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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
You must be reading a different thread. Or please show the posts of people defending the s**t game. No one is making excuses. You are creating an argument that simply isnt there.
Sorry bro gonna have to disagree about that. It's reached Jimmy and Alex level excuses man
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
You say "who cares" about why the interception was thrown, but its absolutely worthy of discussion to talk about why. If you dont want to participate in said discussion, you dont have to.
None of the three interceptions yesterday were examples of "yolo s**t" by the way.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Again, none of the interceptions from yesterday are a result of "playing hero ball." Hero ball isnt throwing to open WRs and throwing the ball off target. Hero ball isnt being fooled by coverage and not seeing a defensive back. Hero ball is launching balls downfield to covered WRs. Hero ball is trying to thread needles for no reason. That isnt what happened yesterday.
It almost does seem like "hero ball" when he's trying to make throws that require a stronger arm and high velocity throws, two things he just doesn't have. Hero ball is constantly throwing picks on 1st and 2nd down, something he did yesterday deep in his own territory as well as in Panthers' territory when he had other safe options. Hero ball is just a term, no need to get all technical about what it means. You know what it means. It means taking unnecessary risks, often to the detriment of your team. The way this guy is playing you'd think we have a top 5 defense. We got lucky last night Saleh had the boys ready to play. Just poor awareness by Purdy and lack of responsibility.
7 picks in 4 starts this year. Could've had 2-3 more yesterday. He has not been successful this year throwing over the middle. Even his best throws this year (deep shot to Purdy vs. SEA, deep shot to Kittle vs. AZ) were outside the numbers.
Isn't it fair to expect the franchise QB to learn from his mistakes? Hasn't the inaccuracy and lack of arm strength been an issue all year? Can we stop pretending that a bad game from Brock is some sort of novel fluke? The "QBs are allowed to have bad games" is such a lazy/dishonest take when Brock has been having the same types of bad games over the course of the past 20+ games.
I disagree with every single word in this post other than you pointing out how many interceptions he has. Every last one.
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Again, none of the interceptions from yesterday are a result of "playing hero ball." Hero ball isnt throwing to open WRs and throwing the ball off target. Hero ball isnt being fooled by coverage and not seeing a defensive back. Hero ball is launching balls downfield to covered WRs. Hero ball is trying to thread needles for no reason. That isnt what happened yesterday.
It almost does seem like "hero ball" when he's trying to make throws that require a stronger arm and high velocity throws, two things he just doesn't have. Hero ball is constantly throwing picks on 1st and 2nd down, something he did yesterday deep in his own territory as well as in Panthers' territory when he had other safe options. Hero ball is just a term, no need to get all technical about what it means. You know what it means. It means taking unnecessary risks, often to the detriment of your team. The way this guy is playing you'd think we have a top 5 defense. We got lucky last night Saleh had the boys ready to play. Just poor awareness by Purdy and lack of responsibility.
7 picks in 4 starts this year. Could've had 2-3 more yesterday. He has not been successful this year throwing over the middle. Even his best throws this year (deep shot to Purdy vs. SEA, deep shot to Kittle vs. AZ) were outside the numbers.
Isn't it fair to expect the franchise QB to learn from his mistakes? Hasn't the inaccuracy and lack of arm strength been an issue all year? Can we stop pretending that a bad game from Brock is some sort of novel fluke? The "QBs are allowed to have bad games" is such a lazy/dishonest take when Brock has been having the same types of bad games over the course of the past 20+ games.
I disagree with every single word in this post other than you pointing out how many interceptions he has. Every last one.
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Again, none of the interceptions from yesterday are a result of "playing hero ball." Hero ball isnt throwing to open WRs and throwing the ball off target. Hero ball isnt being fooled by coverage and not seeing a defensive back. Hero ball is launching balls downfield to covered WRs. Hero ball is trying to thread needles for no reason. That isnt what happened yesterday.
It almost does seem like "hero ball" when he's trying to make throws that require a stronger arm and high velocity throws, two things he just doesn't have. Hero ball is constantly throwing picks on 1st and 2nd down, something he did yesterday deep in his own territory as well as in Panthers' territory when he had other safe options. Hero ball is just a term, no need to get all technical about what it means. You know what it means. It means taking unnecessary risks, often to the detriment of your team. The way this guy is playing you'd think we have a top 5 defense. We got lucky last night Saleh had the boys ready to play. Just poor awareness by Purdy and lack of responsibility.
7 picks in 4 starts this year. Could've had 2-3 more yesterday. He has not been successful this year throwing over the middle. Even his best throws this year (deep shot to Purdy vs. SEA, deep shot to Kittle vs. AZ) were outside the numbers.
Isn't it fair to expect the franchise QB to learn from his mistakes? Hasn't the inaccuracy and lack of arm strength been an issue all year? Can we stop pretending that a bad game from Brock is some sort of novel fluke? The "QBs are allowed to have bad games" is such a lazy/dishonest take when Brock has been having the same types of bad games over the course of the past 20+ games.
I disagree with every single word in this post other than you pointing out how many interceptions he has. Every last one.
The fact that you disagree with any of the bolded questions tells me all I need to know about your (lack of) objectivity. You disagree that the franchise QB should be expected to learn from his mistakes? WTF LOL
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I mean what's worse a bad read or him just not being able to throw an accurate ball?
