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Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Careful now… you don't want to be objective or make good points here. You may provoke the Purdy fanatics, they don't like anyone to criticize his performance regardless of what he does on the field. They like to reframe the narrative and somehow ill advised throws become awesome attempts and interceptions are bad luck,, and hitting a wide open receiver with no defenders in sight is labeled as threading the needle. Keep your concerns to yourself and turn a blind eye to any flaws.

The reality is this year jones and Purdy are playing at the same level with jones besting Purdy when it comes to protecting the ball. That is a problem and an even bigger one when you factor in salary. Purdy should be playing at a much higher level. Let's hope he does and pray we don't see further decline.

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Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your opinion but I'll use your own words...I think that's baloney.

We don't have to read all the opposing team blogs to hear the discussions in the media and Brock has always been downplayed long before his contract.

Majority of the talking heads declined to give him credit because of the weapons around him. Some acted like the guy had no holes to deal with at all despite our OL being pretty poor in pass protection during that 2023 season.

You want to know why Mac has less "bad decisions"? Because he rarely pushed the ball down the field. For all of you guys sitting here and pretending that Purdy should just check down everything would be the first ones to bash him for not winning games because he's playing too safe. Funny you mention Alex Smith with Harbaugh considering that was his biggest issue here with us. How many times did we complain about him throwing short of the sticks? How many 3 and outs did we have in that Giants NFCCG in 2011?

Wanting to neuter your QB from making big plays because you're afraid of turnovers is loser talk IMO. Yes nobody wants turnovers but do we not understand what our defense is now? This isn't 2011 defense out there. You can't simply punt and have the defense make the stop. We need Brock to go for the big plays but he has to be mindful whether the risk and reward are there.

And the one questionable play from that last game was on 3rd down, 49ers up by 9(should've been 11) I am perfectly fine with him taking that shot. You should be too. Playing safe with this defense is going to lose you more games. What are we afraid of? Ask majority of NFL QBs and they will tell you - QBs shouldn't be afraid of taking shots. Trust your guys unless they give you reasons not to.

As for nitpicking not being a thing...you literally have guys complaining about a 3rd and 15 conversion being a hospital ball and talking about it like it was a bad play. Save it man. That's nitpicking to the nth degree.

I don't want to crush Brock for that 3rd down play because he played pretty well overall, and even a turnover in that situation wouldn't have been a disaster in that situation in this game. It's a bad decision though.

Your point about the need to aggressively push the ball downfield because our defense is bad doesn't really ring true for me. Long sustained drives… keeping our offense on the field and our defense off the field… helps as well. The most important thing is that we don't turn it over, and score touchdowns rather than field goals whether it's through explosive plays, or sustained drives. Explosive plays are great, but they don't need to be forced. Take them when the coverage dictates it.

Overall it was a good game to that end. Actually had some help from special teams and a couple defensive turnovers and had some short fields and we capitalized offensively. No real complaints.
Is Mac a proven play maker? No
Is he a legit scrambling threat? No
Is he aggressive pushing the ball down field? No
Does he play it safe a lot? Yes
Is he tough? Yes
Is he overall a good quarterback? Yes

Is Brock a proven play maker? Yes
Is he a legit scrambling threat? Yes
Is he aggressive pushing the ball down field? Yes
Does he play it safe a lot? No
Is he tough? Yes
Is he overall a good quarterback? Yes

You are almost never going to see Mac scramble out, direct a receiver, and launch it for a big play. You're gonna get more sacks due to lack of escapability. Your offense can still move the ball but will ultimately be less explosive overall, affording less room for error from everyone, and the more plays required increase chances for drive stalling errors or mistakes by other players beyond the QB.
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Montana:
This.

Trying to remember a qb as criticized and under a microscope as BP is. Brady comes to mind. Steve also. When Mac has made any mistakes, nobody really talks about it lol. Why? People are chomping at the bit to find fault with Purdy. Probably cause he got paid, 7th rounder idk. I don't get it, we have some of the most entitled, nitpicking fans in the league lol. A 40 burger win and ppl are complaining lol

I dont really think its exclusive to Purdy. Most Niner fans dont really read other teams sites but most QBs are scrutinized just as much.

