QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I mean Purdy showed he couldn't get it done without studs everywhere last year so I don't know It wouldn't be as bad as it is of he wasn't a turnover machine now.

You think the defense or special teams had any part in him not getting it done? How many games did our defense fail to close out last year? We have to stop overreacting to things and ignore how those games actually played out.

And btw...CMC is a pretty important piece of the offense who wasn't available last year and when he was he clearly wasn't 100%.

Mac Jones played his game yesterday and thankfully the playcalling and the receivers came through. It was incredibly impressive and I don't want to downplay that. But this is not an apples to apples comparison.

All that is great. The main thing that determines wins and losses is Turnovers and since Purdy started doing that at a high level the L's have been raking up.

So far Mac has kept the ball out of harms way without a running game and is 3-0 with 1 int

Originally posted by captveg:
What disappoints me about 49er fans is how much they are SALIVATING about Brock struggling a bit. It's like it's super exciting and pleasurable to see him not be the guy. They can't just be satisfied that a young QB has had a great run followed by a little inconsistency. No, they have to kick him to the curb at the first sign of difficulty.

that is just this forum.....not 49er fans.

Originally posted by captveg:
This Purdy "made of glass" narrative is hilarious to me. He missed two games because of injury in 2022-2024.

Two.

He does need to take a little more of the gimme checkdowns than he's been taking lately. Ideally not to the degree that he abandons the taking a shot element that Jimmy G did after his knee injury.

He missed the last 2 last season and 3 so far this season. He was fortunate that his serious elbow injury happend at the end of the season so he didn't miss that entire year. That could well have happened in game one causaing him to lose the entire year. Injuries happen but he's had his share in the short time he's played.

Jones has played better than he has this season but there's no way he replaces Brock when he's healthy enough to return. Not when they owe him so much money.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by captveg:
What disappoints me about 49er fans is how much they are SALIVATING about Brock struggling a bit. It's like it's super exciting and pleasurable to see him not be the guy. They can't just be satisfied that a young QB has had a great run followed by a little inconsistency. No, they have to kick him to the curb at the first sign of difficulty.

that is just this forum.....not 49er fans.

Fans root for team success no matter who the player. Right now Mac is having success for the team and Brock has been a turnover machine with a bad record over the last year.

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I'm tired of people alluding to Purdy and his injuries when he plays poorly. Stop babying him. Same thing was said when he played poorly against the Vikings and threw like 3 int's. The truth is Purdy is a gunslinger and often times plays reckless. Several of his int's have been in double or even triple coverage. And he has done that in the past too. That's who he is. He thinks he's Favre without Favre's arm.

Purdy is still QB1 for me but he needs to get back to doing what works. We beat the Rams last night with the JV squad because Mac took what the D gave him. Quick reads, short throws, sprinkled in a few nice passes and kept the chains moving. That's what Purdy needs to get back to. But instead he constantly is looking down the field for the big time throw.

I guarantee you we don't win that game last night if Purdy was playing. When the game is on the line, Purdy wants to hit the big play every play and that leads to his turnovers whether it be bad int's or holds on to the ball for too long in the pocket and gets strip sacked. Mac on the other hand makes quick reads and moves the chains. Notice how good our O Line looked pass blocking last night. Mac got sacked once I believe against this vaunted Rams D Line. If Purdy was in, best believe Rams would have gotten home more frequently on him because of his propensity to extend plays for the big play. Mac knows he isn't quick or fast so he relies on his arm to get the ball out quick and avoid sacks.

Whether you're tired of it or not or think it's babying him it's incredibly clear an injury impacted his performance.

All you have to do is go and rewatch his accuracy in the Seattle game - arguably our toughest opponent on defense this season. There is a clear night and day difference in accuracy. You have Steve Young talking about how impactful the toe injury to a QB throwing the ball and we just want to brush it off as excuses and babying the guy? That's fine, you're welcome to have the takes that you do but I think it's kind of ignorant to do that given all the evidence.

