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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Montana:
This.

Trying to remember a qb as criticized and under a microscope as BP is. Brady comes to mind. Steve also. When Mac has made any mistakes, nobody really talks about it lol. Why? People are chomping at the bit to find fault with Purdy. Probably cause he got paid, 7th rounder idk. I don't get it, we have some of the most entitled, nitpicking fans in the league lol. A 40 burger win and ppl are complaining lol

I dont really think its exclusive to Purdy. Most Niner fans dont really read other teams sites but most QBs are scrutinized just as much.

I will say tho, Mac is just not a risk taker, so he hasnt made many mistakes and he definitely has very few WTF throws, probably the least amount of them for a Niners QB I've seen since...I dont know, Alex Smith under Harbaugh ? That doesnt mean hes the best QB or anything, simply means hes risk averse and will check down a lot. This actually has been a thing on Alabama tape as well, I distinctly remember watching his tape and a lot of third downs hed just check down short of sticks without looking at more than one read.... and he had myriad of playmakers at Alabama so a lot of those went for first downs.

Mac makes far less bad decisions than Purdy in this offense, I dont think its a far-fetched thing to say, and the tape will show it too. It doesnt have to do anything with their salary or anything else. It just is. They are different QBs with different strengths and weaknesses. The offense is far more vertical and dynamic with Purdy, but it also is more turnover prone. Theyre just different QBs at what they do. Harbaugh would probably take Mac over Brock, and someone like Martz would pick Purdy over Mac. I take Brock over Mac easily just off mobility and ability to hit any route. But turnovers and reckless throws are a real problem.

As far as "nitpicking", personally I think its baloney. We all watch football games and when bad plays get made its fine to criticize them if you think they are bad. Doesnt matter what the final score is. The whole "we won so you cant criticize football plays" thing is just dumb. It just develops this toxic positivity mindset where you cant talk football.
Careful now… you don't want to be objective or make good points here. You may provoke the Purdy fanatics, they don't like anyone to criticize his performance regardless of what he does on the field. They like to reframe the narrative and somehow ill advised throws become awesome attempts and interceptions are bad luck,, and hitting a wide open receiver with no defenders in sight is labeled as threading the needle. Keep your concerns to yourself and turn a blind eye to any flaws.

The reality is this year jones and Purdy are playing at the same level with jones besting Purdy when it comes to protecting the ball. That is a problem and an even bigger one when you factor in salary. Purdy should be playing at a much higher level. Let's hope he does and pray we don't see further decline.
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Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Montana:
This.

Trying to remember a qb as criticized and under a microscope as BP is. Brady comes to mind. Steve also. When Mac has made any mistakes, nobody really talks about it lol. Why? People are chomping at the bit to find fault with Purdy. Probably cause he got paid, 7th rounder idk. I don't get it, we have some of the most entitled, nitpicking fans in the league lol. A 40 burger win and ppl are complaining lol

I dont really think its exclusive to Purdy. Most Niner fans dont really read other teams sites but most QBs are scrutinized just as much.

I will say tho, Mac is just not a risk taker, so he hasnt made many mistakes and he definitely has very few WTF throws, probably the least amount of them for a Niners QB I've seen since...I dont know, Alex Smith under Harbaugh ? That doesnt mean hes the best QB or anything, simply means hes risk averse and will check down a lot. This actually has been a thing on Alabama tape as well, I distinctly remember watching his tape and a lot of third downs hed just check down short of sticks without looking at more than one read.... and he had myriad of playmakers at Alabama so a lot of those went for first downs.

Mac makes far less bad decisions than Purdy in this offense, I dont think its a far-fetched thing to say, and the tape will show it too. It doesnt have to do anything with their salary or anything else. It just is. They are different QBs with different strengths and weaknesses. The offense is far more vertical and dynamic with Purdy, but it also is more turnover prone. Theyre just different QBs at what they do. Harbaugh would probably take Mac over Brock, and someone like Martz would pick Purdy over Mac. I take Brock over Mac easily just off mobility and ability to hit any route. But turnovers and reckless throws are a real problem.

As far as "nitpicking", personally I think its baloney. We all watch football games and when bad plays get made its fine to criticize them if you think they are bad. Doesnt matter what the final score is. The whole "we won so you cant criticize football plays" thing is just dumb. It just develops this toxic positivity mindset where you cant talk football.
Careful now… you don't want to be objective or make good points here. You may provoke the Purdy fanatics, they don't like anyone to criticize his performance regardless of what he does on the field. They like to reframe the narrative and somehow ill advised throws become awesome attempts and interceptions are bad luck,, and hitting a wide open receiver with no defenders in sight is labeled as threading the needle. Keep your concerns to yourself and turn a blind eye to any flaws.