I will say tho, Mac is just not a risk taker, so he hasnt made many mistakes and he definitely has very few WTF throws, probably the least amount of them for a Niners QB I've seen since...I dont know, Alex Smith under Harbaugh ? That doesnt mean hes the best QB or anything, simply means hes risk averse and will check down a lot. This actually has been a thing on Alabama tape as well, I distinctly remember watching his tape and a lot of third downs hed just check down short of sticks without looking at more than one read.... and he had myriad of playmakers at Alabama so a lot of those went for first downs.

Mac makes far less bad decisions than Purdy in this offense, I dont think its a far-fetched thing to say, and the tape will show it too. It doesnt have to do anything with their salary or anything else. It just is. They are different QBs with different strengths and weaknesses. The offense is far more vertical and dynamic with Purdy, but it also is more turnover prone. Theyre just different QBs at what they do. Harbaugh would probably take Mac over Brock, and someone like Martz would pick Purdy over Mac. I take Brock over Mac easily just off mobility and ability to hit any route. But turnovers and reckless throws are a real problem.

As far as "nitpicking", personally I think its baloney. We all watch football games and when bad plays get made its fine to criticize them if you think they are bad. Doesnt matter what the final score is. The whole "we won so you cant criticize football plays" thing is just dumb. It just develops this toxic positivity mindset where you cant talk football.
Careful now… you don't want to be objective or make good points here. You may provoke the Purdy fanatics, they don't like anyone to criticize his performance regardless of what he does on the field. They like to reframe the narrative and somehow ill advised throws become awesome attempts and interceptions are bad luck,, and hitting a wide open receiver with no defenders in sight is labeled as threading the needle. Keep your concerns to yourself and turn a blind eye to any flaws.

The reality is this year jones and Purdy are playing at the same level with jones besting Purdy when it comes to protecting the ball. That is a problem and an even bigger one when you factor in salary. Purdy should be playing at a much higher level. Let's hope he does and pray we don't see further decline.

Lol if directed at me, so untrue. I am a Purdy homer fs lol but never have said stuff like that haha. Who has ever said Purdy was threading the needle when say, for example, Cards let CMC get wide the hell open near the goal line? Lol. That is silly. I have commented when Purdy fouls up and he does sometimes, all great qbs do now and then. But he is exceptional and was very happy with the comeback game I expect at least a 30 burger next game, 30 Purdy
[ Edited by Montana on Nov 19, 2025 at 10:41 AM ]
I don't know why people think Mac is much better at protecting the ball. He threw several horrific passes against Tampa, he threw a pick with the game on the line @ Houston, and he threw a horrific pick with the game on the line against AZ the first time.
Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your opinion but I'll use your own words...I think that's baloney.

We don't have to read all the opposing team blogs to hear the discussions in the media and Brock has always been downplayed long before his contract.

Majority of the talking heads declined to give him credit because of the weapons around him. Some acted like the guy had no holes to deal with at all despite our OL being pretty poor in pass protection during that 2023 season.

You want to know why Mac has less "bad decisions"? Because he rarely pushed the ball down the field. For all of you guys sitting here and pretending that Purdy should just check down everything would be the first ones to bash him for not winning games because he's playing too safe. Funny you mention Alex Smith with Harbaugh considering that was his biggest issue here with us. How many times did we complain about him throwing short of the sticks? How many 3 and outs did we have in that Giants NFCCG in 2011?

Wanting to neuter your QB from making big plays because you're afraid of turnovers is loser talk IMO. Yes nobody wants turnovers but do we not understand what our defense is now? This isn't 2011 defense out there. You can't simply punt and have the defense make the stop. We need Brock to go for the big plays but he has to be mindful whether the risk and reward are there.

And the one questionable play from that last game was on 3rd down, 49ers up by 9(should've been 11) I am perfectly fine with him taking that shot. You should be too. Playing safe with this defense is going to lose you more games. What are we afraid of? Ask majority of NFL QBs and they will tell you - QBs shouldn't be afraid of taking shots. Trust your guys unless they give you reasons not to.