As for what would've happened last night if Purdy played...we don't know. I do know that given who was out there Mac was the best guy for the job. He does get the ball out faster and he has a track record with Bourne. However that's also Jimmy G's thing and people constantly talked about how he held the offense back.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
I'm tired of people alluding to Purdy and his injuries when he plays poorly. Stop babying him. Same thing was said when he played poorly against the Vikings and threw like 3 int's. The truth is Purdy is a gunslinger and often times plays reckless. Several of his int's have been in double or even triple coverage. And he has done that in the past too. That's who he is. He thinks he's Favre without Favre's arm.

Purdy is still QB1 for me but he needs to get back to doing what works. We beat the Rams last night with the JV squad because Mac took what the D gave him. Quick reads, short throws, sprinkled in a few nice passes and kept the chains moving. That's what Purdy needs to get back to. But instead he constantly is looking down the field for the big time throw.

I guarantee you we don't win that game last night if Purdy was playing. When the game is on the line, Purdy wants to hit the big play every play and that leads to his turnovers whether it be bad int's or holds on to the ball for too long in the pocket and gets strip sacked. Mac on the other hand makes quick reads and moves the chains. Notice how good our O Line looked pass blocking last night. Mac got sacked once I believe against this vaunted Rams D Line. If Purdy was in, best believe Rams would have gotten home more frequently on him because of his propensity to extend plays for the big play. Mac knows he isn't quick or fast so he relies on his arm to get the ball out quick and avoid sacks.

Whether you're tired of it or not or think it's babying him it's incredibly clear an injury impacted his performance.

All you have to do is go and rewatch his accuracy in the Seattle game - arguably our toughest opponent on defense this season. There is a clear night and day difference in accuracy. You have Steve Young talking about how impactful the toe injury to a QB throwing the ball and we just want to brush it off as excuses and babying the guy? That's fine, you're welcome to have the takes that you do but I think it's kind of ignorant to do that given all the evidence.

As for what would've happened last night if Purdy played...we don't know. I do know that given who was out there Mac was the best guy for the job. He does get the ball out faster and he has a track record with Bourne. However that's also Jimmy G's thing and people constantly talked about how he held the offense back.

Not sure a healthy Brock would have won the game. We all saw how he struggled last season when his best weapon s were all outandhe was healthy. My concern is that he needs a complete team around him to allow his style of play to be successful.

Super concerned about this big contract we gave Purdy this summer, who looks pedestrian, at best, over the last 12+ games or so. His decision making, throwing off his back foot, arm strength and accuracy are all reasons for concern.

Dear Brock, it's time for you to prove to us you were worth this contract. We need to see more moxie from you and much better overall play. We need a winner we to lead this team. Mac has played with great heart and grit and shown great leadership in your absence. It's now time for you to step-up and do what garnered your huge contract.

Signed,
49er fans

You MFers are insufferable.

Originally posted by aarchambo:
Super concerned about this big contract we gave Purdy this summer, who looks pedestrian, at best, over the last 12+ games or so. His decision making, throwing off his back foot, arm strength and accuracy are all reasons for concern.

Dear Brock, it's time for you to prove to us you were worth this contract. We need to see more moxie from you and much better overall play. We need a winner we to lead this team. Mac has played with great heart and grit and shown great leadership in your absence. It's now time for you to step-up and do what garnered your huge contract.

Signed,
49er fans

Yeah, you don't speak for me/all 49ers fans.

Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:
You MFers are insufferable.

The Purdy hate is completely ignorant and stupid.

Mac wins us games till Purdy is healthy, then Purdy kicks ass in the playoffs as usual and then we hold up the Lombardi in SC

This is the way

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by captveg:
What disappoints me about 49er fans is how much they are SALIVATING about Brock struggling a bit. It's like it's super exciting and pleasurable to see him not be the guy. They can't just be satisfied that a young QB has had a great run followed by a little inconsistency. No, they have to kick him to the curb at the first sign of difficulty.

that is just this forum.....not 49er fans.