The reality is this year jones and Purdy are playing at the same level with jones besting Purdy when it comes to protecting the ball. That is a problem and an even bigger one when you factor in salary. Purdy should be playing at a much higher level. Let's hope he does and pray we don't see further decline.

When people are hung up on a couple throws in a blowout win it just gets tiring. People are dying to see him fail. I don't understand the worries or concerns when we have the great Mac Jones waiting to takeover when Brock shows how badly he truly sucks
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^^^I think some people are thinking big picture. He can get away with those bad throws against the cardinals, but not good teams and especially playoff teams. It's ok to be critical in a blowout. Give him his flowers but also point out some mistakes to hopefully make him better. We'll see if he has a clean, no interception game against the panthers. They're not a world beater but certainly better than Arizona.
Every QB has one or two WTF throws during a game......it's that a lot of the media must generate a narrative in one direction or another. Now certainly, in Purdy's case, he 'may' receive more criticism because his arm is average at best. Josh Allen and Justin Herbert can get away with stuff that if Purdy even dreamed of such throws, he should wake up and apologize to Kyle....but that's part of what separates those two guys from Purdy, as they are simply better QB's.

I didn't watch the game against the Cardinals, but if these so-called 'hospital balls' or WTF throws were shown in JD's breakdowns, then I'm not too worried. His injury history and what it might project for future play may be an even bigger concern, however.
Originally posted by Silky:
^^^I think some people are thinking big picture. He can get away with those bad throws against the cardinals, but not good teams and especially playoff teams. It's ok to be critical in a blowout. Give him his flowers but also point out some mistakes to hopefully make him better. We'll see if he has a clean, no interception game against the panthers. They're not a world beater but certainly better than Arizona.

If it's the first thing you mention (and feel the need to argue over) after a complete blowout in his first game back, then it's more than just thinking big picture imo. Like do we really need to go around reminding everybody that our qb isn't perfect after a game like that?
The fact that Mac is the backup and not the primary starter may have something to do with people not criticizing him as harshly. Expectations aren't as high for a low paid backup compared to a high paid starter.
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Montana:
This.

Trying to remember a qb as criticized and under a microscope as BP is. Brady comes to mind. Steve also. When Mac has made any mistakes, nobody really talks about it lol. Why? People are chomping at the bit to find fault with Purdy. Probably cause he got paid, 7th rounder idk. I don't get it, we have some of the most entitled, nitpicking fans in the league lol. A 40 burger win and ppl are complaining lol

I dont really think its exclusive to Purdy. Most Niner fans dont really read other teams sites but most QBs are scrutinized just as much.

I will say tho, Mac is just not a risk taker, so he hasnt made many mistakes and he definitely has very few WTF throws, probably the least amount of them for a Niners QB I've seen since...I dont know, Alex Smith under Harbaugh ? That doesnt mean hes the best QB or anything, simply means hes risk averse and will check down a lot. This actually has been a thing on Alabama tape as well, I distinctly remember watching his tape and a lot of third downs hed just check down short of sticks without looking at more than one read.... and he had myriad of playmakers at Alabama so a lot of those went for first downs.

Mac makes far less bad decisions than Purdy in this offense, I dont think its a far-fetched thing to say, and the tape will show it too. It doesnt have to do anything with their salary or anything else. It just is. They are different QBs with different strengths and weaknesses. The offense is far more vertical and dynamic with Purdy, but it also is more turnover prone. Theyre just different QBs at what they do. Harbaugh would probably take Mac over Brock, and someone like Martz would pick Purdy over Mac. I take Brock over Mac easily just off mobility and ability to hit any route. But turnovers and reckless throws are a real problem.

As far as "nitpicking", personally I think its baloney. We all watch football games and when bad plays get made its fine to criticize them if you think they are bad. Doesnt matter what the final score is. The whole "we won so you cant criticize football plays" thing is just dumb. It just develops this toxic positivity mindset where you cant talk football.

You're entitled to your opinion but I'll use your own words...I think that's baloney.

We don't have to read all the opposing team blogs to hear the discussions in the media and Brock has always been downplayed long before his contract.