As for nitpicking not being a thing...you literally have guys complaining about a 3rd and 15 conversion being a hospital ball and talking about it like it was a bad play. Save it man. That's nitpicking to the nth degree.

This. Also "game manager", whatever that really means lol.

Definitely loser talk imo, sorry guys, nobody is gunna neuter BCB and we definitely need a BCB with our D the way it is now. But I am even more hopeful about that than I was. Rooks/young players have made some great plays out there. Like in the last game, Moose with that int. Stout with that strip at the goal line. They are going to keep growing and learning, which is a positive, after the devasting losses of Fred and Bosa. Which still seems unimaginable that we lost both in a short time frame.
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Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your opinion but I'll use your own words...I think that's baloney.

We don't have to read all the opposing team blogs to hear the discussions in the media and Brock has always been downplayed long before his contract.

Majority of the talking heads declined to give him credit because of the weapons around him. Some acted like the guy had no holes to deal with at all despite our OL being pretty poor in pass protection during that 2023 season.

You want to know why Mac has less "bad decisions"? Because he rarely pushed the ball down the field. For all of you guys sitting here and pretending that Purdy should just check down everything would be the first ones to bash him for not winning games because he's playing too safe. Funny you mention Alex Smith with Harbaugh considering that was his biggest issue here with us. How many times did we complain about him throwing short of the sticks? How many 3 and outs did we have in that Giants NFCCG in 2011?

Wanting to neuter your QB from making big plays because you're afraid of turnovers is loser talk IMO. Yes nobody wants turnovers but do we not understand what our defense is now? This isn't 2011 defense out there. You can't simply punt and have the defense make the stop. We need Brock to go for the big plays but he has to be mindful whether the risk and reward are there.

And the one questionable play from that last game was on 3rd down, 49ers up by 9(should've been 11) I am perfectly fine with him taking that shot. You should be too. Playing safe with this defense is going to lose you more games. What are we afraid of? Ask majority of NFL QBs and they will tell you - QBs shouldn't be afraid of taking shots. Trust your guys unless they give you reasons not to.

As for nitpicking not being a thing...you literally have guys complaining about a 3rd and 15 conversion being a hospital ball and talking about it like it was a bad play. Save it man. That's nitpicking to the nth degree.

Speaking of Baloney...

Air yards per attempt
Brock 4.8
Mac 4.5

Intended air yards per attempt
Brock 7.6
Mac 7.3

ADoT
Brock 7.77
Mac 7.64

And I thought you rewatch games.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your opinion but I'll use your own words...I think that's baloney.

We don't have to read all the opposing team blogs to hear the discussions in the media and Brock has always been downplayed long before his contract.

Majority of the talking heads declined to give him credit because of the weapons around him. Some acted like the guy had no holes to deal with at all despite our OL being pretty poor in pass protection during that 2023 season.

You want to know why Mac has less "bad decisions"? Because he rarely pushed the ball down the field. For all of you guys sitting here and pretending that Purdy should just check down everything would be the first ones to bash him for not winning games because he's playing too safe. Funny you mention Alex Smith with Harbaugh considering that was his biggest issue here with us. How many times did we complain about him throwing short of the sticks? How many 3 and outs did we have in that Giants NFCCG in 2011?

Wanting to neuter your QB from making big plays because you're afraid of turnovers is loser talk IMO. Yes nobody wants turnovers but do we not understand what our defense is now? This isn't 2011 defense out there. You can't simply punt and have the defense make the stop. We need Brock to go for the big plays but he has to be mindful whether the risk and reward are there.

And the one questionable play from that last game was on 3rd down, 49ers up by 9(should've been 11) I am perfectly fine with him taking that shot. You should be too. Playing safe with this defense is going to lose you more games. What are we afraid of? Ask majority of NFL QBs and they will tell you - QBs shouldn't be afraid of taking shots. Trust your guys unless they give you reasons not to.

As for nitpicking not being a thing...you literally have guys complaining about a 3rd and 15 conversion being a hospital ball and talking about it like it was a bad play. Save it man. That's nitpicking to the nth degree.

I don't want to crush Brock for that 3rd down play because he played pretty well overall, and even a turnover in that situation wouldn't have been a disaster in that situation in this game. It's a bad decision though.

