QB Brock Purdy Thread

I think a big thing that's happening now is teams have studied him for years now. Brock is good at slant routes inside. Layered throws over the LB and down and in front of the DB. With timing and anticipation. That middle of the field part is always where his best throws are found. For the most part at least. Now CB's, S's, LB's are coming off of their player and closing out those windows in there. It's obvious where he wants to throw and his best throws are timing and anticipation. He doesn't have the arm strength for deep outs or big bombs down the field. So those middle in routes were his bread and butter. I don't know you you fix this. Those were his best throws and best area of the field. I think other teams are taking that away now. Ravens last year and Panthers this year are defending that middle. Unless he and our offense can come up with something else it's going to be tough. I'm honestly starting to worry. Because it's becoming a big time trend now. His interceptions to the middle of the field used to be his best and most elite throws.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I think a big thing that's happening now is teams have studied him for years now. Brock is good at slant routes inside. Layered throws over the LB and down and in front of the DB. With timing and anticipation. That middle of the field part is always where his best throws are found. For the most part at least. Now CB's, S's, LB's are coming off of their player and closing out those windows in there. It's obvious where he wants to throw and his best throws are timing and anticipation. He doesn't have the arm strength for deep outs or big bombs down the field. So those middle in routes were his bread and butter. I don't know you you fix this. Those were his best throws and best area of the field. I think other teams are taking that away now. Ravens last year and Panthers this year are defending that middle. Unless he and our offense can come up with something else it's going to be tough. I'm honestly starting to worry. Because it's becoming a big time trend now. His interceptions to the middle of the field used to be his best and most elite throws.

Yup. And we all know why we keep trying those middle throws, it's because he doesn't have the arm to through outside the numbers regularly.

It's not looking good.

19 picks in 20 games is a trend.

This is not just one bad game.

He has thrown multiple picks in 3 of his 4 games this year. That is just downright awful.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
you bring up those Packers and Lions games... games where THOSE young teams made idiotic mistakes that got us back in the game. In comparison to Kap in the playoffs and "witted under intense pressure"?

Kap went up against Aaron Rodgers in his prime...had to constantly answer to Aaron (and the Refs) in Green Bay in frigid weather. You think Brock can do that?

you think Brock could have handled those Seahawks teams?

He, like Jimmy, had a f**king 10 pt lead in the Super Bowl...and he couldn't put the Chiefs away with a few conversations. With his arms or his legs. Kap had to help bring us back by how many pts against the F'n Ravens? Ray Lewis, Ed Reed, Terrell Suggs, Haloti Nata, etc? They held the Andrew Luck and the Colts to 9pts, held Tom Brady and the Pats to 13pts.

Again yall bring up Kap on your own. It gets ridiculous when yall try to downplay someone else's accomplishments, to defend/prop up someone who is struggling.

Preach, dude. Kaep had his limitations, but he was a killer and had the ability to carry the team.

I'm glad you mentioned the caliber of defenses he was playing back in 2012-13. Brock crumbles pretty much every time he plays an elite defense.

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I think a big thing that's happening now is teams have studied him for years now. Brock is good at slant routes inside. Layered throws over the LB and down and in front of the DB. With timing and anticipation. That middle of the field part is always where his best throws are found. For the most part at least. Now CB's, S's, LB's are coming off of their player and closing out those windows in there. It's obvious where he wants to throw and his best throws are timing and anticipation. He doesn't have the arm strength for deep outs or big bombs down the field. So those middle in routes were his bread and butter. I don't know you you fix this. Those were his best throws and best area of the field. I think other teams are taking that away now. Ravens last year and Panthers this year are defending that middle. Unless he and our offense can come up with something else it's going to be tough. I'm honestly starting to worry. Because it's becoming a big time trend now. His interceptions to the middle of the field used to be his best and most elite throws.

Yup. And we all know why we keep trying those middle throws, it's because he doesn't have the arm to through outside the numbers regularly.

It's not looking good.