Majority of the talking heads declined to give him credit because of the weapons around him. Some acted like the guy had no holes to deal with at all despite our OL being pretty poor in pass protection during that 2023 season.

You want to know why Mac has less "bad decisions"? Because he rarely pushed the ball down the field. For all of you guys sitting here and pretending that Purdy should just check down everything would be the first ones to bash him for not winning games because he's playing too safe. Funny you mention Alex Smith with Harbaugh considering that was his biggest issue here with us. How many times did we complain about him throwing short of the sticks? How many 3 and outs did we have in that Giants NFCCG in 2011?

Wanting to neuter your QB from making big plays because you're afraid of turnovers is loser talk IMO. Yes nobody wants turnovers but do we not understand what our defense is now? This isn't 2011 defense out there. You can't simply punt and have the defense make the stop. We need Brock to go for the big plays but he has to be mindful whether the risk and reward are there.

And the one questionable play from that last game was on 3rd down, 49ers up by 9(should've been 11) I am perfectly fine with him taking that shot. You should be too. Playing safe with this defense is going to lose you more games. What are we afraid of? Ask majority of NFL QBs and they will tell you - QBs shouldn't be afraid of taking shots. Trust your guys unless they give you reasons not to.

As for nitpicking not being a thing...you literally have guys complaining about a 3rd and 15 conversion being a hospital ball and talking about it like it was a bad play. Save it man. That's nitpicking to the nth degree.
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Careful now… you don't want to be objective or make good points here. You may provoke the Purdy fanatics, they don't like anyone to criticize his performance regardless of what he does on the field. They like to reframe the narrative and somehow ill advised throws become awesome attempts and interceptions are bad luck,, and hitting a wide open receiver with no defenders in sight is labeled as threading the needle. Keep your concerns to yourself and turn a blind eye to any flaws.

The reality is this year jones and Purdy are playing at the same level with jones besting Purdy when it comes to protecting the ball. That is a problem and an even bigger one when you factor in salary. Purdy should be playing at a much higher level. Let's hope he does and pray we don't see further decline.
I will warn you about this type of posting and it sounds similar to a former poster...

Now since you want to be objective and want to criticize based on what happened on the field, I will give you the question I asked you about earlier...seems like you ignored it.

So go ahead since you made your claims. Provide when on the field the following things happened.

Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by jed_X:
Can we take off the layered throw between the safeties and linebackers in the middle off the playbook? Seems like whenever brock attempts to throw there it's getting intercepted half the time. It used to be a strength of his in 2023 now it's a weakness.

No...

genus49 must love interceptions and almost interceptions. Or is it the hospital balls up high across the middle that get you going?

What gets me going are when people can back up their wild claims with what actually happened.

Quick show me an interception Brock threw.

Show me the hospital balls up high across the middle he threw.

And no i don't give a damn about almost interceptions.

Look forward to your answer and specific plays you're talking about. You don't need to even give me the clips. Just tell me what time in the game they happened and I'll dig them up.

I eagerly await your objective take based on what happened on the field...
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The fact that Mac is the backup and not the primary starter may have something to do with people not criticizing him as harshly. Expectations aren't as high for a low paid backup compared to a high paid starter.

And that's dumb IMO. If you're going to evaluate the play on the field and claim you're being objective then salary shouldn't matter.

Also just so we're clear Mac has a 2.5 mil cap hit this year. Purdy is at 9.5 mil. It's not exactly a gigantic difference in salary this season.

This throw was a great throw by Purdy, while looking off the safety.


This was also a great play by Purdy, IMO my favorite. He shows poise in the pocket letting Kittle get open before throwing for an touchdown.

We need more of these the rest of the season.


This is what I'd like him to cut out doing more. Even though it wasn't picked just giving the opponent opportunities to make a game changing play isn't good. The pocket was clean too, not sure why he started to run.

Anywho like I said a few days ago, good game for Purdy to get his legs and foot under him in real game situations. Hopefully more of the top two plays going forward and less of the 3rd.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The fact that Mac is the backup and not the primary starter may have something to do with people not criticizing him as harshly. Expectations aren't as high for a low paid backup compared to a high paid starter.

And that's dumb IMO. If you're going to evaluate the play on the field and claim you're being objective then salary shouldn't matter.

Also just so we're clear Mac has a 2.5 mil cap hit this year. Purdy is at 9.5 mil. It's not exactly a gigantic difference in salary this season.

