 - offense played poorly the whole game then made the play at the end to win the game

2025 - defense played poorly the whole game then made the play at the end to win the game

not the same at all.

Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:
Florio and Simms saying bud throwing motion isn't sexy and he doesn't have aura. It's just embarrassing at this point.

I mean, I think that's a legit reason why Brock isn't more popular in general. It wasn't meant as criticism of his ability. You have to admit the way the ball fires off Caleb's hands is aesthetic af. Brock is developing that aura though with his elite play + Purdougie variations. That TD to Juice too seemed to finally force people to admit he's a playmaker.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Find someone that loves you as much as DL loving Purdy.

For real. I like David's commentary and info he provides but I also think he overly relies on data. Data is important but you can't always tell the complete picture when using solely data. A lot goes into a players evaluation and there are so many variables in football that it's hard to break it down with only data.

according to Lombardi, tua would of been "elite" a couple years ago if you just used data points, which is a joke.

an example is the bears vs 49ers game, DL said it was an "all time great game", I'd disagree. It was one of the worst defensive performances I've ever seen in nfl history. There was a ton of god awful football in it. Great offense doesn't make it a "great game" IMO. It was an exciting game, but does that classify it as an all time great? Idk. Not to me. A great game is great defense vs great offense and they're slugging it out. Great offensive plays are stopped by great defense and great offensive plays are made while the defense has great coverage etc. that to me is an awesome game to watch

lolwut?

that definitely was an all time great game.

Lol it was one of the worst defensive games ever. It was exciting but in no way shape or form was it an all time great game.