Fans root for team success no matter who the player. Right now Mac is having success for the team and Brock has been a turnover machine with a bad record over the last year.

Who's salivating over Brock struggling anyway? I think fans have some criticisms at this point and rightfully so. I don't think anyone overall wants him to fail for some gotcha moment, that would be petty and pointless given we all want the team to do well and he's the guy who just got paid.

For me the way Mac played last night just reinforces my points about Brock (over the past couple pages). Take whats there, get rid of the ball especially on those early downs for positive yardage. You don't need to play hero ball all game.

playing on time and in rhythm. That's where he's at his best, he's not Josh Allen or Jackson who spend most of their snaps extending plays and playing out of structure. He's just gotta be smarter about all of it.

Originally posted by captveg:
Mac doesnt get the win if Collins doesn't cause and recover the fumble.

It's a team sport.

You expect these ppl to look at the bigger picture?

Some rumors out on social media that Brock might need IR. Didn't travel with the team so his injury might be a lot worse than what's being reported.

Originally posted by captveg:
Might as well retire now, Brock. You went from miracle story to pathetic rich arrogant loser overnight, and 49er fans will never embrace you again.

Pound sand, you're trash. Your story will be told as the worst QB in 49er history. Mac Jones wouldn't have lost a single game in 2022-2024 and we'd be 3-time defending champions if it wasn't for you taking his rightful role as greatest 49er QB of all time these last few years. You should rip up that contract as a matter of Christian decency and take your wife and kid back to Arizona and become a home depot employee.

Good lord dude, take a breath.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
I mean Purdy showed he couldn't get it done without studs everywhere last year so I don't know It wouldn't be as bad as it is of he wasn't a turnover machine now.

You think the defense or special teams had any part in him not getting it done? How many games did our defense fail to close out last year? We have to stop overreacting to things and ignore how those games actually played out.

And btw...CMC is a pretty important piece of the offense who wasn't available last year and when he was he clearly wasn't 100%.

Mac Jones played his game yesterday and thankfully the playcalling and the receivers came through. It was incredibly impressive and I don't want to downplay that. But this is not an apples to apples comparison.

All that is great. The main thing that determines wins and losses is Turnovers and since Purdy started doing that at a high level the L's have been raking up.

So far Mac has kept the ball out of harms way without a running game and is 3-0 with 1 int

I agree. Turnovers don't help win games and Mac has done a really good job avoiding a lot of turnovers. But let's be real here, it hasn't been all rainbows and sunshine. And I hate doing this because I was really impressed by what Mac did last night so I don't want it to come off like I'm knocking the guy but let's look at each game

Saints - not a very good defense this year. Best game from Mac in terms of overall numbers. 279 yards 3 TD 0 INT...2 fumbles, one we managed to recover. The other was really bad in terms of pocket awareness from Mac. It allowed the Saints to get back into that game as they scored on that drive. Defense ends up forcing a fumble from the Saints as they were driving with a chance to win the game.

Cardinals - bad pick deep in Arizona territory with the game tied. Defense bails out the offense getting a stop. We get F'd by the holding call on Puni after they pin us back deep - defense gets another stop. Mac is able to drive us down the field to get the game winner.

Rams - Clean game all around from Mac. I don't remember him putting the ball in any real danger. Maybe a couple of throws to the flat but it's stuff every QBs sees.

When you compare to Brock's games this year are they THAT different? Against Seattle Brock got it done when his defense got the ball back. Against the Jags the defense failed to get the ball back like they did vs Arizona.

No matter how you slice it it's way too early to make claims that Mac is better for this team than Purdy right now. Not with all the games Purdy has played here. I hope Mac keeps balling but he has not faced a lot of pressure in his games. You can talk about Mac avoiding any pressure getting the ball out quick but like I said we had that with Jimmy G too. Eventually you meet a team where the coverage is too good and the rush is getting there and you can't dink and dunk.

But I hope we don't meet that team any time soon, if ever this season cuz we need Mac to keep balling.