Your point about the need to aggressively push the ball downfield because our defense is bad doesn't really ring true for me. Long sustained drives… keeping our offense on the field and our defense off the field… helps as well. The most important thing is that we don't turn it over, and score touchdowns rather than field goals whether it's through explosive plays, or sustained drives. Explosive plays are great, but they don't need to be forced. Take them when the coverage dictates it.

Overall it was a good game to that end. Actually had some help from special teams and a couple defensive turnovers and had some short fields and we capitalized offensively. No real complaints.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm not saying Brock should be airing it out on the regular in YOLO mode. Like I said it's all about risk/reward analysis.

Throwing it up to a spot on 3rd down with a 9 point lead under 2 minutes to go into halftime IMO is an acceptable risk. If Brock makes a better throw or Jennings isn't held it may very well be a completion and maybe we get a TD out of it.

Now him doing that inside our 20 yard line in that situation is not a risk I want him to make. Or making that attempt on 1st or 2nd down.

And that's why I think the guys in here claiming he didn't learn from the prior games are not being honest with their assessments. Heck I'm seeing a play where Pearsall was open for a TD being now described as a play Mac Jones makes and the same people who would be killing Brock for making that throw if the underneath defender gets his hands on the ball are now claiming he made a mistake and Jones would've thrown the TD.

Simply put there are very few ways for Purdy to win for some of these guys. The "easy" plays are Kyle based or any QB can make them. The bad plays are ones only Brock makes apparently.

Jonnydel does a great job pointing out how some of the so called "easy" things are not and sometimes I feel like with QBs like Brock who plays more of the cerebral game they simply get underappreciated because they're not doing the crazy scramble big arm dart down the field stuff.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I don't know why people think Mac is much better at protecting the ball. He threw several horrific passes against Tampa, he threw a pick with the game on the line @ Houston, and he threw a horrific pick with the game on the line against AZ the first time.

Ppl dnt mention it cause, he didn't get a fat paycheck, also Mac is a 1st rounder with more stylish threads than a Cabela's wardrobe. lol. I beg to differ with those loafers though lol /j

I would say your breakdown of both qbs sums it up. I would say that Mac is a proven play maker though, to a degree. But Brock definitely is more fluid/scrambly out there. Mac played his ass off out there though, especially, having basically one leg lol. And we defo saw improvements with his play as the leg got more healed up. Love Mac, love Purdy, we have it pretty good offensively right now.
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by genus49:
You're entitled to your opinion but I'll use your own words...I think that's baloney.

We don't have to read all the opposing team blogs to hear the discussions in the media and Brock has always been downplayed long before his contract.

Majority of the talking heads declined to give him credit because of the weapons around him. Some acted like the guy had no holes to deal with at all despite our OL being pretty poor in pass protection during that 2023 season.

You want to know why Mac has less "bad decisions"? Because he rarely pushed the ball down the field. For all of you guys sitting here and pretending that Purdy should just check down everything would be the first ones to bash him for not winning games because he's playing too safe. Funny you mention Alex Smith with Harbaugh considering that was his biggest issue here with us. How many times did we complain about him throwing short of the sticks? How many 3 and outs did we have in that Giants NFCCG in 2011?

Wanting to neuter your QB from making big plays because you're afraid of turnovers is loser talk IMO. Yes nobody wants turnovers but do we not understand what our defense is now? This isn't 2011 defense out there. You can't simply punt and have the defense make the stop. We need Brock to go for the big plays but he has to be mindful whether the risk and reward are there.

And the one questionable play from that last game was on 3rd down, 49ers up by 9(should've been 11) I am perfectly fine with him taking that shot. You should be too. Playing safe with this defense is going to lose you more games. What are we afraid of? Ask majority of NFL QBs and they will tell you - QBs shouldn't be afraid of taking shots. Trust your guys unless they give you reasons not to.

As for nitpicking not being a thing...you literally have guys complaining about a 3rd and 15 conversion being a hospital ball and talking about it like it was a bad play. Save it man. That's nitpicking to the nth degree.

Speaking of Baloney...

