QB Brock Purdy Thread

Brock Purdy did what he should have done against the Panthers, using his legs more. He avoided a lot of sacks by scrambling. It didn't lead to big plays but neutral plays are way better than losing yards because of sacks. I'm not sure but my feeling is that this game would have been harder with Mac Jones under center because he lacks mobility and instinct.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
First of all you spelled condeded wrong The word you're looking for is conceited. It has nothing to do with bragging about seeing those games. I'm just pointing out that I see a difference between great and good. Montana was universally seen as great. There was no question. He may have had the best field vision ever. People tend to over use adjectives like great, unbelievable and fantasric now. It's the world we live in where everything has to be over the top . Just being good isn't enough anymore so every play is unbelievable. Every catch is unreal. Good QBs are called franchise players as if they can't be replaced.

Brock is really good at times and not so good at other times but very few people around the league would call him great. He works for Kyle and that's all that matters.

Oh no, my autocorrect acted up and didn't go back to catch in time. Lol grammar hounds tell me all I need to know (and correcting my grammar in a post full of grammatical errors is kinda lol). Yes, I know the difference between concede and conceit. Should I use them in a sentence? Maybe you should concede that Brock is great but won't because of conceit. Is that better?

Brock is still young in his career, he has done great in the time he has had here. Not without f**k ups, they happen. We will see how it goes but if one just is looking to kinda downgrade the guy cause, well, he isn't Montana, ppl will be constantly disappointed and overlook his achievements. And his achievements here so far have been pretty damn impressive. I am ready for the playoffs

Originally posted by pdc20:
Brock Purdy did what he should have done against the Panthers, using his legs more. He avoided a lot of sacks by scrambling. It didn't lead to big plays but neutral plays are way better than losing yards because of sacks. I'm not sure but my feeling is that this game would have been harder with Mac Jones under center because he lacks mobility and instinct.

It was great to see him use his legs more, definitely more scrambly in this game, which makes me think his toe is doing better. After this game, not worried about his toe anymore really. And we get the bye, that will be more rest for the toe..we come back in good playoff form

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I say good . You say great. Your idea of greatness is much lower than mine. Maybe it's because I saw real greatness in the 80s while attending evewry game.

Ooohhhh now wait just a second now lol....lol lol before you go all condescending and s**t about how you watched games in the 80s..well I did too lol. But I wouldn't use the fact that I did see the games in the 80s to write completely conceded s**t about myself LOL. But congratulations, we both have seen what greatness is.

And yes, I see some of that greatness in Brock..as have Montana, Rice, Marino, Brees, Steve Young, all pretty vocal about it too....but what the hell do those guys know? Lol

First of all you spelled condeded wrong The word you're looking for is conceited. It has nothing to do with bragging about seeing those games. I'm just pointing out that I see a difference between great and good. Montana was universally seen as great. There was no question. He may have had the best field vision ever. People tend to over use adjectives like great, unbelievable and fantasric now. It's the world we live in where everything has to be over the top . Just being good isn't enough anymore so every play is unbelievable. Every catch is unreal. Good QBs are called franchise players as if they can't be replaced.

Brock is really good at times and not so good at other times but very few people around the league would call him great. He works for Kyle and that's all that matters.

Montana was universally seen as so great that his own coach was trying his hardest to replace him with Steve Young lol.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
I think it's pretty clear who they are since they come in here every day to post something about what a fraud Purdy is, and how they never should have paid him, and wouldn't we all be better off if Mac Jones was still playing. Not including you in any of that by the way, just saying that it's a pretty focal minority that is absolutely triggered by anything they can point to that will validate their position. Which is why they had a field day after the Carolina game. "Oh, Brock had three picks, see, he's terrible, put Jones back in."

Yeah, Brock had three picks against Carolina and still helped the team win. Stafford had three turnovers against Carolina and couldn't keep his team from losing. That kind of thing happens in the NFL. But I don't imagine Rams fans are arguing that Stafford should be benched. Sure, he has a more prolific stat sheet than Brock does and has played really well since he's been in LA, but Brock has his own modest pedigree to look back on and, this year especially, a win is a win for the 49ers and they should all be gratefully accepted at this point. But that doesn't mean you can't call Purdy out when he has a bad game. Just that there's a difference between pointing out things you would like to see him improve on and the full-fledged, wingnut rants that some people engage in.

Who? I think there's a massive difference between being critical of the guy who controls the outcome of game with the highest price tag (compared to everyone else) vs flat out hating him.

I think the difference between Stafford's picks and Brock's was the panthers got 14 pts from 2 of them right off the bat.

Originally posted by Montana:
Lol but I have acknowledged the negatives, I just don't go on and on about them in a very redundant type manner.
And say this is Jimmy G part two. Jimmy was good but had nowhere near the football iq/ general iq, mobilty, anticipation, processing that Brock has. No way. The positives far outweigh the negatives regarding Brock. It's cool to point out his mess ups but they are rarely done in a objective manner imo. They seem impulsive and going which ever way the wind blows.

And I don't blindly say this guy is great, he is great. Not perfect but no qb is. I just don't whine everytime this dude messes up..because I know the mess ups are temporary and that he will get back to playing like himself again:).

It's ok, next time he messes up..I will keep it real lol

In your eyes there's no way you can point out his mess ups and still call it objective…that's the problem with having a logical debate with fans. Everyone gets defensive over a take instead of having a honest convo about it.