I agree that salary shouldn't matter but when you read the posts on this forum salaries are often brought up. Even players and agents often use salary comparisons when negotiating. No matter what Brock i earning this year compared to Mac one is viewed as a bckup and the other as the starter. Fans do and should expect more from the starter.
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The fact that Mac is the backup and not the primary starter may have something to do with people not criticizing him as harshly. Expectations aren't as high for a low paid backup compared to a high paid starter.

And that's dumb IMO. If you're going to evaluate the play on the field and claim you're being objective then salary shouldn't matter.

Also just so we're clear Mac has a 2.5 mil cap hit this year. Purdy is at 9.5 mil. It's not exactly a gigantic difference in salary this season.

I agree that salary shouldn't matter but when you read the posts on this forum salaries are often brought up. Even players and agents often use salary comparisons when negotiating. No matter what Brock i earning this year compared to Mac one is viewed as a bckup and the other as the starter. Fans do and should expect more from the starter.

Didn't stop people from ripping Brock apart last year tho...so when does he get a fair evaluation?
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

This throw was a great throw by Purdy, while looking off the safety.


This was also a great play by Purdy, IMO my favorite. He shows poise in the pocket letting Kittle get open before throwing for an touchdown.

We need more of these the rest of the season.


This is what I'd like him to cut out doing more. Even though it wasn't picked just giving the opponent opportunities to make a game changing play isn't good. The pocket was clean too, not sure why he started to run.

Anywho like I said a few days ago, good game for Purdy to get his legs and foot under him in real game situations. Hopefully more of the top two plays going forward and less of the 3rd.

Cuz this was the coverage right before he leaves the pocket.

Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by NoFunLeague:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by Montana:
This.

Trying to remember a qb as criticized and under a microscope as BP is. Brady comes to mind. Steve also. When Mac has made any mistakes, nobody really talks about it lol. Why? People are chomping at the bit to find fault with Purdy. Probably cause he got paid, 7th rounder idk. I don't get it, we have some of the most entitled, nitpicking fans in the league lol. A 40 burger win and ppl are complaining lol

I dont really think its exclusive to Purdy. Most Niner fans dont really read other teams sites but most QBs are scrutinized just as much.

I will say tho, Mac is just not a risk taker, so he hasnt made many mistakes and he definitely has very few WTF throws, probably the least amount of them for a Niners QB I've seen since...I dont know, Alex Smith under Harbaugh ? That doesnt mean hes the best QB or anything, simply means hes risk averse and will check down a lot. This actually has been a thing on Alabama tape as well, I distinctly remember watching his tape and a lot of third downs hed just check down short of sticks without looking at more than one read.... and he had myriad of playmakers at Alabama so a lot of those went for first downs.

Mac makes far less bad decisions than Purdy in this offense, I dont think its a far-fetched thing to say, and the tape will show it too. It doesnt have to do anything with their salary or anything else. It just is. They are different QBs with different strengths and weaknesses. The offense is far more vertical and dynamic with Purdy, but it also is more turnover prone. Theyre just different QBs at what they do. Harbaugh would probably take Mac over Brock, and someone like Martz would pick Purdy over Mac. I take Brock over Mac easily just off mobility and ability to hit any route. But turnovers and reckless throws are a real problem.

As far as "nitpicking", personally I think its baloney. We all watch football games and when bad plays get made its fine to criticize them if you think they are bad. Doesnt matter what the final score is. The whole "we won so you cant criticize football plays" thing is just dumb. It just develops this toxic positivity mindset where you cant talk football.
Careful now… you don't want to be objective or make good points here. You may provoke the Purdy fanatics, they don't like anyone to criticize his performance regardless of what he does on the field. They like to reframe the narrative and somehow ill advised throws become awesome attempts and interceptions are bad luck,, and hitting a wide open receiver with no defenders in sight is labeled as threading the needle. Keep your concerns to yourself and turn a blind eye to any flaws.

The reality is this year jones and Purdy are playing at the same level with jones besting Purdy when it comes to protecting the ball. That is a problem and an even bigger one when you factor in salary. Purdy should be playing at a much higher level. Let's hope he does and pray we don't see further decline.

When people are hung up on a couple throws in a blowout win it just gets tiring. People are dying to see him fail. I don't understand the worries or concerns when we have the great Mac Jones waiting to takeover when Brock shows how badly he truly sucks

There is zero doubt in my mind that the poster you are replying to is hoping and rooting for Purdy to fail. Its painfully obvious.
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