19 picks in 20 games is a trend.

This is not just one bad game.

He has thrown multiple picks in 3 of his 4 games this year. That is just downright awful.

I'm starting to worry honestly now. I've been one of his biggest supporters. I'm not jumping on him yet. But I see a problem now. I can't unsee what I have seen for 2 years now. How can you not see it at this point?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
I'm starting to worry honestly now. I've been one of his biggest supporters. I'm not jumping on him yet. But I see a problem now. I can't unsee what I have seen for 2 years now. How can you not see it at this point?

Being delusional. I am a firm believer that some fans don't like the feeling of accepting that the team does not have a franchise QB. It is pretty depressing. Doubting Brock doesn't make me happy, as some of the delulu fans would like to believe. It's depressing AF, because it casts doubt on the future of the entire team. Where Brock goes, the team goes, and he has not been trending in the right direction for 20 games.

If Brock had an NFL arm and could make different types of throws, I'd be more hopeful. But we all know he lives and dies in the middle of the field, and teams have clearly caught on to that tendency. He clearly has not adjusted.

Originally posted by Crown:
My own personal humble opinion - some people are way overreacting to Purdy's INTs in the game.

Doesn't take much research to see how many good and great QBs have had multi int games in their career. Even our own Montana.

Now if it continues that would warrant the stronger takes.

Full agreement.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
What's arbitrary using all of last yr and this yr? We all agree he played great in 2023. The expectation was/is he would improve as a QB. It's not like he has a totally different play caller or he hasn't had any help/talent around him. No it's not the all-star cast of 2023…so what, in order for him to be good we have to have The Avengers around him, he has to be 100% healthy and it's gotta be 75 and sunny out?

having a discussion on why our $265M QB isn't playing well and really hasn't been very consistent since 2023 is worth having regardless of whatever you just said imo.

It's equally arbitrary with saying that "oh, we must use his whole career to know". Or even "only this year counts". It's a starting point we take to extrapolate a trend based on historical data. Baseball data analysis also has that dilemma. There is no statistical reason to go one or the other way (there are in fact two biases working in opposite ways). He's been starting for us for effectively three seasons now. It's not that long.

Anyway, I don't really want to repeat what I said above. I'm neither a defender nor an opponent of Purdy. I hope he gets back to his best, mainly for the team (which is who I support after all) and also for the lad who seems to be an all round good egg. If he comes back to his best, fantastic. If he goes on sucking, tough cookies, but we'll deal with that in the offseason and beyond. I suspect (but I do not know) that he's not fully healthy yet, mostly based on the shape of his throws (even completed ones). He was never the strongest but the throws seem to be sailing, and may hint at a lack of confidence to plant the foot and drive the ball. With his tendency for deep passing that's a problem. But I'm not his doctor. In any event, we'll find out: there are five regular season games left, and perhaps one (or hopefully more) playoff ones. We can wait for a couple of months before we decide either way.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

I think a big thing that's happening now is teams have studied him for years now. Brock is good at slant routes inside. Layered throws over the LB and down and in front of the DB. With timing and anticipation. That middle of the field part is always where his best throws are found. For the most part at least. Now CB's, S's, LB's are coming off of their player and closing out those windows in there. It's obvious where he wants to throw and his best throws are timing and anticipation. He doesn't have the arm strength for deep outs or big bombs down the field. So those middle in routes were his bread and butter. I don't know you you fix this. Those were his best throws and best area of the field. I think other teams are taking that away now. Ravens last year and Panthers this year are defending that middle. Unless he and our offense can come up with something else it's going to be tough. I'm honestly starting to worry. Because it's becoming a big time trend now. His interceptions to the middle of the field used to be his best and most elite throws.

Yup. And we all know why we keep trying those middle throws, it's because he doesn't have the arm to through outside the numbers regularly.

It's not looking good.

19 picks in 20 games is a trend.

This is not just one bad game.

He has thrown multiple picks in 3 of his 4 games this year. That is just downright awful.

