QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
On a 3rd and 3 in the 2nd quarter I believe, Purdy could have EASILY run for a first down. Instead, he opted for an off balance, off the wrong foot throw that traveled 35 yards in the air for a huge completion to Robinson. The reason you didnt call this a "YOLO ball" is because he threw an accurate pass for a big completion.

That play was absolutely no different than a couple of the plays you criticized in recent weeks because they were inaccurate throws that were picked off. All of them were plays that had a safer/easier option that Brock chose against. The only difference is that the one this week was incredibly accurate, while the ones in the past weeks were not. They were the same situations, where an accurate throw would have resulted in a big play.

This is why I had an issue with your posts in the past couple of weeks and why I have an issue with you insinuating that he kept the YOLO balls to a minimum this week. You are letting the accuracy of a pass dictate whether or not the play was the correct play to make, which I find ridiculous.

He probably didn't call it a YOLO pass because Robinson was open with space towards the sideline allowing Brock to throw into an open area with plenty of room for Robinson to adjust to the ball… which is exactly what he did. It was a nice play by Brock and Robinson and not at all like many of the plays he's been criticized for in the past. Do you have a specific play in mind to substantiate this post?

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
On a 3rd and 3 in the 2nd quarter I believe, Purdy could have EASILY run for a first down. Instead, he opted for an off balance, off the wrong foot throw that traveled 35 yards in the air for a huge completion to Robinson. The reason you didnt call this a "YOLO ball" is because he threw an accurate pass for a big completion.

That play was absolutely no different than a couple of the plays you criticized in recent weeks because they were inaccurate throws that were picked off. All of them were plays that had a safer/easier option that Brock chose against. The only difference is that the one this week was incredibly accurate, while the ones in the past weeks were not. They were the same situations, where an accurate throw would have resulted in a big play.

This is why I had an issue with your posts in the past couple of weeks and why I have an issue with you insinuating that he kept the YOLO balls to a minimum this week. You are letting the accuracy of a pass dictate whether or not the play was the correct play to make, which I find ridiculous.

He probably didn't call it a YOLO pass because Robinson was open with space towards the sideline allowing Brock to throw into an open area with plenty of room for Robinson to adjust to the ball… which is exactly what he did. It was a nice play by Brock and Robinson and not at all like many of the plays he's been criticized for in the past. Do you have a specific play in mind to substantiate this post?

I think the obvious comparison is the 2nd interception he threw against the Panthers, which would have been an "easy" TD to Pearsall if Brock throws an accurate pass. He was criticized a lot for not just running for the first down on that play. I don't know if anyone called it a YOLO play, but people definitely criticized him for trying to do too much on that particular play.

Originally posted by Cosmo:
There are also a TON of 1st round QBs who flop simply because they are drafted to the worst teams in the league who don't know how to develop and properly utilize them. System and coaching are as important as measurables IMO.

There are by far more successful QBs taken in the 1st vs on day 3. It's not even close. I'm not sure why you're trying to debate this.

And yes I agree roster/scheme/coaching matters a ton. That also doesn't disprove that tangible traits mean nothing. This is the NFL full of the biggest fastest strongest athletes in the world. Also more guys going early in drafts aren't just "big strong armed" QBs their usually some intangibles traits there as well.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
I think the obvious comparison is the 2nd interception he threw against the Panthers, which would have been an "easy" TD to Pearsall if Brock throws an accurate pass. He was criticized a lot for not just running for the first down on that play. I don't know if anyone called it a YOLO play, but people definitely criticized him for trying to do too much on that particular play.

I think that play required a more difficult pass among some other differences, but I guess I can see the thought behind the comparison.

i hope Purdy never chills out on the gunslinger mentality. more good than bad usually comes from it. in the future, will he lose an important game on an YOLO INT? he's bound to! great ones before him have and greats after him will too. you take the good, you take the bad....yadda, yadda, yadda the facts of life or some s**t.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
On a 3rd and 3 in the 2nd quarter I believe, Purdy could have EASILY run for a first down. Instead, he opted for an off balance, off the wrong foot throw that traveled 35 yards in the air for a huge completion to Robinson. The reason you didnt call this a "YOLO ball" is because he threw an accurate pass for a big completion.

That play was absolutely no different than a couple of the plays you criticized in recent weeks because they were inaccurate throws that were picked off. All of them were plays that had a safer/easier option that Brock chose against. The only difference is that the one this week was incredibly accurate, while the ones in the past weeks were not. They were the same situations, where an accurate throw would have resulted in a big play.