Air yards per attempt
Brock 4.8
Mac 4.5

Intended air yards per attempt
Brock 7.6
Mac 7.3

ADoT
Brock 7.77
Mac 7.64

And I thought you rewatch games.

You have yet to show me anything from the game. You literally said you don't rewatch them. No offense man but your opinions are based on initial watch where it's all about adrenaline based reactions and you don't even get a clear vision of what's happening on the play.

Posting stats(note how you left out the Complete Air Yards per pass completion one where Purdy is at 6.7 and Mac is at 5.9)

This doesn't take into account the last game but it shows the clear difference between the two QBs. So yes...I watch and rewatch the games.
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Originally posted by genus49:
You have yet to show me anything from the game. You literally said you don't rewatch them. No offense man but your opinions are based on initial watch where it's all about adrenaline based reactions and you don't even get a clear vision of what's happening on the play.

Posting stats(note how you left out the Complete Air Yards per pass completion one where Purdy is at 6.7 and Mac is at 5.9)

This doesn't take into account the last game but it shows the clear difference between the two QBs. So yes...I watch and rewatch the games.


Originally posted by genus49:
You have yet to show me anything from the game. You literally said you don't rewatch them. No offense man but your opinions are based on initial watch where it's all about adrenaline based reactions and you don't even get a clear vision of what's happening on the play.

Posting stats(note how you left out the Complete Air Yards per pass completion one where Purdy is at 6.7 and Mac is at 5.9)

This doesn't take into account the last game but it shows the clear difference between the two QBs. So yes...I watch and rewatch the games.

PM me your NFL+ credentials and I'll gladly rewatch some games with you.

As for leaving out the stat you mentioned.... I posted the stats that go by attempts. Isn't that what you were talking about? So now you want to change it to completions because it makes your argument look better.

Giving the numbers I just posted and the one you posted. I'd love to see the up to date numbers
Originally posted by krizay:
PM me your NFL+ credentials and I'll gladly rewatch some games with you.

As for leaving out the stat you mentioned.... I posted the stats that go by attempts. Isn't that what you were talking about? So now you want to change it to completions because it makes your argument look better.

Giving the numbers I just posted and the one you posted. I'd love to see the up to date numbers

I'm not going to share my login info but there are plenty of people doing breakdowns that can give you another look.

And what we're talking about is about the ability to hit on bigger plays at a higher rate. I'll look for the updated chart and post it for you...ironically if they're closer together that would go against your opinion that Brock hasn't learned from watching Mac play.

But the per attempt numbers aren't as critical. You can launch the ball down the field and fluff up your Air Yard per attempt numbers but if you're not completing them at a consistent level then does it really matter?

You can check out the NextGen passing charts and you'll see that Mac doesn't push the ball down the field as much overall. it's really nothing ground breaking.
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Originally posted by genus49:
I'm not going to share my login info but there are plenty of people doing breakdowns that can give you another look.

And what we're talking about is about the ability to hit on bigger plays at a higher rate. I'll look for the updated chart and post it for you...ironically if they're closer together that would go against your opinion that Brock hasn't learned from watching Mac play.

But the per attempt numbers aren't as critical. You can launch the ball down the field and fluff up your Air Yard per attempt numbers but if you're not completing them at a consistent level then does it really matter?

You can check out the NextGen passing charts and you'll see that Mac doesn't push the ball down the field as much overall. it's really nothing ground breaking.

Lol. Was being facetious on the 1st part.

No you have been talking about pushing the ball downfield. Now you're changing your argument.

Pushing the ball downfield never mattered as much as you wanted it to regardless of consistency. Especially in this offense. Plenty of evidence proving that.

As for

ironically if they're closer together that would go against your opinion that Brock hasn't learned from watching Mac play

My argument from the very beginning has been the offense playing in rythm. That is what I want to see. That is what Mac Brings to the table.

Brock's pocket time is 2.7 seconds which would lead the NFL if he qualified.

I dont give two s**ts about distance. I want rythm. I only posted those numbers because people act as if Mac only checks down and Brock always goes deep. Their numbers are similar.
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Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Based on the way Love and Darnold have been playing lately, I would argue Brock should be at #8.
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