I'm starting to worry honestly now. I've been one of his biggest supporters. I'm not jumping on him yet. But I see a problem now. I can't unsee what I have seen for 2 years now. How can you not see it at this point?

I don't think it's all about weak arms. Getting a receiver like a Lamb or Pickens or Jefferson would change a lot, but Kyle doesn't seem to like receivers like that. Even then I still think it's just part of the Shanahan offense, and that's the gift and the curse of tying the pass game so heavily to the run game. Even Matt Ryans mvp year he led the league in throwing between the numbers. Seems like a Kyle thing to me

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
That because of the easy schedule and getting a new qb in there to mix it up. The Brock offense is just about figured out. He's been picked every game by a roaming player on that dig route and Kyle continues to call it. Either switch it up or use Mac until things start going wrong with him. Then idk what the answer will be for Kyle after that

The offense isn't why Brock is late with the ball.

Hasnt been easy for the offense. Played a lot of top defenses.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by Crown:
My own personal humble opinion - some people are way overreacting to Purdy's INTs in the game.

Doesn't take much research to see how many good and great QBs have had multi int games in their career. Even our own Montana.

Now if it continues that would warrant the stronger takes.

Full agreement.

Crown didn't respond to my question, but I'll ask again: How has his INT problem not continued? 19 picks over 20 games indicates there is an ongoing pattern.

I think what bothers me most with this comp is Brock seems to throw these in bunches.

He had a few opportunities to hit the underneath receiver and not force the tight throw, like that first int when he had Kittle wide open who could have scored.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:

That because of the easy schedule and getting a new qb in there to mix it up. The Brock offense is just about figured out. He's been picked every game by a roaming player on that dig route and Kyle continues to call it. Either switch it up or use Mac until things start going wrong with him. Then idk what the answer will be for Kyle after that

The offense isn't why Brock is late with the ball.

Hasnt been easy for the offense. Played a lot of top defenses.

Yea continuously calling that dig route that defenses are now waiting for doesn't kill a QBs confidence. I get that it was the Brock special at first, but he needs to move away from that for a week or two. And if that's really all he thinks Brock can do then he needs to be benched

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
I don't think it's all about weak arms. Getting a receiver like a Lamb or Pickens or Jefferson would change a lot, but Kyle doesn't seem to like receivers like that. Even then I still think it's just part of the Shanahan offense, and that's the gift and the curse of tying the pass game so heavily to the run game. Even Matt Ryans mvp year he led the league in throwing between the numbers. Seems like a Kyle thing to me

You really believe Ryan wasn't throwing outside the numbers? Just because a QB leads the league in throwing over the middle doesn't mean they don't make other throws on a consistent basis. Brock doesn't make other throws on a consistent basis, and it's not because of Shanahan. It's his lack of arm strength. Why wouldn't Shanahan add another element to his offense if it was something his QB could execute?

Originally posted by mitpdub:
I think what bothers me most with this comp is Brock seems to throw these in bunches.

He had a few opportunities to hit the underneath receiver and not force the tight throw, like that first int when he had Kittle wide open who could have scored.

Brock Purdy has thrown 34 INTs over his first 40 NFL starts. Other QB comps:

Tom Brady: 34
Joe Montana: 37
Kurt Warner: 47
Peyton Manning: 51
Patrick Mahomes: 19
Drew Brees: 37
Steve Young: 35
Justin Herbert: 30
Matthew Stafford: 47
Josh Allen: 31
Brett Favre: 48
Joe Burrow: 29 pic.twitter.com/N96W7ccQAz

— David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) November 26, 2025

Looking at these numbers only and not assessing INT percentages is disingenous/misleading. The Niners have had low pass volume for much of Brock's career. Guys like Herbert, Brees, Mahomes, Manning, Brady, etc. played in pass heavy offenses.

Reading the same s**t over and over is a lot less stressful on the mentals than quoting and posting the same s**t over and over.