This is why I had an issue with your posts in the past couple of weeks and why I have an issue with you insinuating that he kept the YOLO balls to a minimum this week. You are letting the accuracy of a pass dictate whether or not the play was the correct play to make, which I find ridiculous.

TBH, after looking at that play on youtube several times, I see nothing there that makes me think it was YOLO ball. That's a play that any RH NFL QB rolling out right should attempt IMO.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
TBH, after looking at that play on youtube several times, I see nothing there that makes me think it was YOLO ball. That's a play that any RH NFL QB rolling out right should attempt IMO.

Exactly right. There is a lot of space where that ball can be successfully placed. All credit to Brock's scrambling ability to allow him to be in position to attempt it though.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
On a 3rd and 3 in the 2nd quarter I believe, Purdy could have EASILY run for a first down. Instead, he opted for an off balance, off the wrong foot throw that traveled 35 yards in the air for a huge completion to Robinson. The reason you didnt call this a "YOLO ball" is because he threw an accurate pass for a big completion.

That play was absolutely no different than a couple of the plays you criticized in recent weeks because they were inaccurate throws that were picked off. All of them were plays that had a safer/easier option that Brock chose against. The only difference is that the one this week was incredibly accurate, while the ones in the past weeks were not. They were the same situations, where an accurate throw would have resulted in a big play.

This is why I had an issue with your posts in the past couple of weeks and why I have an issue with you insinuating that he kept the YOLO balls to a minimum this week. You are letting the accuracy of a pass dictate whether or not the play was the correct play to make, which I find ridiculous.

TBH, after looking at that play on youtube several times, I see nothing there that makes me think it was YOLO ball. That's a play that any RH NFL QB rolling out right should attempt IMO.

Oh I totally agree with you. He opted for a 30 yard completion than a 4 yard run for a first down.

Just like I dont consider ththe pick he threw when trying to hit Pearsall that would have been a touchdown if it was thrown accurately, a YOLO ball. It was only described that way because he threw a pick.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Exactly right. There is a lot of space where that ball can be successfully placed. All credit to Brock's scrambling ability to allow him to be in position to attempt it though.

Yup. Brock gets credit because he did make the play. If he had run for the first down in that instance, but the overall play is 20 yards shorter, I still say he made the play....but the better option was the one he chose. However, if a QB on my team always chose the run instead of that option, I'd have a problem.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Oh I totally agree with you. He opted for a 30 yard completion than a 4 yard run for a first down.

Just like I dont consider ththe pick he threw when trying to hit Pearsall that would have been a touchdown if it was thrown accurately, a YOLO ball. It was only described that way because he threw a pick.

Throwing it accurately likely required him to set his feet and put something on the throw. I think Brock touched on this directly IIRC. To me that's pretty different than a pass where you can safely underthrow it and have space to the sideline to work with.

Sometimes I even wonder wtf some people are arguing about in this thread.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Oh I totally agree with you. He opted for a 30 yard completion than a 4 yard run for a first down.

Just like I dont consider ththe pick he threw when trying to hit Pearsall that would have been a touchdown if it was thrown accurately, a YOLO ball. It was only described that way because he threw a pick.

I agree. To me it wasn't a bad decision, as Pearsall has his man beat....it was just a very poor throw. That's a pass I expect my QB to attempt.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Oh I totally agree with you. He opted for a 30 yard completion than a 4 yard run for a first down.

Just like I dont consider ththe pick he threw when trying to hit Pearsall that would have been a touchdown if it was thrown accurately, a YOLO ball. It was only described that way because he threw a pick.

Throwing it accurately likely required him to set his feet and put something on the throw. I think Brock touched on this directly IIRC. To me that's pretty different than a pass where you can safely underthrow it and have space to the sideline to work with.

He also could have safely OVERthrown the pass to Pearsall too. He had steps on his man and a large space in front of him. Its really similar when you really think about it.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Throwing it accurately likely required him to set his feet and put something on the throw. I think Brock touched on this directly IIRC. To me that's pretty different than a pass where you can safely underthrow it and have space to the sideline to work with.

I think it was simply a bad throw, as RP was fairly open when BP released the ball, IIRC.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
He also could have safely OVERthrown the pass to Pearsall too. He had steps on his man and a large space in front of him. Its really similar when you really think about it.

Yes that's what* my post described. The only safe place to put that ball was over the coverage and out in front of Pearsall… which makes it a more difficult pass than one that can be safely underthrown to a sideline (like the pass you highlighted from Sunday's game). Passes requiring more power are harder and makes the decision to throw it on the move, without setting his feet, a much more questionable 'decision' to try and execute it the way Brock did. Like I said, I think Brock mentioned this specifically in post-game comments.