You think Brock is "great"? Imo that's such a subjective take and it he's great than a bunch of players are great, which just waters down the term "great"

No if he messes up you defect and blame it on just about everything besides the actual player…all because you like him and he plays on your team. When he has a clean game it's all him though, right? Guess his toe is magically fix lol.

Brock did what he had to do to win the game this week…I wouldn't call it some great QBing game, he did what some of us were asking him to do. Run the offense, move around, stop tossing up yolo balls that create easy TOs. Hopefully there's more consistency there the reason of the season.

Considering the hurricane-like winds, the absolute havoc and pressure that Myles Garrett and the rest of the Browns d-line was generating, the devastating toe injury that he's still recovering from, it absolutely was a great game from Purdy. Maybe the greatest game any QB has put together all season considering the circumstances. Downright heroic.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Montana was universally seen as so great that his own coach was trying his hardest to replace him with Steve Young lol.

After being the dude for a decade with injury issues. I mean it's not like Young was a scrub

As someone who was hard on Brock all week, I think it's completely unfair to evaluate his performance against CLE solely based on the box score.

What did people expect in those conditions against arguably the best defense in the league?

It's not like he was just dinking and dunking it every play. He made several strong downfield throws, was clutch on 3rd downs, and used his legs to avoid negative plays, all while the running game was lifeless.

Arrow UP for QB1. The team will need him to play like this moving forward.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
In your eyes there's no way you can point out his mess ups and still call it objective…that's the problem with having a logical debate with fans. Everyone gets defensive over a take instead of having a honest convo about it.

You think Brock is "great"? Imo that's such a subjective take and it he's great than a bunch of players are great, which just waters down the term "great"

No if he messes up you defect and blame it on just about everything besides the actual player…all because you like him and he plays on your team. When he has a clean game it's all him though, right? Guess his toe is magically fix lol.

Brock did what he had to do to win the game this week…I wouldn't call it some great QBing game, he did what some of us were asking him to do. Run the offense, move around, stop tossing up yolo balls that create easy TOs. Hopefully there's more consistency there the reason of the season.

We need Brock to play great in the playoffs. Next 4 weeks he just needs to build chemistry with the guys and keep doing what he's did this week.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Considering the hurricane-like winds, the absolute havoc and pressure that Myles Garrett and the rest of the Browns d-line was generating, the devastating toe injury that he's still recovering from, it absolutely was a great game from Purdy. Maybe the greatest game any QB has put together all season considering the context. Downright heroic.

Oh stop the s**t with the foot injury. It's his 3rd game back. He's been a full participant in practice for weeks. Joe burrow had a grade 3 turf toe and threw for 260 2 TDs in Baltimore with a dogs**t OL his first game back.

Brock did what he had to do to win that game. Massive improvement from the s**t show the week prior. Acting like it was a qb clinic is silly, it was never gonna be like that vs the browns. Run the offense and don't turn the ball over = win vs that team.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Considering the hurricane-like winds, the absolute havoc and pressure that Myles Garrett and the rest of the Browns d-line was generating, the devastating toe injury that he's still recovering from, it absolutely was a great game from Purdy. Maybe the greatest game any QB has put together all season considering the context. Downright heroic.

Oh stop the s**t with the foot injury. It's his 3rd game back. He's been a full participant in practice for weeks. Joe burrow had a grade 3 turf toe and threw for 260 2 TDs in Baltimore with a dogs**t OL his first game back.

Brock did what he had to do to win that game. Massive improvement from the s**t show the week prior. Acting like it was a qb clinic is silly, it was never gonna be like that vs the browns. Run the offense and don't turn the ball over = win vs that team.

I don't know why you won't give Brock even an ounce of grace due to the injury. Just because a guy is a full participant does not mean that he's not being impacted by injuries. Puni was a full participant in practice every week, but still noticeably struggled the first half of the season and most would reasonably chalk that up to his knee injury. There are countless examples of guys being limited by injuries that didn't keep them from practice.

We'll never know to what extent the toe injury has affected Brock either mechanically or just from a rust or timing standpoint, but I see nothing wrong with giving him the benefit of the doubt.

You can't really compare going up against a bad Ravens defense to playing the Browns defense, who are a lot better. Burrow, even when healthy this year, barely threw for over 100 yards against this same defense. We also can't really directly compare their toe injuries. Just because the injuries seem similar doesn't mean their recovery has been the same.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Montana was universally seen as so great that his own coach was trying his hardest to replace him with Steve Young lol.

After being the dude for a decade with injury issues. I mean it's not like Young was a scrub

A LOT of injuries, and nobody was certain after his last one if he'd ever play again. I was heartbroken and thought once he was healthy he should have gotten his job back. We'd have 2 more trophies in the case had that happened...

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Montana was universally seen as so great that his own coach was trying his hardest to replace him with Steve Young lol.

After being the dude for a decade with injury issues. I mean it's not like Young was a scrub

They got Young in 1987, so Montana had 6 good/great seasons at that point and two Super Bowl wins. Many people/pundits called him a system QB, pointing to his physical limitations. Basically the same arguments that we hear about Purdy.

Not saying Purdy is Montana obviously, but let's not pretend that Montana was some untouchable QB. Purdy is the best QB we've had since Steve Young and it's really not close in my opinion. Overall he's been great, but this season he has not been great. I'd say solid/good. That happens over the course of players' careers.