QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

"Right now the 49ers offense is very condensed, which I think makes Mac Jones' numbers a little deceptive. He's played very, very well for what he is...The longest pass play was 22 yards. There's no real verticality to their pass game."

- @gregcosell on @WillardAndDibs.

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— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) November 13, 2025

Bingo. 100% the truth from Cossell.

I don't want to hear that guys aren't separating. There's been several times where Mac has either not seen or chosen to take the short pass. It's why Kyle isn't going to pick him over Brock. The chance for big plays is just so much less.

Yes Mac has taken a couple deep shots and they've been dropped. Not saying he never tries, but you can see it in the passing charts that he almost never tries. And then you see in the all22 it's not for lack of options.

He's just not very good at it. In early 2023 he only completed one deep pass over the first 4 weeks. At this point, he sticks with what he can do well -- short to mid range.

Bottom line is Mac limits the offense, and a healthy Purdy doesn't. Both in terms of mobility and stretching the field. People who want to pretend that this isn't the case are not being real. The only argument you could make is Brock can be more wild with the ball. And that's fair. The problem is, we need a playmaker badly right now who can put up a lot of points with our defense in shambles. We can't just punt and play D.

We've struggled in the red zone, but we're also a top 3 team in 3rd down conversion percentage and top 5 in success rate. We aren't punting a lot…. I think we've had ~ the 7th fewest punts in the league. These things help out a bad defense obviously.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
We've struggled in the red zone, but we're also a top 3 team in 3rd down conversion percentage and top 5 in success rate. We aren't punting a lot…. I think we've had ~ the 7th fewest punts in the league. These things help out a bad defense obviously.

We were a top team at 3rd down conversion percentage when Nick Mullens was our QB too. Just saying.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
We were a top team at 3rd down conversion percentage when Nick Mullens was our QB too. Just saying.

Maybe you missed the point. The other poster said we can't just punt and play defense. Clearly that isn't the case.

Show me the 3rd down conversion numbers for Mullens though, just out of curiosity.

Originally posted by DrEll:
Force Kyle's hand ? lol.

this is a coach that continues to play Brendel, still thinks handing off to Juice pays dividends, refuses to play his rookies that show potential, and runs his star players into the ground despite having serviceable backups.

Brock could come back and throw 5 INTs vs Az and Kyle will play him to the end and still have starting the week after in Carolina.

Kyle is hard headed. He don't give a s**t what others think and what the right thing to do is. Our best bet is that Brock himself isn't "ready" a Kyle is forced to continue to play Mac. If he was the coach of the Pats in 2000, he would've benched Brady for Bledsoe in an instant when he came back.

No because I saw him bench Trey Lance AFTER giving up three firsts to get him

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

"Right now the 49ers offense is very condensed, which I think makes Mac Jones' numbers a little deceptive. He's played very, very well for what he is...The longest pass play was 22 yards. There's no real verticality to their pass game."

- @gregcosell on @WillardAndDibs.

🎧… pic.twitter.com/2MorfgwpEg

— 95.7 The Game (@957thegame) November 13, 2025

Bingo. 100% the truth from Cossell.

I don't want to hear that guys aren't separating. There's been several times where Mac has either not seen or chosen to take the short pass. It's why Kyle isn't going to pick him over Brock. The chance for big plays is just so much less.

Yes Mac has taken a couple deep shots and they've been dropped. Not saying he never tries, but you can see it in the passing charts that he almost never tries. And then you see in the all22 it's not for lack of options.

He's just not very good at it. In early 2023 he only completed one deep pass over the first 4 weeks. At this point, he sticks with what he can do well -- short to mid range.

Bottom line is Mac limits the offense, and a healthy Purdy doesn't. Both in terms of mobility and stretching the field. People who want to pretend that this isn't the case are not being real. The only argument you could make is Brock can be more wild with the ball. And that's fair. The problem is, we need a playmaker badly right now who can put up a lot of points with our defense in shambles. We can't just punt and play D.

We've struggled in the red zone, but we're also a top 3 team in 3rd down conversion percentage and top 5 in success rate. We aren't punting a lot…. I think we've had ~ the 7th fewest punts in the league. These things help out a bad defense obviously.

True, we have moved the ball but we aren't putting up points and despite the conversions, our TOP isn't very good.

17th in Time of Possession
23rd in PPG at 22.

So I guess maybe I should say, we can't just rely on field goals. 49ers average 27.7 PPG when Brock starts. 21.6 PPG with Mac. An entire TD difference.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
True, we have moved the ball but we aren't putting up points and despite the conversions, our TOP isn't very good.

17th in Time of Possession
23rd in PPG at 22.

So I guess maybe I should say, we can't just rely on field goals. 49ers average 27.7 PPG when Brock starts. 21.6 PPG with Mac. An entire TD difference.

Just for reference, the 49ers are better in the red zone than they were last season. Across 2024, the 49ers with Purdy as a starter averaged 23.2 points per game. This season, with Mac as the starter, they're averaging 22.75. Pretty insignificant to this point at least.

