QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by mitpdub:
Would have been a 4th lead if Burford and McKivitz decided to block Jones on the most critical play.

That's already included as we still took the lead on that possession.

Purdy, QB1. Jones, QB2. The best QB1 & QB2 combo in the NFL.

Despite all the key injuries, thankful to have such talent at the most important position in football.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
There was nothing unreasonable about what I said to you. You just got offended when I said it was a casual take.

You mention that our running game was much better last year, but fail to mention how much not having a pass catching running back hurt the QB. Mccaffrey is averaging SEVENTY receiving yards per game this year. That is TEN TIMES more than Mason averaged, and is probably one of the main reasons Mason is no longer here. Mccaffrey's receiving out of the backfield is largely an extension of the running game.

Also, you both failed to acknowledge that we were missing Trent Williams for a large portion of last season too. That also affects the QB, and yet he still played better than Mac has this year.

I directly acknowledged CMC's absence when I compared their situation. I also pointed out the fact that our WR and TE situation was stronger than it has been for Mac's starts. Mac's been out there with a gutted WR group and no run game. He's had Kittle for 4 starts, Pearsall for two, Jennings has missed time and played injured… and the team can't run the ball. It's all there in the post.

As far as Trent he missed 1/3 of Brock's starts. A big loss obviously, but it's hard to quantify the actual effect on the offense and he was there for the bulk of his games. We still ran the ball well… Brock still had the one of the longest times in the league from snap to release (in part due to his mobility).

Saying "obviously we missed CMC for the bulk of the year and that's a huge loss" and then mentioning how much our running game was better in his absence last year compared to this year is not what I am talking about. You didnt acknowledge how much he helps in the passing game at all.

Originally posted by mitpdub:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Wait, all the sudden Purdy is a deep ball specialist?

Why the heck do yall think we lost the Super Bowl? Why have good defenses played us a certain way since? Chiefs were daring Brock to throw it deep.. knowning he wouldn't, or there would be no chemistry with said receivers because we never/rarely hit teams over the top. The two passes that we attempted were pathetic.

We lost the Superbowl because Purdy gave our team THREE leads in the 4th quarter and overtime and the defense was unable to hold them.

Hope that clears it up for you.

Would have been a 4th lead if Burford and McKivitz decided to block Jones on the most critical play.

No, it just would have been a bigger lead. It still resulted in a lead.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Saying "obviously we missed CMC for the bulk of the year and that's a huge loss" and then mentioning how much our running game was better in his absence last year compared to this year is not what I am talking about. You didnt acknowledge how much he helps in the passing game at all.

I think it goes without saying, and I pointed out that we have been weaker this season in the WR and TE department for the bulk of Mac's starts. WRs and TE's help out in the pass game as well. Each QB had to deal with injuries to the skill players around them. Again, if you want to come to the conclusion that Mac's situation has been better, I'd disagree but I also think it's inarguably close.

Our offense is missing the run game right now. We get back to running the ball like we have throughout the bulk of Kyle's tenure, that's going to be a significant improvement for our offense. I don't expect a big difference simply replacing Jones with Purdy, and there isn't much of team-statistical case between last year and this year to suggest otherwise. Our passing offense has been good this season given the circumstances.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Purdy, QB1. Jones, QB2. The best QB1 & QB2 combo in the NFL.

Despite all the key injuries, thankful to have such talent at the most important position in football.

This is what really matters.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Purdy, QB1. Jones, QB2. The best QB1 & QB2 combo in the NFL.

Despite all the key injuries, thankful to have such talent at the most important position in football.

This is what really matters.

Gives the team at least a fighting chance each game despite all the injuries.

Now, just need some more guys to return from injury, Pearsall, etc., starting this week vs. the Cards.

Bosa and Warner, yes, they're not replaceable. But just have to keep moving forward with what you have and give it your best shot.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Again, no one is saying Mac is bad. He's a good game manager.

Purdy is a playmaker that simply offers more that defenses have to defend against.

The chart a few weeks back showing how often they throw to first reads was nice evidence. Purdy will take the shot to whoever is open deepest first, regardless of whether they're the first read.