Then you can discuss if it's was bad mechanics or a late read which lead to an inaccurate placed ball?
either way it's on the QB and there's examples of both.
So what would you call a 30 yard crop hop pass jump ball in the end zone? Had Kittle for an easy 1st down or could have ran it.
Originally posted by SFrush:
Nothing you said was drastic or unreasonable.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
You say "who cares" about why the interception was thrown, but its absolutely worthy of discussion to talk about why. If you dont want to participate in said discussion, you dont have to.
None of the three interceptions yesterday were examples of "yolo s**t" by the way.
I mean what's worse a bad read or him just not being able to throw an accurate ball?
Then you can discuss if it's was bad mechanics or a late read which lead to an inaccurate placed ball?
either way it's on the QB and there's examples of both.
So what would you call a 30 yard crop hop pass jump ball in the end zone? Had Kittle for an easy 1st down or could have ran it.
Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by NYniner85:He was late on his first INT, the one in the RZ I didn't hate BUT he had much safer plays to be made either running for a 1st down or tossing it to Kittle. That play costed them points.
As far as the other play
Did Jaycee Horn make a great play here? Absolutely. But the throw was late because Brock hitched twice after a 7 step drop. Deep dig footwork on their play action drop back is 7 + 1 hitch, not two. That extra hitch allowed Horn to fly across to pick it. pic.twitter.com/3IYFwsq367
— rich madrid (@richjmadrid_) November 25, 2025
Opposing defenses are baiting these throws to the middle and jumping them with perfect timing. pic.twitter.com/noHOdqsqEa
— rich madrid (@richjmadrid_) November 25, 2025
Frustrating in the sense that you can see the possibility for a big play there if the QB is on time and has a strong, accurate, throw. Brock has such a small margin for error with his limited arm strength.
He's not processing/anticipating as quickly as he has in the past. he can't afford to be late (or have the extra hitches) because of the arm talent.
I'm sure he can play better and needs a little time, but overall the inconsistency should start to be discussed
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
You must be reading a different thread. Or please show the posts of people defending the s**t game. No one is making excuses. You are creating an argument that simply isnt there.
Sorry bro gonna have to disagree about that. It's reached Jimmy and Alex level excuses man
Comically absurd take. Cmon now.
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Niner4Life21_:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Again, none of the interceptions from yesterday are a result of "playing hero ball." Hero ball isnt throwing to open WRs and throwing the ball off target. Hero ball isnt being fooled by coverage and not seeing a defensive back. Hero ball is launching balls downfield to covered WRs. Hero ball is trying to thread needles for no reason. That isnt what happened yesterday.
It almost does seem like "hero ball" when he's trying to make throws that require a stronger arm and high velocity throws, two things he just doesn't have. Hero ball is constantly throwing picks on 1st and 2nd down, something he did yesterday deep in his own territory as well as in Panthers' territory when he had other safe options. Hero ball is just a term, no need to get all technical about what it means. You know what it means. It means taking unnecessary risks, often to the detriment of your team. The way this guy is playing you'd think we have a top 5 defense. We got lucky last night Saleh had the boys ready to play. Just poor awareness by Purdy and lack of responsibility.
7 picks in 4 starts this year. Could've had 2-3 more yesterday. He has not been successful this year throwing over the middle. Even his best throws this year (deep shot to Purdy vs. SEA, deep shot to Kittle vs. AZ) were outside the numbers.
Isn't it fair to expect the franchise QB to learn from his mistakes? Hasn't the inaccuracy and lack of arm strength been an issue all year? Can we stop pretending that a bad game from Brock is some sort of novel fluke? The "QBs are allowed to have bad games" is such a lazy/dishonest take when Brock has been having the same types of bad games over the course of the past 20+ games.
I disagree with every single word in this post other than you pointing out how many interceptions he has. Every last one.
The fact that you disagree with any of the bolded questions tells me all I need to know about your (lack of) objectivity. You disagree that the franchise QB should be expected to learn from his mistakes? WTF LOL
Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
It's like you guys don't realize he doesn't zip it when he thinks he has an easy completion. This play did not workout how Kyle drew it up. You could tell Kyle was even a little dumbfounded with how Horn got there
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
You must be reading a different thread. Or please show the posts of people defending the s**t game. No one is making excuses. You are creating an argument that simply isnt there.
Sorry bro gonna have to disagree about that. It's reached Jimmy and Alex level excuses man
Comically absurd take. Cmon now.
Is it really? I'm obviously not talking about just one game (yesterday's). Pretty much all of last year (interceptions) and this year was full of excuses. And it's always everyone else or something other than the QBs fault; in that regard it absolutely is just like how it was with Jimmy and Alex. "No one is making excuses" is a comically absurd take lol
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SFrush:
Nothing you said was drastic or unreasonable.
Agreed.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:Originally posted by CharlieSheen:It's like you guys don't realize he doesn't zip it when he thinks he has an easy completion. This play did not workout how Kyle drew it up. You could tell Kyle was even a little dumbfounded with how Horn got there
I can see that in terms of the actual throw, but he was still late with the extra hitch. I agree he wasn't expecting that defender to be there. It was a great freelance play by Horn but also poor execution from Brock.