Originally posted by 49ers9797:
I think Kyle didn't want Brady on the 49ers because Brady would get most of the credit if they won a SB. And Brady would check out of play calls he didn't like. Which would infuriate Shanahan.

I'm not so sure. He was willing to hire Bill Belichick as his defensive coordinator. Had they won with that arrangement that would have taken some credit away and I don't think he would've cared.

Originally posted by Monsterniner:
I came to say the same but you said it first

With Shanahan as the HC/OC we should never pay big money to a QB if the guy isn't a HOF-caliber player like Mahomes or Allen. If he is just good and nothing more we can get the same production from another guy for way less money like we are seeing now.

Paying a mid-tier QB like Purdy was a stupid mistake and paying him after his mediocre season in 2024 when he threw 7 picks in the 4th quarter and all of them in 1-score games was beyond stupid.

Jesus. So many people forget just how good Brock Purdy is.

Secondly, many people forget just how bad Bryan Hoyer, CJ Beathard, and Nick Mullens were.

Krueger who I got back and forth on said he thought the foot was still bothering him in practice.

He looked good in the short clips I saw.

Krueger was right about the Jax game though.

He shouldnt play if he isnt 100%.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

True, we have moved the ball but we aren't putting up points and despite the conversions, our TOP isn't very good.

17th in Time of Possession
23rd in PPG at 22.

So I guess maybe I should say, we can't just rely on field goals. 49ers average 27.7 PPG when Brock starts. 21.6 PPG with Mac. An entire TD difference.

Just for reference, the 49ers are better in the red zone than they were last season. Across 2024, the 49ers with Purdy as a starter averaged 23.2 points per game. This season, with Mac as the starter, they're averaging 22.75. Pretty insignificant to this point at least.

23.7 PPG in 2024 but splitting hairs on that. I just really do think it's significant when you consider last year it was the offensive stars decimated with injury, a still terrible defense, and Jake Moody missing a million field goals.

No Trent, no CMC, no BA, along with various other OL dings. But despite all that, the Purdy-led offense still ranked significantly higher and Brock himself was higher in EPA.

2024 offense finished 4th in the NFL. When Brock started, we averaged roughly 400 yds of offense per game without any stars except Kittle, vs 360 this year with Mac. We are 11th on total offense this year.

The overall argument isn't that Mac is bad or anything, it's just that Purdy is so much better than him, a lot more than many want to give him credit for.

Wait, all the sudden Purdy is a deep ball specialist?

Why the heck do yall think we lost the Super Bowl? Why have good defenses played us a certain way since? Chiefs were daring Brock to throw it deep.. knowning he wouldn't, or there would be no chemistry with said receivers because we never/rarely hit teams over the top. The two passes that we attempted were pathetic.

Originally posted by Afrikan:
Wait, all the sudden Purdy is a deep ball specialist?

Why the heck do yall think we lost the Super Bowl? Why have good defenses played us a certain way since? Chiefs were daring Brock to throw it deep.. knowning he wouldn't, or there would be no chemistry with said receivers because we never/rarely hit teams over the top. The two passes that we attempted were pathetic.

He has opened that element to our offense more than anyone else with this offense.

The stats support this.

Pathetic? Because they were incomplete.

The 49ers don't have any deep threat receivers that are active right now. Pearsall is probably their best and he was getting deep in the first 2 games before he got injured. The receivers they have now are more suited for the short and intermediate game. That's why Kyle is calling those plays. Plus it allows a less than mobile QB to get rid of the ball quicker instead of waiting for guys to get open downfield.

The fact is Mac is an accurate deep ball thrower. He showed that at Alabama when he had fast receivers. With his limited mobility that's even worse with his knee issues it makes no sense to try and throw deep very often. With Purdy still hurt they can't afford to have him get racked while trying to extend plays. We saw Kyle jump on him about that.

I read that they're gradually increasing Brock's workload in practice. If he's not a full go by now I hope they don't try to get him on the field this week. The Cards are missing a lot of key players and the 49ers should be able to beat them without Brock.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
The 49ers don't have any deep threat receivers that are active right now. Pearsall is probably their best and he was getting deep in the first 2 games before he got injured. The receivers they have now are more suited for the short and intermediate game. That's why Kyle is calling those plays. Plus it allows a less than mobile QB to get rid of the ball quicker instead of waiting for guys to get open downfield.

The fact is Mac is an accurate deep ball thrower. He showed that at Alabama when he had fast receivers. With his limited mobility that's even worse with his knee issues it makes no sense to try and throw deep very often. With Purdy still hurt they can't afford to have him get racked while trying to extend plays. We saw Kyle jump on him about that.

I noticed last game Brady pointed out he had Robinson deep and either didn't see it or simply chose not to take it, and said Mac hasn't really threated deep the last few games. The replay showed Brady wasn't lying. This is why I called Mac a better Jimmy G, but... over the 3 years playing we've seen Purdy become more hesitant to go deep as well so I wonder if its a system thing/o-line thing etc?

I can't recall the last time a deep threat panned out for this regime? Is Cowing still hurt? Will he ever be a thing? He looked so fast early on, but has never stayed healthy.