Tbh I think both can do better at not locking in to the extremes. Purdy wants big plays. Mac just wants to get the ball out. Somewhere in the middle is the optimal area.

I never thought you were saying Mac is bad fyi. I'm arguing that I don't think there's a lot of evidence to expect that we are going to be making a substantial jump in offensive production when he's reinserted into the lineup… and again, that's if he's healthy. We can debate who had the better situation between 2024 and 2025, but it was at least similar from an injury perspective. 2023 doesn't factor for me considering the QB was surrounded by all pros at the skill positions and that isn't going to be the case this season, regardless of who the QB is.

Only way to find out is let Purdy return and the results speak for themselves.

Mac has played a lot of low level teams so Purdy getting some games against low teams should even things out by the time we get past the Colts game, if he's able to stay healthy enough to start beyond then

There are too many moving parts for me to specifically state one way or another - injuries, opponents/schedule, etc. - regarding whose play is/was better between Mac this year and Purdy last year. Given all the circumstances, I don't think there is that much of a difference between the two. It's also irrelevant to me from one point.

If Purdy is healthy and ready to go, he NEEDS to play.

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
There are too many moving parts for me to specifically state one way or another - injuries, opponents/schedule, etc. - regarding whose play is/was better between Mac this year and Purdy last year. Given all the circumstances, I don't think there is that much of a difference between the two. It's also irrelevant to me from one point.

If Purdy is healthy and ready to go, he NEEDS to play.

Which has been my point from the jump. We have seen Purdy have 1.5 seasons of elite football play, and last year was a down year for him. But that down year is pretty much on par with what Mac is doing and being celebrated for.

I think Mac has done a great job as our backup. Better than anyone could have expected. But there is still a lot to be desired from Mac's play that we saw Purdy do regularly.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Only way to find out is let Purdy return and the results speak for themselves.

Mac has played a lot of low level teams so Purdy getting some games against low teams should even things out by the time we get past the Colts game, if he's able to stay healthy enough to start beyond then

Maybe overall, but we've faced a pretty steady diet of good-great defensive teams this season, including Purdy's two starts. It's helpful that a bulk of the teams we've played do not have good offenses and that's helped to keep games close.

I agree Purdy and the offense have a good runway to get started here, though I still think the upcoming games mostly feature teams with especially bad offenses. My main concern would be Purdy's health allowing him to play to his level. Have to trust in the coaching staff there and they've been at least saying the right things.

Originally posted by Tigerlaw:

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Wait, all the sudden Purdy is a deep ball specialist?

Why the heck do yall think we lost the Super Bowl? Why have good defenses played us a certain way since? Chiefs were daring Brock to throw it deep.. knowning he wouldn't, or there would be no chemistry with said receivers because we never/rarely hit teams over the top. The two passes that we attempted were pathetic.

We got shut down v KC bc our WRs sucked at getting separation

Deebo got hard countered

KS pivoted to Pearsall and Aiyuk as his new WR core but injuries have f**ked those plans

Yeah it was obvious what they were doing, putting their best cover corner on Deebo, who's not a route runner...and coverage on the other side. I mean if you see that, you would think Kyle would find a way to get Deebo open by WR alignment or movement or whatever...instead of, you know, expecting him to get open by running a route against the best cornerback that year lol.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
We lost the Superbowl because Purdy gave our team THREE leads in the 4th quarter and overtime and the defense was unable to hold them.

Hope that clears it up for you.

nothing but FGs in that 4th Qtr.

before that our defense held the f**king Chiefs and Pat Mahomes to 3 pts in the first half.. I mean dang, what more would you want them to do. And after a while they were bound to make half time adjustments, and our defense get tired because we couldn't take advantage on offense... but still holding the f**king Chiefs in the Super Bowl to 13 points in three QTRs is HUGE! yet we didn't score ANY pts in the 3rd QTR.

the fact that folks wanted to make our defense the scape goat from that Super Bowl or Title Game, ONCE AGAIN, when it has been Kyle and the offense that have not helped put teams away. Kyle had weapons EVERYWHERE, yet can't find away to get a few 1st downs when needed... or TDs.

It's been pouring out all day in the Bay Area. Was he able to grip the ball today?

nice